Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

We understand it clearly. If you don’t understand why all of this is really shady and disgusting, that’s on you. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend like this is going to blow over or is no big deal but that’s not what’s happening here.

If you can’t see the significance of Ryan Reynolds funding planks production company, you are simply not very smart.

(1) There is zero evidence RR is funding Plank's production company. It hasn't produced anything. Is it "funded" at all? People start companies all the time that do nothing.

(2) Lively and Plank were friends BEFORE Lively was cast in IEWU and there is some indication that Plank has something to do with her being cast. So if there is some connection between Plank's production company and Reynolds, it's not a sign of bribery but a sign that people who have been friends since before all this happened continued to be friends after it happened.

Planks production company shares the same address as Ryan Reynolds home in New York. Ryan’s longtime business partner is Rick Binder, who is associated with the company. It is clearly a Ryan Reynolds production. Those are the facts and there’s no disputing them. I don’t know what you’re talking about with zero evidence but right now you’re just spewing words and it’s making you look like a bot.

Yeah, I have already read this on here. Where is the evidence that Reynolds gave Plank money for the production company (which, again, has not produced anything and therefore likely currently has no money)? It looks very likely Blake and Ryan set Plank up with Rick Binder, I agree. I just don't find this scandalous. Plank has been friends with Lively for years -- both Plank and Lively have referenced Plank having some role in getting Lively cast in IEWU. So it's not weird or scandalous that Plank's friend introduced her to a close family friend and investor/business person in Binder. This seems like a normal thing for a friend to do and does not indicate to me that Plank (who has yet to speak publicly about any of this) is being paid to smear Baldoni (which, again, she has not done).

Just because I feel like people are going to gloss over this on their way to some insane conspiracy theory:

Here is an Instagram post by Plank from March of 2022, before Lively was cast in IEWU, where Plank praises Lively for her and Ryan's initiative on The Adam Project (a movie Reynolds starred in) to provide training and opportunities for BIPOC and other marginalized people in the film industry.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cak2Ov4pczn/?hl=en&img_index=5

So Plank has known Lively and Reynolds since at least 2022, pre-IEWU, and appears to have worked with them or known people who worked with them on this initiative (the Group Effort Initiative). Which makes it not at all weird that Ryan would have introduced Plank to Rick Binder, or that Plank might work with Binder and Reynolds to set up her own production company when the Man Enough podcast fell apart. None of this is evidence of bribery -- it's evidence of functional professional and social relationships working as they often do.

But the podcast did not fall apart yet. Can you see the holes in your theory? The company was set up on November 22. Liz plan was shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU, to see that Justin had been a sexual harasser on December 21 when the New York Times article came out. She quit at that time and not a minute before. Do you see now why this looks like things were being cooked up for a long time and she knew exactly what she was doing. If she actually thought he was a harasser, she would have quit the podcast before. She was clearly willing to make feminist content with him all through 2023 and 2024, even though she was supposedly friends with Blake who was being harassed by him? How does that make any sense?

It just looks weird if she was such good friends with Blake, she didn’t know any of the harassment? Or is it possible the harassment didn’t happen and they decided to cook up this lawsuit to get control of the movie. Yep that’s it.

Ok, so many things here.

First, yeah, the podcast has fallen apart. Baldoni appeared in almost no episodes in 2024 (I think one or two episodes in January), so it was just Liz and Jamey in those episodes. The last episode they made was in October of last year, a full two months before Lively's lawsuit. It was Jamey and Liz interviewing FKA Twigs. Then nothing. Then the lawsuit came out and Liz formally quit. That podcast is over.

But when Liz quit, she didn't say "oh my gosh I had no idea." She said: "I will have more to share soon as I continue to process everything that has happened." Vague but not a statement of shock.

In Lively's amended complaint, she references texting with a "mutual friend" of hers and Baldoni's during the production of IEWU. Many people (including me) believe this person to be Liz Plank. Here is what Lively's complaint says about these texts:

On May 24, 2023, Ms. Lively confided in a text to a woman who was a mutual friend of Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath: “I was gonna invite you to set tomorrow. These people. Whoa . . . It’s like HR nuts today. The both of them. I wasn’t expecting that turn. I mean it’s been present but today I came home and cried.” Further in the exchange, Ms. Lively describes Mr. Baldoni and Mr. Heath as “creeps . . . . Like keep your hormones to yourselves. This is not mine. I don’t want it. I don’t want you [sic] gaze or words or tongue or videos of your naked wife. Yeah. It’s shocking. Clowns.”

