Melanie Meren's FB post about the calendar

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Anonymous wrote:Melanie Meren just posted this on Facebook:

The School Board has heard from many families regarding the lack of full, five-day school weeks this year and the significant burden this places on families who must navigate complex and often costly childcare arrangements. In the 2025-26 school year alone, partial weeks occurred more than half the time, functioning as an informal “childcare tax” that falls hardest on our hourly-wage and most vulnerable households.
To address these challenges, I am collaborating on a new draft policy to be circulated among my School Board colleagues that aims to consolidate overlapping directives into a single, unified framework. A primary goal is to prioritize five-day school weeks as the default standard to restore instructional continuity and provide families with stability they need.
Another goal is to clarify the Superintendent’s responsibilities in developing the student calendar while ensuring the School Board reviews and approves it as part of our annual work cycle.
My goal is to have the calendar beginning in SY 26-27 adjusted to increase the number of five-day school weeks.
I’ll keep the community updated as work proceeds.
Sincerely,
Melanie

So, reach out to your Board and have your opinions heard! Don't wait for some dumb and poorly designed survey to land in your spam folder.

It is clear from Meren’s post that she is concerned about the childcare costs to families. She does not cite academics as one of her concerns.

FCPS staff and leadership are all aware that the content in ES does not require a full five days. Parents should also be aware of this in order to be fully informed during any policy change discussions.

Then— crazy idea here— use the time to teach children more than the bare minimum required.

Or, end elementary school two weeks earlier than middle and high school so the kids can start summer (and summer plans which prioritize kids) sooner.

+1. Why is everyone afraid of their kids learning more than the bare minimum required for a test?

We aren’t. We just don’t need the childcare and can handle the 4 day weeks and random days off here and there. If that helps teachers, I’m all for it.

Teachers signed up for this job. Why do they need to only work 4 days a week? We don't need religious holidays. We don't need weeks off in the winter. We don't need 5 days off for Memorial Day.
Kids shouldn't be getting the bare minimum! You won't convince me otherwise.

And the turnover is higher than it's ever been because many are leaving what they "signed up for." The workload is crushing. If we don't find more time for them to get their work done during their contracted hours, turnover isn't going to get any better. Maybe a rotation of random subs in your child's class will convince you otherwise.

Not in FCPS.

And there’s plenty of time in contracted hours— snow days, federal holidays, etc.

🤣🤣 Tell us you are living in fantasy land without telling us. This is the most out-of-touch-with-reality statement I've seen in a while.

I disagree. I think the idea that a professional occupation in 2026 can operate without remote work in bad weather is what is out of touch— especially a profession which insisted for three years that they could deliver results online.

The way the labor market is right now does not favor entitlement from teachers and other stakeholders have had about enough.

No teacher insisted anything of the sort.

Neither did "a profession."

And anyway, how did you like that? You simultaneously imply that Covid instruction didn't deliver results and that online instruction on snow days will.

Well, I'm glad we can finally all agree that the education profession wasn't behind virtual schooling and that it was all the politicians.

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Well no. Teachers did not want to come back in person after being some of the first to be vaccinated (they got to cut the line). The teacher’s organizations, one being FEA, argued this point.

+1 and I did not hear teachers in Fairfax, refuting their collective bargaining group. So I’m afraid yes, it was “the profession.”

I remember when one of those group’s positions was no in person school until zero Covid cases. Can you imagine? The kids would still be at home now!

And yet five years later the people who insisted they can work from home…can’t work from home even on administrative tasks? Make it make sense.

If schools are officially closed they don’t have to. They may have children at home to care for.

Perhaps they do, but then they can’t complain about insufficient contract hours for planning— they will just need to find childcare.

This whole thread is packed with parents complaining about how when school is closed they need to find childcare, yet you’re now trying to make teachers pay for more childcare.

The irony…

People truly only care about the cost of childcare when it affect themselves.

You need to pay for more childcare? Absolutely not. Let’s revolt! How do we protest? Email our school board members Complain about the calendar!

But if your solution causes teachers to need to pay for more childcare? That’s totally fine.

Teachers are getting paid to work those days. So they should work— or if they have a childcare conflict use their paid leave. Their students parents aren’t being paid to have a day off, and many of those students parents will be expected to telework.

Unless the parents are an hourly wage employee, they too are being paid on their day off… let’s not act like a lot of parents around here don’t have salaries.

Many parents are hourly wage employees. Certainly many more parents than teachers.

And most parents aren’t given a day off for snow days— they are expected to work and find childcare OR use PTO. Exactly the rules which could apply to teachers going forward.

I disagree with the bolded part.

One of the perks of my job at my company is paid days off when the weather is bad, including when my kids have a snow day. I also have flexibility when my kids are ill. I probably make a little less at my company than I could if I worked for another company, doing a similar job, but I wouldn't have the same perks I do currently.

Teachers are the same. They know one of the perks of their job is possible snow days.

Not every job or company is the same. I have certain perks that others don't, just as teachers have certain perks that most do not. There isn't equality among professions or companies, and that's okay.

