2 yo is 94th percentile for height, below 1st percentile for weight

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Anonymous wrote:Go to a professional. Seriously. Why are you asking here.

Please get therapy for your anger issues and work on your reading comprehension.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to a professional. Seriously. Why are you asking here.

Please get therapy for your anger issues and work on your reading comprehension.

Because taking advice from internet randos is a bad idea on actual health issues. That's why "hey, what's a good muffin recipe" is fine for the internet, "does this mole look bad" not so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to a professional. Seriously. Why are you asking here.

Please get therapy for your anger issues and work on your reading comprehension.

Because taking advice from internet randos is a bad idea on actual health issues. That's why "hey, what's a good muffin recipe" is fine for the internet, "does this mole look bad" not so much.

I didn't ask that or anything remotely like it

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you get these nasty responses because people are just simply jealous that you have a tall and thin child. They are themselves fat or have weight issues and cannot stand the fact that someone has good genetics or that you have self control and do not feed your child junk food. I am not American and can tell you that your daughter is not considered underweight in my country. Good luck and be prepared for a lot of jealous people along the way who would tell you to “ fatten your child up”.

I'm 5'9" and 120 lbs on a heavy day. My kids are 99th for height and 50th for weight. I was one of the responders you're talking about. OP sounds like she has some weird feelings towards food and weight and she's projecting that on her kid.

And let me guess, you're the French poster? Enough said.

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I'm 5'6, 115 and most certainly not jealous of a random internet poster asking for advice. My kids are banana babies (especially one of them, who was a stick as an infant and toddler). I'm the "let them eat ice cream" poster.

OP, you are concerned, otherwise why would you post. You may have to let up on sugar/salt limits a bit. I hear you, I try to limit those too, but you gotta look at each individual kid and made decisions for them, not for the average pre-diabetic overweight child.

Yes, I have a child who has always been around <1% for weight and in the 70th-ish percentile for height. Feeding him is a major time commitment and has caused me to have to rethink my ideas about food and what is good to eat. At the end of the day, the more calories the better. He has a malaborption disorder and some eating aversions (he never wanted to eat much until he became a teen). I buy a lot of "junk" food like peanut butter cups from Trader Joe's that he will eat, in addition to providing healthy but extremely high calorie meals. But it it is difficult and stressful. I am not clear on whether your daughter just had one-time off measurements or whether she likely has an underlying issue, but it isn't generally normal to be "off the charts" in weight if you are so tall. The easiest thing would be to give her more calories and see if she is able to gain. You might want to see a specialist if this trajectory continues.

OP here. Again, I would love to see some resources on whether giving junk food is a healthy/effective way to increase a toddler's BMI. Or are you just here to diagnose an internet poster with food issues? Because that's just bizarre.

It's not givign "junk food" to offer ice cream as a dessert or add cream/butter to vegetables or let your child have sweet or salty foods that are appealing so he/she eats more. These are normal strategies for increasing calorie intake. It's hard to get out of the adult low-cal mindset and feed underweight kids, but it's a totally different ballgame.

You sound like you have some experience with this. Can you share more details about your specific experience?

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you get these nasty responses because people are just simply jealous that you have a tall and thin child. They are themselves fat or have weight issues and cannot stand the fact that someone has good genetics or that you have self control and do not feed your child junk food. I am not American and can tell you that your daughter is not considered underweight in my country. Good luck and be prepared for a lot of jealous people along the way who would tell you to “ fatten your child up”.

I'm 5'9" and 120 lbs on a heavy day. My kids are 99th for height and 50th for weight. I was one of the responders you're talking about. OP sounds like she has some weird feelings towards food and weight and she's projecting that on her kid.

And let me guess, you're the French poster? Enough said.

+1

I'm 5'6, 115 and most certainly not jealous of a random internet poster asking for advice. My kids are banana babies (especially one of them, who was a stick as an infant and toddler). I'm the "let them eat ice cream" poster.

OP, you are concerned, otherwise why would you post. You may have to let up on sugar/salt limits a bit. I hear you, I try to limit those too, but you gotta look at each individual kid and made decisions for them, not for the average pre-diabetic overweight child.

Yes, I have a child who has always been around <1% for weight and in the 70th-ish percentile for height. Feeding him is a major time commitment and has caused me to have to rethink my ideas about food and what is good to eat. At the end of the day, the more calories the better. He has a malaborption disorder and some eating aversions (he never wanted to eat much until he became a teen). I buy a lot of "junk" food like peanut butter cups from Trader Joe's that he will eat, in addition to providing healthy but extremely high calorie meals. But it it is difficult and stressful. I am not clear on whether your daughter just had one-time off measurements or whether she likely has an underlying issue, but it isn't generally normal to be "off the charts" in weight if you are so tall. The easiest thing would be to give her more calories and see if she is able to gain. You might want to see a specialist if this trajectory continues.

