Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

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Anonymous wrote:If you knew that texts existed showing your former employer had tried to destroy your reputation while you still worked for them, in order to discredit you do that people wouldn't believe you if you went public with allegations about potentially harassing behavior by your employer, you would also want your lawyer to find a legal way to obtain those texts without tipping off your former employer.

I think a lot of you are hypocrites. You don't like Blake, which I get, so everything her lawyers do is bad. But the reality is that her lawyers used a clever, and legal, strategy to get needed evidence they knew existed. They did their jobs correctly.

And how would you feel if your former employer did this to you?

Did what? If my former employer wanted texts where I'd smack talked them and those texts were on a company-owned device, they wouldn't even have to subpoena them -- they'd just take them. If they wanted texts from a personal device they'd have to subpoena them from me directly, not from the company I used to work for (which is them), and so of course I'd know about the subpoena.

This all happened because Jennifer Abel, stupidly, texted a bunch of stuff about her employer and boss on her company-owned device, plotted to leave the company and take a major client with her, and that major client also, stupidly, sent texts about their scheme to try and destroy Lively's reputation in the press, which also wound up on that Jonesworks-owned device. Everyone involved in this situation had the option of NOT saying these deeply incriminating things in texts from or to someone's employer-owned work phone, but didn't take that option.

Actually, let me amend that. If you pay close attention, you'll notice Jamey Heath frequently tells people via text that he'd like to speak to them directly about sensitive subjects. While Abel, Nathan, and Baldoni all have very incriminating texts from Abel's Jonesworks' device, but Heath does not. At one point Nathan references would would be a VERY incriminating conversation between Heath and Jed Wallace (something about how Heath has spoken to Wallace about the tactics they are using on social media to ensure they cannot be traced back to Wayfarer) but Heath doesn't say it.

So I guess that's a long way of saying that if my employer found a way to get some texts of mine where I said a bunch of stuff that would enable my employer to sue me for contract violations or harassment, it would be a real FAFO moment for me and would make me question some of my past choices.

It’s impossible to have this conversation because we all view the victim in this scenario differently. You automatically made yourself the one doing the sh*tty thing. Whereas when I imagine my former boss (a narcissistic) circumventing the legal process in some way, I imagine myself as the victim. Sure I’ve had “sophomoric” text conversations with my former coworkers—narcissists have that effect on people. But if she elects to share these conversations with her friends and the NYT, I would feel pretty re-victimized by her using a random Delaware corporation and Doe defendants to do it.

Jennifer did not own that device. She will always be in the wrong and an idiot

The thread is being lost here. They could have gotten the subpoena in an above board, ethical way. But they chose not to, because they gleefully wanted to own Justin (not Jennifer) in the most humiliating way possible. And that, to me, is not the MO of an actual victim. It’s the MO of a celebrity douche couple.

Alternatively, if you believed a person had sexually harassed you and then started a smear campaign against you in retaliation, why wouldn't you want to humiliate them? Also, you would of course be worried about the ongoing smear campaign so you'd have a strong reason to keep any moves towards litigation quiet to avoid them trying to protect it with more negative smearing online.

It is crazy to expect Lively to treat Baldoni with kindness and respect when we know Baldoni had spent the last several months before the subpoena telling Abel and Nathan to go harder in trying to bury Lively.

She had already humiliated him by banning him from his film and relegating him to the basement and before lively supporters come on and say it wasn’t the basement, an influencer just did a tour of the very location this week and showed, drumroll please, there is actually a basement and that’s where Baldoni and his family and friends took pictures in. I’m so sick of the lying and gaslighting by the lively supporters and I don’t believe for one minute it is genuine.

These are really scummy, gross, trash people. These are people that started a company together when Ryan was still married and buying property with his wife.

This is likely the tip of the iceberg. It’s why Blake and Ryan hired the CIA folks to keep this kind of stuff out of the press but they are failing. The whole, we reunited on a blind date in 2011 well after my divorce is all BS. They were buying a company together before the crappy movie where they started their affair even wrapped. For a 22-year-old to be having an affair with a married man in his mid 30s is absolutely disgusting for both of them. It’s gross and there’s no coming back from this.