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Anonymous wrote:Melanie Meren just posted this on Facebook:

The School Board has heard from many families regarding the lack of full, five-day school weeks this year and the significant burden this places on families who must navigate complex and often costly childcare arrangements. In the 2025-26 school year alone, partial weeks occurred more than half the time, functioning as an informal “childcare tax” that falls hardest on our hourly-wage and most vulnerable households.
To address these challenges, I am collaborating on a new draft policy to be circulated among my School Board colleagues that aims to consolidate overlapping directives into a single, unified framework. A primary goal is to prioritize five-day school weeks as the default standard to restore instructional continuity and provide families with stability they need.
Another goal is to clarify the Superintendent’s responsibilities in developing the student calendar while ensuring the School Board reviews and approves it as part of our annual work cycle.
My goal is to have the calendar beginning in SY 26-27 adjusted to increase the number of five-day school weeks.
I’ll keep the community updated as work proceeds.
Sincerely,
Melanie

So, reach out to your Board and have your opinions heard! Don't wait for some dumb and poorly designed survey to land in your spam folder.

It is clear from Meren’s post that she is concerned about the childcare costs to families. She does not cite academics as one of her concerns.

FCPS staff and leadership are all aware that the content in ES does not require a full five days. Parents should also be aware of this in order to be fully informed during any policy change discussions.

Then— crazy idea here— use the time to teach children more than the bare minimum required.

Or, end elementary school two weeks earlier than middle and high school so the kids can start summer (and summer plans which prioritize kids) sooner.

+1. Why is everyone afraid of their kids learning more than the bare minimum required for a test?

We aren’t. We just don’t need the childcare and can handle the 4 day weeks and random days off here and there. If that helps teachers, I’m all for it.

Teachers signed up for this job. Why do they need to only work 4 days a week? We don't need religious holidays. We don't need weeks off in the winter. We don't need 5 days off for Memorial Day.
Kids shouldn't be getting the bare minimum! You won't convince me otherwise.

And the turnover is higher than it's ever been because many are leaving what they "signed up for." The workload is crushing. If we don't find more time for them to get their work done during their contracted hours, turnover isn't going to get any better. Maybe a rotation of random subs in your child's class will convince you otherwise.

Not in FCPS.

And there’s plenty of time in contracted hours— snow days, federal holidays, etc.

🤣🤣 Tell us you are living in fantasy land without telling us. This is the most out-of-touch-with-reality statement I've seen in a while.

I disagree. I think the idea that a professional occupation in 2026 can operate without remote work in bad weather is what is out of touch— especially a profession which insisted for three years that they could deliver results online.

The way the labor market is right now does not favor entitlement from teachers and other stakeholders have had about enough.

No teacher insisted anything of the sort.

Neither did "a profession."

And anyway, how did you like that? You simultaneously imply that Covid instruction didn't deliver results and that online instruction on snow days will.

Well, I'm glad we can finally all agree that the education profession wasn't behind virtual schooling and that it was all the politicians.

m

Well no. Teachers did not want to come back in person after being some of the first to be vaccinated (they got to cut the line). The teacher’s organizations, one being FEA, argued this point.

+1 and I did not hear teachers in Fairfax, refuting their collective bargaining group. So I’m afraid yes, it was “the profession.”

I remember when one of those group’s positions was no in person school until zero Covid cases. Can you imagine? The kids would still be at home now!

And yet five years later the people who insisted they can work from home…can’t work from home even on administrative tasks? Make it make sense.

If schools are officially closed they don’t have to. They may have children at home to care for.

Perhaps they do, but then they can’t complain about insufficient contract hours for planning— they will just need to find childcare.

This whole thread is packed with parents complaining about how when school is closed they need to find childcare, yet you’re now trying to make teachers pay for more childcare.

The irony…

People truly only care about the cost of childcare when it affect themselves.

You need to pay for more childcare? Absolutely not. Let’s revolt! How do we protest? Email our school board members Complain about the calendar!

But if your solution causes teachers to need to pay for more childcare? That’s totally fine.

Teachers are getting paid to work those days. So they should work— or if they have a childcare conflict use their paid leave. Their students parents aren’t being paid to have a day off, and many of those students parents will be expected to telework.

Unless the parents are an hourly wage employee, they too are being paid on their day off… let’s not act like a lot of parents around here don’t have salaries.

Many parents are hourly wage employees. Certainly many more parents than teachers.

And most parents aren’t given a day off for snow days— they are expected to work and find childcare OR use PTO. Exactly the rules which could apply to teachers going forward.

I disagree with the bolded part.

One of the perks of my job at my company is paid days off when the weather is bad, including when my kids have a snow day. I also have flexibility when my kids are ill. I probably make a little less at my company than I could if I worked for another company, doing a similar job, but I wouldn't have the same perks I do currently.

Teachers are the same. They know one of the perks of their job is possible snow days.

Not every job or company is the same. I have certain perks that others don't, just as teachers have certain perks that most do not. There isn't equality among professions or companies, and that's okay.