Please note this is just a week or two into production of the movie.

Liz knew what was going on, from early in the process.

I don’t understand why if Blake started complaining about being sexually harassed to her friendl Liz in 2023 Liz did another 18 months worth of podcast. Your timeline is not adding up and why would she wait till December 21 to quit? Seem like either, she was enjoying the perks of doing the podcast and making money with him until she couldn’t anymore? It just doesn’t look good for Liz. It makes her seem like she’s an opportunist. She was happy to work with Baldoni for a while until it was more lucrative to work with Ryan, who was promising her a production company and access to an influential business partner, who never would’ve looked twice at her. Liz on her own is just not enough to get her own production company. She has like 600,000 followers on Instagram. I follow Amazon shopping influencers and mommy fitness influencers with more followers than that. It’s literally nothing.

I think the answer is in that post upthread about how this is really just a workplace dispute with like a toxic environment and it wasn't really sexual harassment per se but also Baldoni and Heath didn't behave great and may still be liable (especially for the alleged retaliation).

If you've ever worked in a toxic workplace, this will make more sense to you. It's normal for these kinds of conflicts to kind of fester below the surface for long periods of time as people are unsure if they are going to go away or blow up. It's not surprising to me that people were putting on a positive face for a long time even as they were aware that there was this major conflict between Baldoni and Lively and even that some of Lively's accusations were fairly serious. We're all looking at it with 20/20 hindsight knowing it blows up into competing law suits and massive PR coverage, but I'm sure pretty much everyone -- Liz, the rest of the cast, even Lively and Baldoni -- believed this would ultimately be resolved behind the scenes or that it would blow over as the promotion of the movie wrapped up and everyone moved on to other projects.

The trigger for things blowing up was Jennifer Abel leaving Jonesworks. Had that not happened, or had she not tried to take Wayfarer/Baldoni with her, then Jones would never had seen the text, never shown them to Leslie Sloane, Lively would never have subpoenaed them via the Vanzan lawsuit, etc. You could also say that Baldoni hiring Nathan and involving Jed Wallace was a trigger. At the time this probably felt necessary to Baldoni but in retrospect it looks like an escalation to me, when you consider that they were incredibly close to just being done with each other at that point -- the divided premiere was weird but most people didn't care that much and I think it would have blown over within a month or so. People move on.

Basically, if Nathan/Wallace didn't get involved, or if Jennifer Abel hadn't screwed up with Jones (and hadn't been stupid enough to put those texts on a Jonesworks phone), I think it's possible that everyone would have moved on with their lives after that. The coincidence of Lively having a big product release coming out at the same time as the movie, which was also potentially impacted by all the bad press she was getting, also helped give rise to the lawsuit because it created possible damages that otherwise would not have existed.

I think it's just a big cluster**** and not some multi-year plot. Everyone involved screwed up to some degree or another. Jennifer Abel truly is the lynchpin of stupidity but I think a lot of the other secondary players -- Plank, Slate, Sklenar, Ferrer -- were forced into having to choose a side and chose the side they liked more/believed more. I don't think people have been bribed. But it's also a reality that Lively/Reynolds are more famous and connected and so I could also see them getting more benefit of the doubt. That's just the way the world works. I've seen stuff like this unfold many times in my life, albeit on a much smaller scale.

I agree with this. I think Blake and Ryan are probably a fun hang, and as a bonus they can probably help your career. Whereas Justin might come off as this preachy religious guy who is overly sincere and even fake. The actors probably sided with who they clicked better with—and in this case it was Blake and Ryan. Meanwhile Blake is known to treat her “underlings” poorly, so they probably are not siding with her.

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Nah. It was never sexual harassment. Many of us argued this over 300 pages ago. I continued to point this out recently.

Lively and her supporters have found “toxic workforce environment” that she “supposedly” misread as sexual harassment. That’s how she’s trying to exit the lawsuit, and hopes that the CA bill will be her salvo to exit, should that MTD get stayed.

Her supporters here have such a different tune now. No astroturfing, no SH. Just a little misunderstanding. Let’s call it quits and you pay my fees.

Nah.

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

We understand it clearly. If you don’t understand why all of this is really shady and disgusting, that’s on you. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend like this is going to blow over or is no big deal but that’s not what’s happening here.