I worked in PR during this time; an affair with Ryan is one of the least disgusting things that was happening with Blake around this time. She has stage parents that are basically pimps.

Do you consider her more like a victim or a ho?

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So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

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Another lawyer is also sharing some thoughts related to California notice laws - looks like SJ failed as the employer to notify her employee JA. Won’t affect BL directly but is another issue in the SJ/JA/JB lawsuits

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

Shady AF. Love this for BL and RR

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It looks like Liz created an LLC in NYC, but lists Binder as her registered agent. Looks like Binder is listed as the registered agent for over 100 companies. In doing so, although the companies are based in NY, by having him as a CA agent, somehow it looks like the company somehow may come under the jurisdiction of CA law.

It looks like perhaps there is a legality here that is being exploited, perhaps for tax purposes? He’s a registered agent for quite a number of these small companies. I wonder what this is all about?

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Seeing John Mulaneys name under one of the companies that Binder is also a registered agent for. Same thing—same NYC address yet Binder as the CA agent.

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

Shady AF. Love this for BL and RR

Just wow. BL and her husband are even more disgusting than I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like Liz created an LLC in NYC, but lists Binder as her registered agent. Looks like Binder is listed as the registered agent for over 100 companies. In doing so, although the companies are based in NY, by having him as a CA agent, somehow it looks like the company somehow may come under the jurisdiction of CA law.

It looks like perhaps there is a legality here that is being exploited, perhaps for tax purposes? He’s a registered agent for quite a number of these small companies. I wonder what this is all about?

It’s making sense why they hired the CIA guys. Something is telling me Ryan didn’t get to 400 million by doing Van Wilder and Deadpool, and making a few good gambles on companies like mint mobile and his dumb marketing firm.

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Anonymous wrote:If you knew that texts existed showing your former employer had tried to destroy your reputation while you still worked for them, in order to discredit you do that people wouldn't believe you if you went public with allegations about potentially harassing behavior by your employer, you would also want your lawyer to find a legal way to obtain those texts without tipping off your former employer.

I think a lot of you are hypocrites. You don't like Blake, which I get, so everything her lawyers do is bad. But the reality is that her lawyers used a clever, and legal, strategy to get needed evidence they knew existed. They did their jobs correctly.

And how would you feel if your former employer did this to you?

Did what? If my former employer wanted texts where I'd smack talked them and those texts were on a company-owned device, they wouldn't even have to subpoena them -- they'd just take them. If they wanted texts from a personal device they'd have to subpoena them from me directly, not from the company I used to work for (which is them), and so of course I'd know about the subpoena.

This all happened because Jennifer Abel, stupidly, texted a bunch of stuff about her employer and boss on her company-owned device, plotted to leave the company and take a major client with her, and that major client also, stupidly, sent texts about their scheme to try and destroy Lively's reputation in the press, which also wound up on that Jonesworks-owned device. Everyone involved in this situation had the option of NOT saying these deeply incriminating things in texts from or to someone's employer-owned work phone, but didn't take that option.

Actually, let me amend that. If you pay close attention, you'll notice Jamey Heath frequently tells people via text that he'd like to speak to them directly about sensitive subjects. While Abel, Nathan, and Baldoni all have very incriminating texts from Abel's Jonesworks' device, but Heath does not. At one point Nathan references would would be a VERY incriminating conversation between Heath and Jed Wallace (something about how Heath has spoken to Wallace about the tactics they are using on social media to ensure they cannot be traced back to Wayfarer) but Heath doesn't say it.

So I guess that's a long way of saying that if my employer found a way to get some texts of mine where I said a bunch of stuff that would enable my employer to sue me for contract violations or harassment, it would be a real FAFO moment for me and would make me question some of my past choices.