Snow days weren’t a perk between 2020 and 2023, bringing them back was a mistake. I agree we shouldn’t go back to remote learning, but we should make use of remote technology for the planning, meetings, and other easily done from home tasks that are otherwise days off.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

Sorry. The assessment is on March 19 and 23, not March 20.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

I’m sorry you’re having a hard time motivating your students. That doesn’t justified a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars to parents so you can catch up.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

Sorry. The assessment is on March 19 and 23, not March 20.

So you don’t teach in Fairfax? Because the Fairfax handbook is pretty clear guidelines for when a zero can be given.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

Sorry. The assessment is on March 19 and 23, not March 20.

So you don’t teach in Fairfax? Because the Fairfax handbook is pretty clear guidelines for when a zero can be given.

I do teach in Fairfax.

My administration interprets the grading and reporting guidelines as meaning we have to give students "a chance" to turn in the work, which means until the end of the quarter. Even though we hve a rolling gradebook, we can limit late work acceptance atthe end of each quarter.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

I’m sorry you’re having a hard time motivating your students. That doesn’t justified a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars to parents so you can catch up.

This is a parenting issue, not a teacher issue with motivation of students.

"So you can catch up"?

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

Sorry. The assessment is on March 19 and 23, not March 20.

So you don’t teach in Fairfax? Because the Fairfax handbook is pretty clear guidelines for when a zero can be given.

I do teach in Fairfax.

My administration interprets the grading and reporting guidelines as meaning we have to give students "a chance" to turn in the work, which means until the end of the quarter. Even though we hve a rolling gradebook, we can limit late work acceptance atthe end of each quarter.

That is your administration, stop, blaming “the county” when they give guidelines which do allow for zeros and for refusing late work after two weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

I’m sorry you’re having a hard time motivating your students. That doesn’t justified a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars to parents so you can catch up.

This is a parenting issue, not a teacher issue with motivation of students.

"So you can catch up"?

A good teacher can motivate students to perform, and Fairfax doesn’t make you take assignments two weeks late. Yes, there’s always a role for parenting and improving performance, but again is you catching up with hundreds of thousands of dollars to the parent community?

[Anonymous]

The only logical response to some of the previous posters is:

All the regions
Do smilingly revolt, and who resists
Are mock’d for valiant ignorance,
And perish constant fools.

-- Coriolanus, Act III, Scene 1

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

+1,000 don’t bother trying to explain it to the idiots. They don’t and will never get it. A workday in February has no bearing on grading in March or April. It’s an asinine suggestion from someone who clearly has never been a teacher.

-former FCPS teacher and now parent

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Anonymous wrote:Snow days which may or may not occur in February cannot replace needed workdays in April. Sorry not ever happening.

All the contract requires a workday is that they take place on contracted days. Unless teachers want to go without pay on snow days, which seems foolish, there is no reason they cannot replace those days.

But the workday in April is at the end of the 3rd quarter. Isn’t it supposed to be used to catch up on grading? What does an unplanned snow day the first week of the quarter accomplish?

The work day in April is on April 5th, the first day of the fourth quarter. How behind do you think teachers are that they are are still grading on the first day of the next quarter? Whatever planning needed to be done on April 5 could easily be done on “a random day in February.” or perhaps the workday isn’t necessary at all, in which case by all means cancel and hold school.

Sunday April 5th is a Sunday, so I'm not sure why you expect teachers to be working.

Monday April 6th is a teacher workday. This allows them to input grades and other duties that need to happen at the end of a quarter.

+1 PP has no idea how grades work. They are still being finalized the first day of the next quarter as report cards would be coming out within a week or so of the new quarter. Teachers need that time to enter them. A random show day in February won’t help them with that.

The half day provided on March 27 is for precisely that reason. And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

If you can suggest a way to get my 153 students to turn in the 531 (yes, that number is correct) assignments that currently are missing, so I won't have to use the two hours I have on March 27 to grade work they turn in last minute, I'd love your ideas.

The county won't let me give them zeroes or to refuse to take late work, so the students feel there is no rush to submit missing assignments. They often wait until the last day of the quarter and then submit multiple assignments at once.

Just so you understand:

1. There are currently 531 missing assignments in my class, just from third quarter. They have only had eight graded assignments so far, and there are 531 missing assignments.

2. We still have another summative, an essay-based assessment, next week. That is another 153 items to grade.

3. On March 20 and 23, students are taking a required assessment that has two short responses I have to grade. Add another 153 items to grade.

Did you do that math? --> 531 +153 + 153 = 837 assignments and assessments <--

And if snow days were used strategically, no one would be behind in grading on March 27 because Feb 23 was a fully paid teacher work day, and there are only 22 school days between due to holidays.

You very clearly do not understand the way grading works, especially in middle and high school. How could I have used snow days to grade work that hasn't been submitted? Please explain your twisted logic.

Obviously, I will need March 27's two hours, as well as most of Spring Break, to grade late work and to update grades.

I’m sorry you’re having a hard time motivating your students. That doesn’t justified a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars to parents so you can catch up.

You are a bonafide idiot.