OP here. Again, I would love to see some resources on whether giving junk food is a healthy/effective way to increase a toddler's BMI. Or are you just here to diagnose an internet poster with food issues? Because that's just bizarre.

It's not givign "junk food" to offer ice cream as a dessert or add cream/butter to vegetables or let your child have sweet or salty foods that are appealing so he/she eats more. These are normal strategies for increasing calorie intake. It's hard to get out of the adult low-cal mindset and feed underweight kids, but it's a totally different ballgame.

You sound like you have some experience with this. Can you share more details about your specific experience?

Sorry, I posted my experience but it showed up in the middle rather than at the end of the block above. I definitely think it's worth getting some professional advice, as food is complicated and you and your family may have specific considerations. I have a friend with an underweight son with celiac and they have a "contract" (devised by a nutritionist or doctor) where he has to eat a certain number of almonds a certain number of times a day. Thy basically hand him each nut and make sure he eats it. He doesn't like it, but they distract him and keep it light so hopefully it doesn't scar him psychologically. Those kinds of strategies are stressful to implement and you don't want to do these things unless you have to, but the point is -- sometimes you have to. It doesn't sound like you're at that point, but I mention it because for some kids, providing healthy meals is not enough. They really won't eat enough to sustain themselves because other issues are at play.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to a professional. Seriously. Why are you asking here.

Please get therapy for your anger issues and work on your reading comprehension.

Lady you are nuts. Your poor child.

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Anonymous wrote:Go to a professional. Seriously. Why are you asking here.

Please get therapy for your anger issues and work on your reading comprehension.

Lady you are nuts. Your poor child.

Maybe I am, and maybe my child will be damaged (nothing I can do about that if I am "nuts" - that's technical term, right?) but at least I've gotten some helpful ideas and range of experiences to understand this issue better, in addition to the rude and aggressive responses like the above which are par for the course for DCUM, but just boggle my mind still sometimes. Honestly, while I fully recognize I have issues with certain things, body issues aren't one of them, but clearly they are for many posters here.

As I mentioned, I just discussed this issue with our pediatrician (does that count as a professional?) who wasn't overly concerned but recommended high caloric foods, but I am someone who likes to read and learn more about issues to understand them better, and asking here sometimes offers useful pointers and ideas. For example, it was here that I learned I could self-refer to early intervention for speech, which we did and we're so glad to have done that. Of course I take everything I read here with a grain of salt.

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So you talked to the ped and you won't take our advice. What's your question?

I stand by my ice cream suggestions as the mother of anozher slim and tall ("banana") baby.

If feeding more caloric foods doesn't work, your next stop is endocrinology. Yes, it's possible to be tall and still not adequately nourished.

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Anonymous wrote:So you talked to the ped and you won't take our advice. What's your question?

I stand by my ice cream suggestions as the mother of anozher slim and tall ("banana") baby.

If feeding more caloric foods doesn't work, your next stop is endocrinology. Yes, it's possible to be tall and still not adequately nourished.

Which advice am I not taking?

My questions are in the original post. I'd actually prefer references to books/other resources from experts, or alternatively personal experiences like many have kindly shared, rather than "you should do X" without any context, which I won't really give much weight to, because why would anybody blindly follow what some stranger says?

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Wow OP, you sound like a complete Bich

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Anonymous wrote:Wow OP, you sound like a complete Bich

Clever

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I don't have any strategies, but I know the feeling. If she is not showing any signs of malnutrition, perhaps there is nothing to worry about or change. I don't think offering sweets and ice cream will change much in that case.

My younger one was 87 percentile height and 10 percentile weight at birth. At 6, she is 99 percentile height now and 40 percentile for weight. She looks very thin and every one close to me mentions it (not in her presence). I point to my younger sister and say "she gets it from her." My older one is 99 percentile for both height and weight at 8.
They eat the same things. My younger one just eats very little while my old one eats much more.

I am not very concerned because my younger sister and I were exactly like this. My younger sister was very thin (even as a baby), and I was bigger(never overweight as a child/teen but much bigger than her even though we are only a year apart). Our dad was always worried about her. He would offer to buy whatever she wanted to eat. She would ask for sweets, eggs, ice cream, soda - she named it, he bought it. It did nothing. She remained thin.

My younger sister and I are in our late 30s with kids. We are both tall. I am now overweight (BMI ~27), and she is just as thin as she always was. She hasn't gained a
pound since she was 14-15. She is strong (played soccer in college); she just eats less. Her body does not need more, and she listens to it. Ironically, our dad, who was so concerned about her has a similar appetite to my sister and has not gianed any weight in over 40 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have any strategies, but I know the feeling. If she is not showing any signs of malnutrition, perhaps there is nothing to worry about or change. I don't think offering sweets and ice cream will change much in that case.

