Soooo, how is high-density looking to everyone now?

[Anonymous]

I have not seen a published expert yet saying that there is no link between density and COVID cases.

I have seen dozens of experts say that density IS directly related to COVID transmission.

Someone posted a few posts ago (yesterday) a few experts theorizing that DC will recover at a more rapid pace that other areas because it is a LOW density city with the resources of higher density cities. Way to go DC. Now lets use the fruits of our LOW density to pull through this and not change that formula for the future.

Let's keep our nice low density life saving formula.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have not seen a published expert yet saying that there is no link between density and COVID cases.

I have seen dozens of experts say that density IS directly related to COVID transmission.

Someone posted a few posts ago (yesterday) a few experts theorizing that DC will recover at a more rapid pace that other areas because it is a LOW density city with the resources of higher density cities. Way to go DC. Now lets use the fruits of our LOW density to pull through this and not change that formula for the future.

Let's keep our nice low density life saving formula.

Bowser has labeled Ward 3 as a “high opportunity area” for adding height and density. More like it would create a “high opportunity area” for profiteering by her developer cronies ... and for pandemic transmission.

[Anonymous]

Everyone with a brain in her head understands that density is a driving force in this pandemic. Stop the contortions trying to argue otherwise. We’re not idiots.

[Anonymous]

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So it appears that Crestwood was practically the DC epicenter of racial covenants. Yet this single family neighborhood in the mayor’s own Ward 4 gets additional safeguards in her proposed comprehensive plan changes to “protect neighborhood character” from development!

She is SUCH a freakin' hypocrite

And a liar, but a dumb one. Doesn’t she get that folks see through her B.S.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everyone with a brain in her head understands that density is a driving force in this pandemic. Stop the contortions trying to argue otherwise. We’re not idiots.

But people are conflating a whole bunch of issues so that ANY density means we will all die of a viral infection. Increasing density more than current levels in most of the District would still make it far less dense than most neighborhoods in New York, which people keep bringing up in the context of covid and density. And there’s a whole separate question around work and exposure while commuting or working, which is how many current cases appear to be happening. It doesn’t matter if you live in a 3,000 detached house on 4 acres of land if you have to go work in a grocery store full of customers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone with a brain in her head understands that density is a driving force in this pandemic. Stop the contortions trying to argue otherwise. We’re not idiots.

But people are conflating a whole bunch of issues so that ANY density means we will all die of a viral infection. Increasing density more than current levels in most of the District would still make it far less dense than most neighborhoods in New York, which people keep bringing up in the context of covid and density. And there’s a whole separate question around work and exposure while commuting or working, which is how many current cases appear to be happening. It doesn’t matter if you live in a 3,000 detached house on 4 acres of land if you have to go work in a grocery store full of customers.

Hyperbole why don't you. No, nobody is saying that everybody will die. That has not been stated once in this thread. But go ahead and use extreme language to avoid making a fact based argument. Who stated it earlier? So far there are LOTS of experts talking about the problems with density and corona virus. I have not seen a single expert quoted yet saying that dense growth is the future of combatting COVID like pandemics...well actually Mayor Bowser said that. But on the expert side of things, nobody yet.

In fact the Density Bros are already trying to reshape issues with density into 'overcrowding'. Density good, overcrowding bad.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

One idea is that DC can quit electing mayors that are addicted to crack

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

One idea is that DC can quit electing mayors that are addicted to crack

Unless you mean, developer money, do not see this applying to current Mayor. Any helpful suggestions? My issue is that once the wheels are in motion (and the wheels on this density thing are well in motion for Ward 3), they become impossible to stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

One idea is that DC can quit electing mayors that are addicted to crack

Unless you mean, developer money, do not see this applying to current Mayor. Any helpful suggestions? My issue is that once the wheels are in motion (and the wheels on this density thing are well in motion for Ward 3), they become impossible to stop.

Right, just quit electing bad mayors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

Start writing to your ward council member as well as all of the at-large council members and let them know your concerns with this massive regulatory giveaway to developers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

One idea is that DC can quit electing mayors that are addicted to crack

Unless you mean, developer money, do not see this applying to current Mayor. Any helpful suggestions? My issue is that once the wheels are in motion (and the wheels on this density thing are well in motion for Ward 3), they become impossible to stop.

Bowser doesn’t seem to be a crack addict. But in many respects, certainly loose ethics, she is more like Marion Barry than any of the other DC mayors. She’s not as smart as Barry was, but her administration is nearly as corrupt as Barry’s. And she’s even cozier with favored developers than he was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone with a brain in her head understands that density is a driving force in this pandemic. Stop the contortions trying to argue otherwise. We’re not idiots.

But people are conflating a whole bunch of issues so that ANY density means we will all die of a viral infection. Increasing density more than current levels in most of the District would still make it far less dense than most neighborhoods in New York, which people keep bringing up in the context of covid and density. And there’s a whole separate question around work and exposure while commuting or working, which is how many current cases appear to be happening. It doesn’t matter if you live in a 3,000 detached house on 4 acres of land if you have to go work in a grocery store full of customers.

Hyperbole why don't you. No, nobody is saying that everybody will die. That has not been stated once in this thread. But go ahead and use extreme language to avoid making a fact based argument. Who stated it earlier? So far there are LOTS of experts talking about the problems with density and corona virus. I have not seen a single expert quoted yet saying that dense growth is the future of combatting COVID like pandemics...well actually Mayor Bowser said that. But on the expert side of things, nobody yet.

In fact the Density Bros are already trying to reshape issues with density into 'overcrowding'. Density good, overcrowding bad.

No one is saying dense growth is a policy aimed at combatting pandemics. The question is whether this pandemic -- which will, most likely, be behind us within two or three years -- should permanently affect our land use decisions. Since most of the District is still far less dense than most of New York, it doesn't seem like we should be making long-term decisions to shut down future increases in density around covid-19.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

One idea is that DC can quit electing mayors that are addicted to crack

Unless you mean, developer money, do not see this applying to current Mayor. Any helpful suggestions? My issue is that once the wheels are in motion (and the wheels on this density thing are well in motion for Ward 3), they become impossible to stop.

Bowser doesn’t seem to be a crack addict. But in many respects, certainly loose ethics, she is more like Marion Barry than any of the other DC mayors. She’s not as smart as Barry was, but her administration is nearly as corrupt as Barry’s. And she’s even cozier with favored developers than he was.

Which D.C. mayor has not been close with developers, exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a concrete suggestion of how to fight the Mayor's plan? After all, she has the density bros on her side...

One idea is that DC can quit electing mayors that are addicted to crack

Unless you mean, developer money, do not see this applying to current Mayor. Any helpful suggestions? My issue is that once the wheels are in motion (and the wheels on this density thing are well in motion for Ward 3), they become impossible to stop.

Bowser doesn’t seem to be a crack addict. But in many respects, certainly loose ethics, she is more like Marion Barry than any of the other DC mayors. She’s not as smart as Barry was, but her administration is nearly as corrupt as Barry’s. And she’s even cozier with favored developers than he was.

Which D.C. mayor has not been close with developers, exactly?

I liked Anthony Williams and his relationship with contractors. There was no smoke and mirrors. He told you how he stood and why he signed that contract. You may not have liked it, but he was honest about it and why (MLB/Nats Park)