2017-18 FCPS Out-of-School Suspensions by Pyramid
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Anonymous
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FCPS has released data on the number of out-of-school suspensions within the various pyramids in 2017-18 (TJHSST is included in the Annandale pyramid).
Mount Vernon 329 West Potomac 263 Annandale 192 Justice 191 Centreville 178 Falls Church 174 Lee 174 South Lakes 174 Hayfield 158 Edison 157 Herndon 153 Westfield 152 Lake Braddock 141 Chantilly 112 South County 100 West Springfield 95 Fairfax 89 Woodson 72 Robinson 58 Marshall 56 Madison 50 Oakton 45 McLean 45 Langley 43 |
Anonymous
| My house is zoned for the LBSS pyramid and in general I feel like the LBSS and Robinson pyramids are similar. Any idea why LBSS has over 2x the number of suspensions as Robinson? |
Anonymous
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Is this number of kids or instances?
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Anonymous
It is completely dependent on the administrator. I have worked in schools where everything horseplay in the hallways was a suspension (labeled as "play fighting" which has to be treated as fighting), and others where horseplay was a lunch detention. The behavior was the same at the different schools. I'm not sure this list is really all that insightful since it's so subjective in how offenses are handled. |
Anonymous
| To add to that, are these 1 day suspensions or 10 day suspensions? Suspensions for what offense? Bringing tylenol vs. pot are technically the same offense (and both suspendable), but parents would obviously view them differently. |
Anonymous
| More unsupervised kids living off Route 1 than off Route 123. |
Anonymous
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This is partly why we moved from a certain school zone to one with a fraction of the suspensions (one of 5 schools that has the fewest suspensions).
Remember that some schools are far larger than others, so the smaller schools like Lee or Falls Church are actually worse than this list appears b/c they have smaller student populations. |
Anonymous
I believe it's the number of instances. Other data appears to describe the percentage of K-12 students in the various pyramids who received out-of-school suspensions in 2017-18: Mount Vernon 5.7% Lee 3.9% West Potomac 3.9% Justice 3.7% Edison 3.6% Falls Church 3.4% Hayfield 3.2% Herndon 3.2% South Lakes 3.1% Centreville 3.0% Annandale 2.3% (includes TJ) South County 2.3% Lake Braddock 2.1% Westfield 2.1% Fairfax 1.8% Woodson 1.5% Chantilly 1.3% Marshall 1.0% Robinson 1.0% West Springfield 1.0% Langley 0.8% Madison 0.8% McLean 0.7% Oakton 0.6% |
Anonymous
As you'd expect, the suspensions increase in middle and high school: Mount Vernon 7.9% Justice 7.1% Falls Church 6.3% Lee 6.2% Edison 5.8% Herndon 5.5% Hayfield 4.4% Centreville 4.0% South Lakes 3.6% Westfield 3.3% Annandale 3.1% (includes TJ) Lake Braddock 3.1% Fairfax 2.0% Oakton 2.0% Chantilly 1.9% Marshall 1.8% South County 1.7% Langley 1.6% Woodson 1.5% West Springfield 1.4% Madison 1.2% McLean 1.2% Robinson 1.1% |
Anonymous
The elementary school suspension rate in the LB pyramid is slightly higher than in the Robinson pyramid, but there was a sizable difference in the middle/high school rates. The numbers jumped at Lake Braddock last year compared to the two prior years. There was a bit of turmoil at LBSS last year relating to Thomas's departure, the interim leadership, and incidents between students and teachers/coaches. I'd expect those numbers to come down. |
Anonymous
DP- That’s what I thought. I think it’s smoother sailing this year. |
Anonymous
So true. I worked at a wealthy FCPS MS and the crap those kids got away with. Not even a write up for things like leaving campus to drink at a friends house. We apparently never had fights either--HAHA. But appearances were really important, so nothing got written up. At another school, one administrator was write up crazy. Look at him funny and he'd write you up. Don't think that those numbers are showing you what is really going on |
Anonymous
Yes. Lake Braddock has had a lot of administrative issues lately, where Robinson and West Springfield have had stable leadership for a while. The neighborhoods are so similar, so I would expect that LB will get back on track soon once things settle down and be more similar to its two neighboring pyramids. |
Anonymous
There's a fairly strong (negative) correlation between student performance and the suspension rates. I could see an outlier or two in either direction, but overall you can see where students come to learn and where they are more likely to show up with a different attitude and end up in trouble. |
Anonymous
| I don’t think those numbers tell the true story. Once my son got in a fight at school and I got a phone call. They didn’t even give him a detention. I asked why he wasn’t being suspended. They said they talked to him and the other student about their feelings and what caused the fight. We had consequences at home but the school didn’t do a thing. He doesn’t have a history of fighting but I would think fighting in school should be an automatic suspension or at least some consequence. |