NoVA as Silicon Valley East

[Anonymous]

The military industrial complex + universities had always been the place for technology and innovation. It is no coincidence that the Silicon Valley of China is next to the top 2 universities in the country and next to a bunch of government IT/defense labs in Zhongguncun. NoVA was the original silicon valley in the early days with AOL and Darpanet and eventually lost out due to early semiconductor leads in SV. It is now making a comeback with data centers and the cloud. Palantir has a big office in Georgetown, its second largest office outside of Palo Alto. So at this point it should be no wonder to anybody that HQ2 landed here, (in fact I think it was originally planned for the full 50k to be here, but was split due to some last minute NY deal cutting). We may yet hear about apple and its 10k job office in Tysons and Microsoft will likely expand their Azure operations in NoVA massively in the coming years.

The question is if this area were to become silicon valley 2.0 in the next 10 years, what would the property market, education, traffic and taxes look like?

[Anonymous]

Again with this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again with this?

+1 give it a rest op. NoVa is too staid to be the next SV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with this?

+1 give it a rest op. NoVa is too staid to be the next SV.

You have never lived in SV have you? It is tracts and tracts of suburbs between the occasional office park and small-ish downtown areas with 8-10 restaurants. It is like 90% of DC burbs. As someone who grew up in Palo Alto, it is boring as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with this?

+1 give it a rest op. NoVa is too staid to be the next SV.

You have never lived in SV have you? It is tracts and tracts of suburbs between the occasional office park and small-ish downtown areas with 8-10 restaurants. It is like 90% of DC burbs. As someone who grew up in Palo Alto, it is boring as well.

lol... I only lived there for 20 years, working in IT industry.

[Anonymous]

Give it a rest..."data centers and the cloud" =/= the Next Silicon Valley.

[Anonymous]

IT person here. NoVA has been this already for the last 20 years, just not in the consumer-focused, headling-grabbing companies you have in SV. The Fed gov't is the largest purchaser of IT software and services in the world, and that's not new.

The industries here are cybersecurity, cyberdefense, and various technologies around that. And then a lot of datacenters -- it's the datacenter capital of the world (Loudoun county). None of this is new -- it was the same 20 years ago.

So there's no big change coming -- that happened during the AOL days and has continued at a steady pace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest..."data centers and the cloud" =/= the Next Silicon Valley.

exactly... companies put data centers in places where the tech talent is not on the cutting edge. I work for a large high tech company, and most of our data centers are in flyover areas or the south, ie, places with not much tech talent pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IT person here. NoVA has been this already for the last 20 years, just not in the consumer-focused, headling-grabbing companies you have in SV. The Fed gov't is the largest purchaser of IT software and services in the world, and that's not new.

The industries here are cybersecurity, cyberdefense, and various technologies around that. And then a lot of datacenters -- it's the datacenter capital of the world (Loudoun county). None of this is new -- it was the same 20 years ago.

So there's no big change coming -- that happened during the AOL days and has continued at a steady pace.

And this is why NoVa won't be the next SV. This area doesn't draw in cutting edge, creative talent because it's heavily government focused, which is the opposite of cutting edge and creative. Like I stated, it's too staid. Not even Amazon Hq2 will fix this.

PS... and we all know what happened to AOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with this?

+1 give it a rest op. NoVa is too staid to be the next SV.

You have never lived in SV have you? It is tracts and tracts of suburbs between the occasional office park and small-ish downtown areas with 8-10 restaurants. It is like 90% of DC burbs. As someone who grew up in Palo Alto, it is boring as well.

That it is. But it's also near Stanford and Berkeley, in a state that has long attracted those doing cutting-edge work. NoVa is where businesses go after they've already reached critical mass and need an East Coast presence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with this?

+1 give it a rest op. NoVa is too staid to be the next SV.

You have never lived in SV have you? It is tracts and tracts of suburbs between the occasional office park and small-ish downtown areas with 8-10 restaurants. It is like 90% of DC burbs. As someone who grew up in Palo Alto, it is boring as well.

That it is. But it's also near Stanford and Berkeley, in a state that has long attracted those doing cutting-edge work. NoVa is where businesses go after they've already reached critical mass and need an East Coast presence.

exactly... OP is seriously deluded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IT person here. NoVA has been this already for the last 20 years, just not in the consumer-focused, headling-grabbing companies you have in SV. The Fed gov't is the largest purchaser of IT software and services in the world, and that's not new.

The industries here are cybersecurity, cyberdefense, and various technologies around that. And then a lot of datacenters -- it's the datacenter capital of the world (Loudoun county). None of this is new -- it was the same 20 years ago.

So there's no big change coming -- that happened during the AOL days and has continued at a steady pace.

And this is why NoVa won't be the next SV. This area doesn't draw in cutting edge, creative talent because it's heavily government focused, which is the opposite of cutting edge and creative. Like I stated, it's too staid. Not even Amazon Hq2 will fix this.

PS... and we all know what happened to AOL

Uh, except DARPA is here. Pretty much every SV company is wholly dependent on the innovations that came out of DARPA directly or were seeded by DARPA.

[Anonymous]

yawn

[Anonymous]

I have to admit that as you drive down the Dulles corridor today, you have to marvel a bit at what all has changed since even 10 years ago. And there are so many more places to build up along the entire way.

Count me in the camp as being a SV of the east coast, although everything will be reduced. We have more land to spread out, which will keep prices tempered.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IT person here. NoVA has been this already for the last 20 years, just not in the consumer-focused, headling-grabbing companies you have in SV. The Fed gov't is the largest purchaser of IT software and services in the world, and that's not new.

The industries here are cybersecurity, cyberdefense, and various technologies around that. And then a lot of datacenters -- it's the datacenter capital of the world (Loudoun county). None of this is new -- it was the same 20 years ago.

So there's no big change coming -- that happened during the AOL days and has continued at a steady pace.

And this is why NoVa won't be the next SV. This area doesn't draw in cutting edge, creative talent because it's heavily government focused, which is the opposite of cutting edge and creative. Like I stated, it's too staid. Not even Amazon Hq2 will fix this.

PS... and we all know what happened to AOL

Uh, except DARPA is here. Pretty much every SV company is wholly dependent on the innovations that came out of DARPA directly or were seeded by DARPA.

But NoVa tech can't seem to harness that technology and translate it into something like what SV has created.

My DH is a Brit and has stated that a lot of the popular sports today were created by the Brits, but the Brits aren't as good at it as other countries. Same scenario here.