Why are people so upset about Common Core?

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Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

And it's all the Common Core's fault!

Also, Arne Duncan's.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

And it's all the Common Core's fault!

Also, Arne Duncan's.

Is that what I am saying? Or am I saying that if the publics can't even handle IEPs, how on EARTH will they handle this implementation?

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Yes, my nephews have IEPs and I know other students with IEPs. Can you explain why, in different schools in different states, the issues have been the same, i.e. teachers ignoring IEPs, administration not backing IEPs, etc?

Maybe because IEPs can be a headache for schools and teachers? I'm not any of the PPs, but that seems like a reasonable explanation to me.

And I don't understand what this has to do with Common Core standards. Are you saying that there shouldn't be standards because schools and teachers often ignore IEPs?

IEPs are legally binding. It's another implementation failure.

When schools and teachers ignore IEPs, it's an implementation failure of the Common Core?

What if the schools and teachers ignoring IEPs are in Virginia, or Texas, or Alaska? Is that an implementation failure of the Common Core too?

It shows how poorly public schools do at implementation. Given ignoring IEPs is illegal and all....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but IEPs are written by specialists who do very specific testing. When my son is told his dysgraphic dysfunction is so profound, that his IQ drops 40+ points when he tries to take notes, and can be 100% fixed by simply typing on a computer, and the publics refuse him the use of that computer (that we provide so it doesn't cost them a dime), that is not 'simply outlining what a classroom teacher can do'.

They are unrealistic in their expectations, why? We were told because 'it wasn't fair to the other students that my son gets to use a laptop'. That's not unrealistic, that is stupid PC behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

Are you a teacher?

I have had SO many teachers disparage experts in other fields because 'as teachers, they know best'. The height of arrogance...

[Anonymous]

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Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

Are you a teacher?

I have had SO many teachers disparage experts in other fields because 'as teachers, they know best'. The height of arrogance

Wow. Yes, I taught years ago. I worked with a great LD teacher and one who was not so great. That's why I know the difference.

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Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

Are you a teacher?

I have had SO many teachers disparage experts in other fields because 'as teachers, they know best'. The height of arrogance

Pretty clear that you are one of those who tells others what to do when you cannot do it yourself.

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Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

Are you a teacher?

I have had SO many teachers disparage experts in other fields because 'as teachers, they know best'. The height of arrogance

Pretty clear that you are one of those who tells others what to do when you cannot do it yourself.

I don't believe in simply handing over the education of my children and believing they know what's best.

I was told my son was lazy up until third grade. We were refused testing when we asked. He performed well on the standardized tests, so he MUST be lazy, right? Until he told us 'I do all the work in my head and fill in the bubble - easy'. We took him for testing to the tune of 2K. Profoundly dysgraphic. School administration said since THEY didn't pick it up, it wasn't so. I asked them if they wanted to explain why their experts were better than mine in a court of law, to a judge. Apparently they didn't.

We were told by the psychiatrist who administered the tests that this is very typical - if the kids perform well on the standardized tests, they are labeled as lazy, etc., because those tests are what matters to the schools.

You can call me anything you want; my personal experience tells me otherwise.

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Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

Are you a teacher?

I have had SO many teachers disparage experts in other fields because 'as teachers, they know best'. The height of arrogance

Wow. Yes, I taught years ago. I worked with a great LD teacher and one who was not so great. That's why I know the difference.

So when you say 'specialist' you mean LD teacher? Or psychiatrist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Free chapter from a book that discusses and critiques Common Core, debunks the myths, etc:

http://www.glennbeck.com/publish/uploads/2014/04/Conform-Ch-15.pdf

I'm so sorry, I am not going to click on the Glenn Beck website; certainly not to "debunk myths". Please.

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Where did the worksheets come from?

We have had many confusing worksheets come home from school in the past. Never in private. Why does this happen in publics but not in privates? How CAN this happen? If I did this to a customer, there would be hell to pay.

Usually the worksheets have a copyright or identifying information on them. I would hope that people who are taking pictures of confusing worksheets and posting them online would include contact information to the publishers of those worksheets to they can fix the problems, or so people can know not to purchase from those publishers!

I have sent my kids to both private (Catholic) and public (PG County) schools and we have seldom had any problems with the worksheets, personally.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of the IEPs are written by specialists who spend little time with the kid. They are just outlining what the classroom teacher should do. Some of them can be quite unrealistic in expectations. They should be honest.

I'm sorry to have to break this to you, but IEPs are written by specialists who do very specific testing. When my son is told his dysgraphic dysfunction is so profound, that his IQ drops 40+ points when he tries to take notes, and can be 100% fixed by simply typing on a computer, and the publics refuse him the use of that computer (that we provide so it doesn't cost them a dime), that is not 'simply outlining what a classroom teacher can do'.

They are unrealistic in their expectations, why? We were told because 'it wasn't fair to the other students that my son gets to use a laptop'. That's not unrealistic, that is stupid PC behavior.

That is not a legally correct statement for them to make. My son has a 504 plan, not even an IEP, and was allowed to put on it that he may type all assignments! You need an advocate or a lawyer, to help your son get the accommodations he is legally entitled to.

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Yes, my nephews have IEPs and I know other students with IEPs. Can you explain why, in different schools in different states, the issues have been the same, i.e. teachers ignoring IEPs, administration not backing IEPs, etc?

Maybe because IEPs can be a headache for schools and teachers? I'm not any of the PPs, but that seems like a reasonable explanation to me.

And I don't understand what this has to do with Common Core standards. Are you saying that there shouldn't be standards because schools and teachers often ignore IEPs?

IEPs are legally binding. It's another implementation failure.

When schools and teachers ignore IEPs, it's an implementation failure of the Common Core?

What if the schools and teachers ignoring IEPs are in Virginia, or Texas, or Alaska? Is that an implementation failure of the Common Core too?

It shows how poorly public schools do at implementation. Given ignoring IEPs is illegal and all....

So, your worry is for naught!

Public schools will find implementing Common Core to be difficult, so they will ignore Common Core state standards, same as they ignore IEPS.... so you have nothing to worry about right? They will just continue using their old state standards....everything will be back the way you used to like it.

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So, your worry is for naught!

Public schools will find implementing Common Core to be difficult, so they will ignore Common Core state standards, same as they ignore IEPS.... so you have nothing to worry about right? They will just continue using their old state standards....everything will be back the way you used to like it.

PP, I admire your insight. I truly, sincerely do.