If you can’t see the significance of Ryan Reynolds funding planks production company, you are simply not very smart.

(1) There is zero evidence RR is funding Plank's production company. It hasn't produced anything. Is it "funded" at all? People start companies all the time that do nothing.

(2) Lively and Plank were friends BEFORE Lively was cast in IEWU and there is some indication that Plank has something to do with her being cast. So if there is some connection between Plank's production company and Reynolds, it's not a sign of bribery but a sign that people who have been friends since before all this happened continued to be friends after it happened.

Planks production company shares the same address as Ryan Reynolds home in New York. Ryan’s longtime business partner is Rick Binder, who is associated with the company. It is clearly a Ryan Reynolds production. Those are the facts and there’s no disputing them. I don’t know what you’re talking about with zero evidence but right now you’re just spewing words and it’s making you look like a bot.

Yeah, I have already read this on here. Where is the evidence that Reynolds gave Plank money for the production company (which, again, has not produced anything and therefore likely currently has no money)? It looks very likely Blake and Ryan set Plank up with Rick Binder, I agree. I just don't find this scandalous. Plank has been friends with Lively for years -- both Plank and Lively have referenced Plank having some role in getting Lively cast in IEWU. So it's not weird or scandalous that Plank's friend introduced her to a close family friend and investor/business person in Binder. This seems like a normal thing for a friend to do and does not indicate to me that Plank (who has yet to speak publicly about any of this) is being paid to smear Baldoni (which, again, she has not done).

The poor lively defenders have to really twist themselves into circles. One of the big problems with this case is that Justin Baldoni age 41 has no history of sexual harassment or inappropriate behavior in the workplace. Sexual harassment almost always have a pattern of behavior that starts young. For him to all of a sudden, just decide to pick on Blake, an incredibly powerful female celebrity who had as much power than him onset is not credible.

Add onto the fact that Liz blank would have never picked up on this and would’ve encouraged her friend to work with him? All of a sudden he stumbled on the set of it ends with us, and he simply can’t help himself? It doesn’t add up.

But regardless of that-what you are saying makes no sense. It takes money to establish a production company. It takes personnel to be attached to it, influential personnel, like Rick Binder, who is well known in the industry. The timing is very suspicious since it was just a couple weeks before they published the article and Liz quit. It is incredibly problematic and looks incredibly bad for Liz which is why her socials are being taken over by pissed off people.

Blake and Ryan bribed Liz plank by setting up a production company for her. Everyone can see it, it is as clear as day.

No it doesn't. Starting a production company takes hardly any money -- you register a business, give it a name. You don't have to hire personnel. I could register a production company tomorrow.

I am sure Binder's involvement is because Ryan and Plank knows each other but that's not shady. If you were starting a production company and knew Ryan Reynolds (which Plank does, and has since before IEWU was even made), you might also ask to work with Binder. This is how people do business, it is normal.

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

We understand it clearly. If you don’t understand why all of this is really shady and disgusting, that’s on you. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend like this is going to blow over or is no big deal but that’s not what’s happening here.

If you can’t see the significance of Ryan Reynolds funding planks production company, you are simply not very smart.

(1) There is zero evidence RR is funding Plank's production company. It hasn't produced anything. Is it "funded" at all? People start companies all the time that do nothing.

(2) Lively and Plank were friends BEFORE Lively was cast in IEWU and there is some indication that Plank has something to do with her being cast. So if there is some connection between Plank's production company and Reynolds, it's not a sign of bribery but a sign that people who have been friends since before all this happened continued to be friends after it happened.

Planks production company shares the same address as Ryan Reynolds home in New York. Ryan’s longtime business partner is Rick Binder, who is associated with the company. It is clearly a Ryan Reynolds production. Those are the facts and there’s no disputing them. I don’t know what you’re talking about with zero evidence but right now you’re just spewing words and it’s making you look like a bot.

Yeah, I have already read this on here. Where is the evidence that Reynolds gave Plank money for the production company (which, again, has not produced anything and therefore likely currently has no money)? It looks very likely Blake and Ryan set Plank up with Rick Binder, I agree. I just don't find this scandalous. Plank has been friends with Lively for years -- both Plank and Lively have referenced Plank having some role in getting Lively cast in IEWU. So it's not weird or scandalous that Plank's friend introduced her to a close family friend and investor/business person in Binder. This seems like a normal thing for a friend to do and does not indicate to me that Plank (who has yet to speak publicly about any of this) is being paid to smear Baldoni (which, again, she has not done).