It’s impossible to have this conversation because we all view the victim in this scenario differently. You automatically made yourself the one doing the sh*tty thing. Whereas when I imagine my former boss (a narcissistic) circumventing the legal process in some way, I imagine myself as the victim. Sure I’ve had “sophomoric” text conversations with my former coworkers—narcissists have that effect on people. But if she elects to share these conversations with her friends and the NYT, I would feel pretty re-victimized by her using a random Delaware corporation and Doe defendants to do it.

Jennifer did not own that device. She will always be in the wrong and an idiot

The thread is being lost here. They could have gotten the subpoena in an above board, ethical way. But they chose not to, because they gleefully wanted to own Justin (not Jennifer) in the most humiliating way possible. And that, to me, is not the MO of an actual victim. It’s the MO of a celebrity douche couple.

Alternatively, if you believed a person had sexually harassed you and then started a smear campaign against you in retaliation, why wouldn't you want to humiliate them? Also, you would of course be worried about the ongoing smear campaign so you'd have a strong reason to keep any moves towards litigation quiet to avoid them trying to protect it with more negative smearing online.

It is crazy to expect Lively to treat Baldoni with kindness and respect when we know Baldoni had spent the last several months before the subpoena telling Abel and Nathan to go harder in trying to bury Lively.

She had already humiliated him by banning him from his film and relegating him to the basement and before lively supporters come on and say it wasn’t the basement, an influencer just did a tour of the very location this week and showed, drumroll please, there is actually a basement and that’s where Baldoni and his family and friends took pictures in. I’m so sick of the lying and gaslighting by the lively supporters and I don’t believe for one minute it is genuine.

These are really scummy, gross, trash people. These are people that started a company together when Ryan was still married and buying property with his wife.

This is likely the tip of the iceberg. It’s why Blake and Ryan hired the CIA folks to keep this kind of stuff out of the press but they are failing. The whole, we reunited on a blind date in 2011 well after my divorce is all BS. They were buying a company together before the crappy movie where they started their affair even wrapped. For a 22-year-old to be having an affair with a married man in his mid 30s is absolutely disgusting for both of them. It’s gross and there’s no coming back from this.

I worked in PR during this time; an affair with Ryan is one of the least disgusting things that was happening with Blake around this time. She has stage parents that are basically pimps.

Do you consider her more like a victim or a ho?

Responses to this question were deleted but the question was not removed, which seems odd. Oversight? But also, it seems we’re not allowed to talk about Blake’s reputation but there have been many posts calling Justin a creep, which is a way of insinuating that he’s a predator, but those posts are never taken down.

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Anonymous wrote:If you knew that texts existed showing your former employer had tried to destroy your reputation while you still worked for them, in order to discredit you do that people wouldn't believe you if you went public with allegations about potentially harassing behavior by your employer, you would also want your lawyer to find a legal way to obtain those texts without tipping off your former employer.

I think a lot of you are hypocrites. You don't like Blake, which I get, so everything her lawyers do is bad. But the reality is that her lawyers used a clever, and legal, strategy to get needed evidence they knew existed. They did their jobs correctly.

And how would you feel if your former employer did this to you?

Did what? If my former employer wanted texts where I'd smack talked them and those texts were on a company-owned device, they wouldn't even have to subpoena them -- they'd just take them. If they wanted texts from a personal device they'd have to subpoena them from me directly, not from the company I used to work for (which is them), and so of course I'd know about the subpoena.

This all happened because Jennifer Abel, stupidly, texted a bunch of stuff about her employer and boss on her company-owned device, plotted to leave the company and take a major client with her, and that major client also, stupidly, sent texts about their scheme to try and destroy Lively's reputation in the press, which also wound up on that Jonesworks-owned device. Everyone involved in this situation had the option of NOT saying these deeply incriminating things in texts from or to someone's employer-owned work phone, but didn't take that option.

Actually, let me amend that. If you pay close attention, you'll notice Jamey Heath frequently tells people via text that he'd like to speak to them directly about sensitive subjects. While Abel, Nathan, and Baldoni all have very incriminating texts from Abel's Jonesworks' device, but Heath does not. At one point Nathan references would would be a VERY incriminating conversation between Heath and Jed Wallace (something about how Heath has spoken to Wallace about the tactics they are using on social media to ensure they cannot be traced back to Wayfarer) but Heath doesn't say it.

