Roe v Wade struck down

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good. This will mobilize the masses.

No it won’t. People are apathetic about anything that won’t affect them personally.

Oh hell no, even Republican women are fired up. All republican women were not anti abortion. But I don't know what to do personally. Write congress? March? I never see any of those effect change.

No.

Start a legal campaign using solid reasoning.

Civil rights.

Equal protection.

These will prevail.

Roe was a weak case, which made it vulnerable.

Unfortunately, too many of us took it for granted. And we believed Bratty Would-Be-Rapist Kavanaugh and Amy Boob Job when they said it was settled law.

Get a decision that won't fail. It's possible if you want it. The law is on our side.

Demand Congress end the filibuster and codify Roe v Wade into law now. Dems control the House and the Senate and the President. Demand they do this now. Do not let Congress abrogate their responsibility to the people.

And then it can be codified out of the law by Congress at any time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Good. This will mobilize the masses.

No it won’t. People are apathetic about anything that won’t affect them personally.

Oh hell no, even Republican women are fired up. All republican women were not anti abortion. But I don't know what to do personally. Write congress? March? I never see any of those effect change.

No.

Start a legal campaign using solid reasoning.

Civil rights.

Equal protection.

These will prevail.

Roe was a weak case, which made it vulnerable.

Unfortunately, too many of us took it for granted. And we believed Bratty Would-Be-Rapist Kavanaugh and Amy Boob Job when they said it was settled law.

Get a decision that won't fail. It's possible if you want it. The law is on our side.

Demand Congress end the filibuster and codify Roe v Wade into law now. Dems control the House and the Senate and the President. Demand they do this now. Do not let Congress abrogate their responsibility to the people.

If we end the filibuster to do this, Congress can just change it back in January when they take control of both chambers. Even if that is not guranteed, are you willing to take that chance?

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Anonymous wrote: This is not something I thought I would ever actually see.

Kudos to the SCOTUS on this. Always should have been up to the states.

But why exactly? I'm just looking for the rationale why it should be a state decision and not a federal one. I can't have children anymore so just curious for the next generation.

There is no Constitutional right to an abortion. The Constitution enshrines a very small number of fundamental enumerated and unenumerated rights. It doesn’t protect everything that’s good.

In the midst of a massive social and political fight over abortion, Roe and Casey created an obvious fiction: a Constitutional right to “privacy” that included a right to abortion. This removed the issue from the usual political process, and did irreparable damage to the Court and the country. Suddenly the Court was a 100% political institution.

Today’s decision delivers the issue back to the political process, where it always should have been. I am basically pro choice. I also recognize that someone isn’t crazy, or a bigot or a woman hater, if they really feel like aborting a fetus (particularly one that is viable, can feel pain, etc.) is murder or something close to it. It’s a complicated issue. There is going to have to be a compromise that leaves both sides unhappy. And the debate will continue, people will make arguments, mobilize votes. That’s what’s supposed to happen on hotly contested policy questions in a democracy.

So basically the constitution didn't and still doesn't consider having an abortion ending a life? The constitution enshrines life as far as I know. Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness.

No idea what your post is even trying to articulate. But the Constitution is different from the Declaration of Independence.

This kind of demonstrates the point though. This illiterate PP is free to have an opinion about abortion rights. But trying to support that opinion in the context of Constitutional law is a joke. You people have no clue what you’re talking about.

True I don't know but I started my request asking why this was a state's rights verses federal decision so I pretty much said I was ignorant from the beginning and never gave an opinion. I'm not a supreme court judge nor do I really have an opinion on abortion either way. I think more children and women should be cared for, but I don't know the law what should be allowed. Pro lifers seem to think it's murder so they would want a federal ruling I'd think that it was taking away a life and not a state's rights. I don't really understand why it was federal for roe-v wade and now why states have the right to decide. I don't really understand the new or old law on this. I'm mainly curious why it was determined that this be a state decision rather than a federal one.

Roe held that there was a constitutional right to an abortion. Applied to the whole country/federal.

This SCOTUS is now saying there is no constitutional right to an abortion. This means that the states can legislate any way they want. So it’s now a state by state issue.

Thank you. And originally it was a constitutional right because?

Because all people are guaranteed liberty under the constitution, which can only be abridged by the state given compelling interests. The states now need no reason to infringe upon your rights. Great job conservatives.

The right to reproduce is the most basic right of all, next to the right to live. Everything else is meaningless. Abortion is baked into the human experience. It’s not surprising to me the Founders took it for granted. In fact, until very recently this obsession with fetuses was a fringe Catholic belief only.

And not even really a Catholic belief. When my grandmother had a miscarriage in 1931, did anyone act like it was a death of a child? No. When my mom had one in 1966, did anyone? No. It's only very recently that Catholics have gone in for those "angel in heaven" and prayer services for miscarried fetuses. All that stuff came *after* the massive anti-abortion movement, which was thoroughly astrotufed by Republicans who needed a rallying cry post-Nixon to rebuild the party.

You are wrong. Their catechism holds that abortion is a grave sin and murder. It’s not a fringe belief. Don’t let them off the hook for using their religion to endanger the lives of women, people who they believe are less equal than men.

Half of Catholics supported Roe in 1973 and half of them support it today.

Whatever. You are who you associate with. Don’t be shocked when you are called out for and criticized loudly because of your membership.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. This will mobilize the masses.

No it won’t. People are apathetic about anything that won’t affect them personally.

Oh hell no, even Republican women are fired up. All republican women were not anti abortion. But I don't know what to do personally. Write congress? March? I never see any of those effect change.

No.

Start a legal campaign using solid reasoning.

Civil rights.

Equal protection.

These will prevail.

Roe was a weak case, which made it vulnerable.