Just because I feel like people are going to gloss over this on their way to some insane conspiracy theory:

Here is an Instagram post by Plank from March of 2022, before Lively was cast in IEWU, where Plank praises Lively for her and Ryan's initiative on The Adam Project (a movie Reynolds starred in) to provide training and opportunities for BIPOC and other marginalized people in the film industry.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cak2Ov4pczn/?hl=en&img_index=5

So Plank has known Lively and Reynolds since at least 2022, pre-IEWU, and appears to have worked with them or known people who worked with them on this initiative (the Group Effort Initiative). Which makes it not at all weird that Ryan would have introduced Plank to Rick Binder, or that Plank might work with Binder and Reynolds to set up her own production company when the Man Enough podcast fell apart. None of this is evidence of bribery -- it's evidence of functional professional and social relationships working as they often do.

Stop gaslighting.

Ugh, I feel like I am being gaslit.

If you think Ryan Reynolds bribed Liz Plank to take Lively's side in all this, how do you explain Plank clearly knowing Lively well before IEWU was even made, attending an industry event with her and knowing a lot about a charitable effort by Lively and Reynolds, indicating stronger ties? Doesn't it seem more likely that Plank, who has known Lively/Reynolds for years, simply got an intro to Reynold's business partner when Plank expressed an interest in setting up a production company, after leaving the Man Enough podcast?

Like where is the evidence of a bribe?

Poor Blake bot can’t accept the obvious corruption of her heroine. Timing is everything, Plank “just happened” to go into business with Blake and Ryan in November 2024.

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As more and more details come out about Blake/Ryan conspiracy against Baldoni over the next few weeks/month, we are going to see increasingly irrational posts by the diehard Blake supporters. Already starting. . . .

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

We understand it clearly. If you don’t understand why all of this is really shady and disgusting, that’s on you. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend like this is going to blow over or is no big deal but that’s not what’s happening here.

If you can’t see the significance of Ryan Reynolds funding planks production company, you are simply not very smart.

(1) There is zero evidence RR is funding Plank's production company. It hasn't produced anything. Is it "funded" at all? People start companies all the time that do nothing.

(2) Lively and Plank were friends BEFORE Lively was cast in IEWU and there is some indication that Plank has something to do with her being cast. So if there is some connection between Plank's production company and Reynolds, it's not a sign of bribery but a sign that people who have been friends since before all this happened continued to be friends after it happened.

Planks production company shares the same address as Ryan Reynolds home in New York. Ryan’s longtime business partner is Rick Binder, who is associated with the company. It is clearly a Ryan Reynolds production. Those are the facts and there’s no disputing them. I don’t know what you’re talking about with zero evidence but right now you’re just spewing words and it’s making you look like a bot.

Yeah, I have already read this on here. Where is the evidence that Reynolds gave Plank money for the production company (which, again, has not produced anything and therefore likely currently has no money)? It looks very likely Blake and Ryan set Plank up with Rick Binder, I agree. I just don't find this scandalous. Plank has been friends with Lively for years -- both Plank and Lively have referenced Plank having some role in getting Lively cast in IEWU. So it's not weird or scandalous that Plank's friend introduced her to a close family friend and investor/business person in Binder. This seems like a normal thing for a friend to do and does not indicate to me that Plank (who has yet to speak publicly about any of this) is being paid to smear Baldoni (which, again, she has not done).

Just because I feel like people are going to gloss over this on their way to some insane conspiracy theory:

Here is an Instagram post by Plank from March of 2022, before Lively was cast in IEWU, where Plank praises Lively for her and Ryan's initiative on The Adam Project (a movie Reynolds starred in) to provide training and opportunities for BIPOC and other marginalized people in the film industry.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cak2Ov4pczn/?hl=en&img_index=5

So Plank has known Lively and Reynolds since at least 2022, pre-IEWU, and appears to have worked with them or known people who worked with them on this initiative (the Group Effort Initiative). Which makes it not at all weird that Ryan would have introduced Plank to Rick Binder, or that Plank might work with Binder and Reynolds to set up her own production company when the Man Enough podcast fell apart. None of this is evidence of bribery -- it's evidence of functional professional and social relationships working as they often do.

Stop gaslighting.

