Bard Early College HS in Ward 7/8

[Anonymous]

Announcement earlier today from DCPS.

https://mayor.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-announces-new-partnership-bard-college

Good! Though I see it meaning that some of the high achievers at Banneker and SWW will be from central/northern DC rather than Wards 7 or 8.

I myself am looking forward to the early college program at Coolidge.

Unlike a lot of the naysayers here, I'm looking for that global studies program at Roosevelt and the Coolidge early high school cohort to represent some really significant opportunities.

Perhaps they'll only be for my kids and their friends if the rest of DC is still struggling to reach grade level, but that's OK for now. Just get it started.

Eventually I see growth everywhere, and a full/moderately successful Wilson along with successful Walls, Banneker, new early college in Ward 7 or 8, early college at Coolidge, will be a decent archipelago of options for parents who can't get into the charter system or would rather not go that route.

[Anonymous]

Is your child entering 9th next year? would you lottery for this option ahead of Banneker or SWW?

[Anonymous]

I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

What you prefer is what Coolidge is supposed to be doing. It's really just a new wrapper on the old program.

The Bard plan is just outsourcing more of DCPS' responsibilities. I wonder if this program will be required to have a location settled before the lottery opens to accept applications, like the charters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

No because I know an administrator at McKinley Tech who's expressed to me that they pass kids even though they don't uphold the gpa to be enrolled there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

Math is a PITA to sum up because of the various classes, but across ALL OF DC (charters plus DCPS) just 33% of 4,567 8th graders were proficient and advanced in ELA. That means the eligible pool is 1500 students at most, probably less if math scores were factored in.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

Math is a PITA to sum up because of the various classes, but across ALL OF DC (charters plus DCPS) just 33% of 4,567 8th graders were proficient and advanced in ELA. That means the eligible pool is 1500 students at most, probably less if math scores were factored in.

This school would be only for the advanced students, though. So how many is that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

Math is a PITA to sum up because of the various classes, but across ALL OF DC (charters plus DCPS) just 33% of 4,567 8th graders were proficient and advanced in ELA. That means the eligible pool is 1500 students at most, probably less if math scores were factored in.

This school would be only for the advanced students, though. So how many is that?

You are making an assumption that DCPS would limit it to students who scored 5s. I am not so sure (Banneker admits 4s or 5s; SWW has never required any minimum PARCC score for admissions).

Anyway, 8% of 8th graders city-wide scored 5, or 365 students.

[Anonymous]

Magnet elementary and middle school options would make more sense. Kids have to prepped early to begin to take advantage of early college opportunities. It's not magic...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

Math is a PITA to sum up because of the various classes, but across ALL OF DC (charters plus DCPS) just 33% of 4,567 8th graders were proficient and advanced in ELA. That means the eligible pool is 1500 students at most, probably less if math scores were factored in.

This school would be only for the advanced students, though. So how many is that?

You are making an assumption that DCPS would limit it to students who scored 5s. I am not so sure (Banneker admits 4s or 5s; SWW has never required any minimum PARCC score for admissions).

Anyway, 8% of 8th graders city-wide scored 5, or 365 students.

But Banneker and SWW are not claiming to be Early College. They are just trying to be very good high schools with smart kids. This is a whole other level and I doubt that Bard would be interested if it does not live up to its billing academically.

[Anonymous]

This just speaks to DCPS' failure to acknowledge that it has a middle school problem. They are completely in denial.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

Math is a PITA to sum up because of the various classes, but across ALL OF DC (charters plus DCPS) just 33% of 4,567 8th graders were proficient and advanced in ELA. That means the eligible pool is 1500 students at most, probably less if math scores were factored in.

This school would be only for the advanced students, though. So how many is that?

You are making an assumption that DCPS would limit it to students who scored 5s. I am not so sure (Banneker admits 4s or 5s; SWW has never required any minimum PARCC score for admissions).

Anyway, 8% of 8th graders city-wide scored 5, or 365 students.

But Banneker and SWW are not claiming to be Early College. They are just trying to be very good high schools with smart kids. This is a whole other level and I doubt that Bard would be interested if it does not live up to its billing academically.

Have you read about Bard and these early college ventures in other urban areas? They are not particularly interested in rigor -- this began as a way for an institution that was failing financially to stay afloat.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the school doesn't just "pass" these kids. I'd rather do things the old way like sending kids to Catholic, UDC or Howard for college courses; at least there wouldn't be any bias there.

You do know there are smart kids in ward 7 and 8 that can do this and not just be passed. Did you comment this because of where the school will be located?

It is not just for "smart kids". Early college is for very, very smart kids who are also mature enough for the coursework. How many 8th graders scoring a 5 in both ELA and Math even exist in DCPS? Most of those kids are not academically or developmentally ready for early college. And the number who would find a school EOTR logistically manageable is even smaller.

DCPS should focus on getting its existing schoolss to a state of adequate functioning.

Math is a PITA to sum up because of the various classes, but across ALL OF DC (charters plus DCPS) just 33% of 4,567 8th graders were proficient and advanced in ELA. That means the eligible pool is 1500 students at most, probably less if math scores were factored in.

This school would be only for the advanced students, though. So how many is that?

You are making an assumption that DCPS would limit it to students who scored 5s. I am not so sure (Banneker admits 4s or 5s; SWW has never required any minimum PARCC score for admissions).

Anyway, 8% of 8th graders city-wide scored 5, or 365 students.

But Banneker and SWW are not claiming to be Early College. They are just trying to be very good high schools with smart kids. This is a whole other level and I doubt that Bard would be interested if it does not live up to its billing academically.

Students who go to this Bard thing will emerge with the same associates degree as some of the SWW students do now. You are not getting a bachelors degree, and the most colleges will only accept some of the credits toward a degree from their own institutions.