Unfortunately, too many of us took it for granted. And we believed Bratty Would-Be-Rapist Kavanaugh and Amy Boob Job when they said it was settled law.

Get a decision that won't fail. It's possible if you want it. The law is on our side.

Demand Congress end the filibuster and codify Roe v Wade into law now. Dems control the House and the Senate and the President. Demand they do this now. Do not let Congress abrogate their responsibility to the people.

Oh that is a bridge too far ask Manchin. The dems would need 75 senators to get anything passed. That will never happen. If you vote democrat you have no power because of the democrats elected officials are more scared of Fox News and republicans vs democrats voters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. This will mobilize the masses.

No it won’t. People are apathetic about anything that won’t affect them personally.

Oh hell no, even Republican women are fired up. All republican women were not anti abortion. But I don't know what to do personally. Write congress? March? I never see any of those effect change.

No.

Start a legal campaign using solid reasoning.

Civil rights.

Equal protection.

These will prevail.

Roe was a weak case, which made it vulnerable.

Unfortunately, too many of us took it for granted. And we believed Bratty Would-Be-Rapist Kavanaugh and Amy Boob Job when they said it was settled law.

Get a decision that won't fail. It's possible if you want it. The law is on our side.

Demand Congress end the filibuster and codify Roe v Wade into law now. Dems control the House and the Senate and the President. Demand they do this now. Do not let Congress abrogate their responsibility to the people.

If we end the filibuster to do this, Congress can just change it back in January when they take control of both chambers. Even if that is not guranteed, are you willing to take that chance?

Are you willing to stand on the sidelines while women die? Keep urging patience? Fight fire with fire. It’s people like you that are part of the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. This will mobilize the masses.

No it won’t. People are apathetic about anything that won’t affect them personally.

Oh hell no, even Republican women are fired up. All republican women were not anti abortion. But I don't know what to do personally. Write congress? March? I never see any of those effect change.

No.

Start a legal campaign using solid reasoning.

Civil rights.

Equal protection.

These will prevail.

Roe was a weak case, which made it vulnerable.

Unfortunately, too many of us took it for granted. And we believed Bratty Would-Be-Rapist Kavanaugh and Amy Boob Job when they said it was settled law.

Get a decision that won't fail. It's possible if you want it. The law is on our side.

Demand Congress end the filibuster and codify Roe v Wade into law now. Dems control the House and the Senate and the President. Demand they do this now. Do not let Congress abrogate their responsibility to the people.

If we end the filibuster to do this, Congress can just change it back in January when they take control of both chambers. Even if that is not guranteed, are you willing to take that chance?

Are you willing to stand on the sidelines while women die? Keep urging patience? Fight fire with fire. It’s people like you that are part of the problem.

People who can think of two steps instead of focusing on just one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good. This will mobilize the masses.

No it won’t. People are apathetic about anything that won’t affect them personally.

Oh hell no, even Republican women are fired up. All republican women were not anti abortion. But I don't know what to do personally. Write congress? March? I never see any of those effect change.

No.

Start a legal campaign using solid reasoning.

Civil rights.

Equal protection.

These will prevail.

Roe was a weak case, which made it vulnerable.

Unfortunately, too many of us took it for granted. And we believed Bratty Would-Be-Rapist Kavanaugh and Amy Boob Job when they said it was settled law.

Get a decision that won't fail. It's possible if you want it. The law is on our side.

Demand Congress end the filibuster and codify Roe v Wade into law now. Dems control the House and the Senate and the President. Demand they do this now. Do not let Congress abrogate their responsibility to the people.

If we end the filibuster to do this, Congress can just change it back in January when they take control of both chambers. Even if that is not guranteed, are you willing to take that chance?

I am. This is existential liberty at stake. We need to use the power we have to protect it. And then win elections to keep it.

DP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

I highly doubt that.

Four pregnancies here and they used nothing but the term fetus around week 30. After that, the term baby was used.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

You are only a woman, you don't know what you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Finally, after the suctioning of 63 million growing babies

STFU you total POS!!

those were fetuses, not "babies"

grow a brain and learn the difference

I've been pregnant 3 times. Not once did any of my doctors (male or female) refer to my pregnancy with the word fetus.

Mine did.

But sounds like your pregnancies were wanted. Sounds like you were willing to gestate them to term, to go through labor and delivery, to have your body changed, to accept the danger of pregnancy and birthing, and to take on the responsibility of raising children. Not all women accept those things, and no government should be able to force them to.

[Anonymous]

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That's not funny even provocative. Rapists don't want to father children.

[Anonymous]

Thanks a lot to all the indy wine drinking suburban moms who voted for this POS corporate raider: "Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin said he will seek legislation on abortion"

https://www.wtvr.com/news/virginia-politics/virginia-governor-glenn-youngkin-to-seek-abortion-legislation

The first clue should have been that his LT Governor is bat shit crazy and can't get through an interview about choice without becoming tearful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Corporations need to speak up and leave states that have banned abortions. Offering to pay for women to travel out of state doesn’t cut it. No reason for women’s privacy to be violated to uphold an extreme religious doctrine.

Agree. This is a major human rights issue. Out of these states. I’m ready to boycott the companies that don’t leave.

Yep, and finally the tiny humans are being represented. You live in a bubble. Even if most support early abortion, the number of people who are sooo pro-abort that they will boycott companies that don't leave states where abortion is legal is tiny.

It's not about abortion. Is about taking away women's right to bodily autonomy. This will not stop here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The next time a natural disaster hit a red state I will laugh and call it gods plan.

To be fair, abortion has killed more lives than ay naturel disaster

The term “lives” doesn’t have the meaning you seem to think.

Millions of IVF embryos have been discarded or destroyed worldwide. I don't hear the GOP advocating for those "lives".