So I guess that's a long way of saying that if my employer found a way to get some texts of mine where I said a bunch of stuff that would enable my employer to sue me for contract violations or harassment, it would be a real FAFO moment for me and would make me question some of my past choices.

It’s impossible to have this conversation because we all view the victim in this scenario differently. You automatically made yourself the one doing the sh*tty thing. Whereas when I imagine my former boss (a narcissistic) circumventing the legal process in some way, I imagine myself as the victim. Sure I’ve had “sophomoric” text conversations with my former coworkers—narcissists have that effect on people. But if she elects to share these conversations with her friends and the NYT, I would feel pretty re-victimized by her using a random Delaware corporation and Doe defendants to do it.

Jennifer did not own that device. She will always be in the wrong and an idiot

The thread is being lost here. They could have gotten the subpoena in an above board, ethical way. But they chose not to, because they gleefully wanted to own Justin (not Jennifer) in the most humiliating way possible. And that, to me, is not the MO of an actual victim. It’s the MO of a celebrity douche couple.

Alternatively, if you believed a person had sexually harassed you and then started a smear campaign against you in retaliation, why wouldn't you want to humiliate them? Also, you would of course be worried about the ongoing smear campaign so you'd have a strong reason to keep any moves towards litigation quiet to avoid them trying to protect it with more negative smearing online.

It is crazy to expect Lively to treat Baldoni with kindness and respect when we know Baldoni had spent the last several months before the subpoena telling Abel and Nathan to go harder in trying to bury Lively.

She had already humiliated him by banning him from his film and relegating him to the basement and before lively supporters come on and say it wasn’t the basement, an influencer just did a tour of the very location this week and showed, drumroll please, there is actually a basement and that’s where Baldoni and his family and friends took pictures in. I’m so sick of the lying and gaslighting by the lively supporters and I don’t believe for one minute it is genuine.

These are really scummy, gross, trash people. These are people that started a company together when Ryan was still married and buying property with his wife.

This is likely the tip of the iceberg. It’s why Blake and Ryan hired the CIA folks to keep this kind of stuff out of the press but they are failing. The whole, we reunited on a blind date in 2011 well after my divorce is all BS. They were buying a company together before the crappy movie where they started their affair even wrapped. For a 22-year-old to be having an affair with a married man in his mid 30s is absolutely disgusting for both of them. It’s gross and there’s no coming back from this.

I worked in PR during this time; an affair with Ryan is one of the least disgusting things that was happening with Blake around this time. She has stage parents that are basically pimps.

Do you consider her more like a victim or a ho?

Responses to this question were deleted but the question was not removed, which seems odd. Oversight? But also, it seems we’re not allowed to talk about Blake’s reputation but there have been many posts calling Justin a creep, which is a way of insinuating that he’s a predator, but those posts are never taken down.

Oh bummer. I missed them.

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

It suggests that Blake/Ryan had Liz Plank on the payroll.

[Anonymous]

It seems clear that there are going to be a few more shoes to drop over the next few days related to the VanZan entity and who and why they may have been funneling money to last year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So this news just dropped. It’s been discovered that Liz plank started a production company on November 22, 2024. You’ll recall Liz plank was Justin’s podcast partner, who abruptly quit as soon as the New York Times article dropped on December 21.

Guess the address of the production company? It’s the same address as Vanzan. And Eric Binder is associated with both companies (Eric is Ryan’s longtime business partner.)

Scum of the earth and it’s all coming out. What exactly are they paying these CIA guys for.

Maybe they are squashing bigger secrets? but these are still pretty damning and make them look really bad.

can someone explain to me like I'm an idiot what this reveals.

That people have gone off the deep end. Over on Reddit, people are drawing a lot of conclusions from information they don’t understand.

A lot of people living out their private detective fantasies for sure.