My younger one was 87 percentile height and 10 percentile weight at birth. At 6, she is 99 percentile height now and 40 percentile for weight. She looks very thin and every one close to me mentions it (not in her presence). I point to my younger sister and say "she gets it from her." My older one is 99 percentile for both height and weight at 8.
They eat the same things. My younger one just eats very little while my old one eats much more.

I am not very concerned because my younger sister and I were exactly like this. My younger sister was very thin (even as a baby), and I was bigger(never overweight as a child/teen but much bigger than her even though we are only a year apart). Our dad was always worried about her. He would offer to buy whatever she wanted to eat. She would ask for sweets, eggs, ice cream, soda - she named it, he bought it. It did nothing. She remained thin.

My younger sister and I are in our late 30s with kids. We are both tall. I am now overweight (BMI ~27), and she is just as thin as she always was. She hasn't gained a
pound since she was 14-15. She is strong (played soccer in college); she just eats less. Her body does not need more, and she listens to it. Ironically, our dad, who was so concerned about her has a similar appetite to my sister and has not gianed any weight in over 40 years.

It’s true kids differ, but the split you mention ((90th percentile for height, 40th for weight) is not that unusual or worrying. Your kid is still a normal weight. OP’s kid is under the 1st percentile for weight. That’s quite different and can be a flag for other conditions.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have any strategies, but I know the feeling. If she is not showing any signs of malnutrition, perhaps there is nothing to worry about or change. I don't think offering sweets and ice cream will change much in that case.

My younger one was 87 percentile height and 10 percentile weight at birth. At 6, she is 99 percentile height now and 40 percentile for weight. She looks very thin and every one close to me mentions it (not in her presence). I point to my younger sister and say "she gets it from her." My older one is 99 percentile for both height and weight at 8.
They eat the same things. My younger one just eats very little while my old one eats much more.

I am not very concerned because my younger sister and I were exactly like this. My younger sister was very thin (even as a baby), and I was bigger(never overweight as a child/teen but much bigger than her even though we are only a year apart). Our dad was always worried about her. He would offer to buy whatever she wanted to eat. She would ask for sweets, eggs, ice cream, soda - she named it, he bought it. It did nothing. She remained thin.

My younger sister and I are in our late 30s with kids. We are both tall. I am now overweight (BMI ~27), and she is just as thin as she always was. She hasn't gained a
pound since she was 14-15. She is strong (played soccer in college); she just eats less. Her body does not need more, and she listens to it. Ironically, our dad, who was so concerned about her has a similar appetite to my sister and has not gianed any weight in over 40 years.

It’s true kids differ, but the split you mention ((90th percentile for height, 40th for weight) is not that unusual or worrying. Your kid is still a normal weight. OP’s kid is under the 1st percentile for weight. That’s quite different and can be a flag for other conditions.

OP here. Sorry there was an error in the subject line which I corrected in my second post. She is 25% for weight, under 1% BMI. She was born at 2% for weight but has been at 25% for a while.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have any strategies, but I know the feeling. If she is not showing any signs of malnutrition, perhaps there is nothing to worry about or change. I don't think offering sweets and ice cream will change much in that case.

My younger one was 87 percentile height and 10 percentile weight at birth. At 6, she is 99 percentile height now and 40 percentile for weight. She looks very thin and every one close to me mentions it (not in her presence). I point to my younger sister and say "she gets it from her." My older one is 99 percentile for both height and weight at 8.
They eat the same things. My younger one just eats very little while my old one eats much more.

I am not very concerned because my younger sister and I were exactly like this. My younger sister was very thin (even as a baby), and I was bigger(never overweight as a child/teen but much bigger than her even though we are only a year apart). Our dad was always worried about her. He would offer to buy whatever she wanted to eat. She would ask for sweets, eggs, ice cream, soda - she named it, he bought it. It did nothing. She remained thin.

My younger sister and I are in our late 30s with kids. We are both tall. I am now overweight (BMI ~27), and she is just as thin as she always was. She hasn't gained a
pound since she was 14-15. She is strong (played soccer in college); she just eats less. Her body does not need more, and she listens to it. Ironically, our dad, who was so concerned about her has a similar appetite to my sister and has not gianed any weight in over 40 years.

A kid with a small appetite would happily fill up on the junk and not eat real food. If they know ice cream comes an hour after dinner every night they will stop eating veggies. And you might become a frequent flyer at the dentist due to cavities.

OP don't forget the BMI includes the height so it is easier for a tall thin kid to have an extreme BMI. They can also have a normal BMI and be skinny fat (too much visceral fat and not enough lean mass).