Ugh, I feel like I am being gaslit.

If you think Ryan Reynolds bribed Liz Plank to take Lively's side in all this, how do you explain Plank clearly knowing Lively well before IEWU was even made, attending an industry event with her and knowing a lot about a charitable effort by Lively and Reynolds, indicating stronger ties? Doesn't it seem more likely that Plank, who has known Lively/Reynolds for years, simply got an intro to Reynold's business partner when Plank expressed an interest in setting up a production company, after leaving the Man Enough podcast?

Like where is the evidence of a bribe?

Poor Blake bot can’t accept the obvious corruption of her heroine. Timing is everything, Plank “just happened” to go into business with Blake and Ryan in November 2024.

Plank has known Ryan and Blake for years. Since before IEWU. Plank is likely the reason Baldoni/Wayfarer got interested in Blake for IEWU. It is totally normal that Plank would be working with Ryan's business partner.

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

We understand it clearly. If you don’t understand why all of this is really shady and disgusting, that’s on you. You can bury your head in the sand and pretend like this is going to blow over or is no big deal but that’s not what’s happening here.

If you can’t see the significance of Ryan Reynolds funding planks production company, you are simply not very smart.

(1) There is zero evidence RR is funding Plank's production company. It hasn't produced anything. Is it "funded" at all? People start companies all the time that do nothing.

(2) Lively and Plank were friends BEFORE Lively was cast in IEWU and there is some indication that Plank has something to do with her being cast. So if there is some connection between Plank's production company and Reynolds, it's not a sign of bribery but a sign that people who have been friends since before all this happened continued to be friends after it happened.

Planks production company shares the same address as Ryan Reynolds home in New York. Ryan’s longtime business partner is Rick Binder, who is associated with the company. It is clearly a Ryan Reynolds production. Those are the facts and there’s no disputing them. I don’t know what you’re talking about with zero evidence but right now you’re just spewing words and it’s making you look like a bot.

Yeah, I have already read this on here. Where is the evidence that Reynolds gave Plank money for the production company (which, again, has not produced anything and therefore likely currently has no money)? It looks very likely Blake and Ryan set Plank up with Rick Binder, I agree. I just don't find this scandalous. Plank has been friends with Lively for years -- both Plank and Lively have referenced Plank having some role in getting Lively cast in IEWU. So it's not weird or scandalous that Plank's friend introduced her to a close family friend and investor/business person in Binder. This seems like a normal thing for a friend to do and does not indicate to me that Plank (who has yet to speak publicly about any of this) is being paid to smear Baldoni (which, again, she has not done).

Just because I feel like people are going to gloss over this on their way to some insane conspiracy theory:

Here is an Instagram post by Plank from March of 2022, before Lively was cast in IEWU, where Plank praises Lively for her and Ryan's initiative on The Adam Project (a movie Reynolds starred in) to provide training and opportunities for BIPOC and other marginalized people in the film industry.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cak2Ov4pczn/?hl=en&img_index=5

So Plank has known Lively and Reynolds since at least 2022, pre-IEWU, and appears to have worked with them or known people who worked with them on this initiative (the Group Effort Initiative). Which makes it not at all weird that Ryan would have introduced Plank to Rick Binder, or that Plank might work with Binder and Reynolds to set up her own production company when the Man Enough podcast fell apart. None of this is evidence of bribery -- it's evidence of functional professional and social relationships working as they often do.

Stop gaslighting.

Ugh, I feel like I am being gaslit.

If you think Ryan Reynolds bribed Liz Plank to take Lively's side in all this, how do you explain Plank clearly knowing Lively well before IEWU was even made, attending an industry event with her and knowing a lot about a charitable effort by Lively and Reynolds, indicating stronger ties? Doesn't it seem more likely that Plank, who has known Lively/Reynolds for years, simply got an intro to Reynold's business partner when Plank expressed an interest in setting up a production company, after leaving the Man Enough podcast?

Like where is the evidence of a bribe?

Poor Blake bot can’t accept the obvious corruption of her heroine. Timing is everything, Plank “just happened” to go into business with Blake and Ryan in November 2024.

Plank has known Ryan and Blake for years. Since before IEWU. Plank is likely the reason Baldoni/Wayfarer got interested in Blake for IEWU. It is totally normal that Plank would be working with Ryan's business partner.

