difference between ccrm, cornell and shady grove

[Anonymous]

After three failed ivf cycles with sg, was planning on doing a consult with ccrm or cornell. I am 41 so not sure what more cornell or ccrm can do for me. Why are their stats so much higher?

[Anonymous]

their labs are far superior to any lab in this area. CCRM also does a lot of advanced genetic testing on the embryos so they transfer the best embryos thereby increasing the chance of achieving a pregnancy/live birth.

[Anonymous]

Agree w/PP. It's about the labs. Don't forget to include St. Barnabus in NJ on your list as well (at one time considered the best in the country, don't know if they still are). I can recommend Drs. Cekleniak or Chen at St. B's though it is really about the amazing embryologist in their lab). CCRM is difficult because of flight requirements but they do telephone consults. I can confirm that both Cornell and St. B's will work with a local doctor here in DC for your monitoring bloodwork and ultrasounds. I used Dr. Sacks who is also friends with Zev Rosenwaks (is that his name?) who head(ed) Cornell's program.

Good luck.

[Anonymous]

I am 40 and had two failed IVF's (one chemical pregnancy) and a failed IUI. We are considering Cornell, but are wondering what they could do that would be different than what SG has done.

What do people mean when they say "their labs are better" at x than y? How can anything they do in the lab effect the quality of the eggs?

I have not had that many eggs get to the correct size by day three, so choosing the one winning egg from fifteen eggs total has not been the issue.

My research, so far, has not uncovered what Cornell might do differently, since the issue seems to be the age of my eggs. TIA.

[Anonymous]

Labs use different mediums to culture the eggs in. They have different processes and procedures. THere are so many things that could effect an embroyo such as temperature, light exposure, length of time in certain mediums. The lab is one of the most important things about the process. Not all labs are created equal. Also, Cornell uses something called "co-culture" . They take tissue from your uterues to grow the medium.

[Anonymous]

I cycled at CCRM. There is a laundry list of things they do differently, from diet recommendations to testing the blood flow in your uterine arteries to checking for sperm antibodies to have much more strict procedures for DH to submit his contribution. Essentially, if there are any studies or good anecdotal evidence that something might help, and wouldn't hurt, then they recommend it. DHEA, no caffeine or alcohol, more exercise restrictions, etc. They are have a cutting edge lab, as they are one of the top clinics in the world doing cutting edge research. The genetic testing they are doing on embryos also has increased their pregnancy rates. If you are a good responder, I would suggest considering them. (I am not, so their was little they could do with my one lonely egg, although they did make a beautiful embryo out of it.) Oh, and they are much nicer than SG, so it was actual pleasant to be there.

[Anonymous]

I reccommend NYU over Cornell or Shady Grove any day. Shady grove has good stats as they do not see any one who is challenging.