And using Ryan’s business address, but all of this only happening only weeks before The NY Times article is published. Sorry, it’s all obviously connected. Drip, drip, drip, can’t wait to see what comes out next . .

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I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

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Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

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Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

That's fair enough, but I think a better strategy if they were colluding would have been to coordinate and have Plank drop the podcast before the NYT article, so people could speculate something was happening, and then have the NYT article seemingly "confirm" that he did something bad. To me the way it played it out doesn't indicate what's being argued here (the pro-Blake side being that Liz simply believed Blake and the pro-Justin side being that Liz was paid off - in either case, I think she would have dropped her association prior to the NYT article dropping).

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Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

How do you explain the fact the Plank's relationship with Ryan predates her even being on the podcast with Baldoni? Plank started co-hosting IEWU in 2021 but it appears she and Ryan knew each other before that and he was praising her book on social media back in 2019.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

That's fair enough, but I think a better strategy if they were colluding would have been to coordinate and have Plank drop the podcast before the NYT article, so people could speculate something was happening, and then have the NYT article seemingly "confirm" that he did something bad. To me the way it played it out doesn't indicate what's being argued here (the pro-Blake side being that Liz simply believed Blake and the pro-Justin side being that Liz was paid off - in either case, I think she would have dropped her association prior to the NYT article dropping).

If she had done that, it wouldn’t gave been nearly as impactful. Quitting after the article implied she believed the accusations and was widely reported. None would have cared had she done it earlier. Any other rationalizations you’d like to offer?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

How do you explain the fact the Plank's relationship with Ryan predates her even being on the podcast with Baldoni? Plank started co-hosting IEWU in 2021 but it appears she and Ryan knew each other before that and he was praising her book on social media back in 2019.

It doesn’t need explanation. The only suspicious thing is that she went into business with him right before the NYTimes article came out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

How do you explain the fact the Plank's relationship with Ryan predates her even being on the podcast with Baldoni? Plank started co-hosting IEWU in 2021 but it appears she and Ryan knew each other before that and he was praising her book on social media back in 2019.

It doesn’t need explanation. The only suspicious thing is that she went into business with him right before the NYTimes article came out.

If they have known each other for years, what is suspicious about them going into business together, at any time? What does it tell you other than two people who know and like each other, have gone into business together?

Also, if Ryan was bribing Plank, what for? Plank has not publicly condemned Baldoni, has not said negative things about her experience working with him or Heath, and her statement that she was leaving the podcast was just sorrowful and fairly neutral. And again, Baldoni himself hadn't done an episode of the podcast in almost a year, and the episodes abruptly stopped in October with no explanation of when they would resume or why they stopped. So Ryan was bribing Plank to quit a podcast that appeared to have ceased production already? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know nothing about Liz Plank other than she did a podcast with Heath and Baldoni, but to me it seems most likely she dropped her association with them because of the NYT article. If you brand yourself a feminist, you simply must cancel anyone who has been accused of sexual harassment in a legal filing. It tells me nothing about whether she believes the allegations are true. Being accused is enough for people to drop you.

Sure, that’s what I thought too until I learned she formed a business with Ryan three weeks prior. Now, I think she was bought off by Ryan and Blake. It’s called critical thinking. Some of us change our opinions when new info becomes available.

How do you explain the fact the Plank's relationship with Ryan predates her even being on the podcast with Baldoni? Plank started co-hosting IEWU in 2021 but it appears she and Ryan knew each other before that and he was praising her book on social media back in 2019.

It doesn’t need explanation. The only suspicious thing is that she went into business with him right before the NYTimes article came out.

If they have known each other for years, what is suspicious about them going into business together, at any time? What does it tell you other than two people who know and like each other, have gone into business together?

Also, if Ryan was bribing Plank, what for? Plank has not publicly condemned Baldoni, has not said negative things about her experience working with him or Heath, and her statement that she was leaving the podcast was just sorrowful and fairly neutral. And again, Baldoni himself hadn't done an episode of the podcast in almost a year, and the episodes abruptly stopped in October with no explanation of when they would resume or why they stopped. So Ryan was bribing Plank to quit a podcast that appeared to have ceased production already? That makes no sense.

If the podcast had ceased production, why did she announce she was quitting it? You are aware that happened and was widely reported, no?

The rest of your argument is nonsensical and not worthy of response but here it goes. The payoff (the production company) is noteworthy only because it occurred just before the desired act (the very public resignation from the podcast immediately after The NY Times article).