Thread for Derek Chauvin trial watchers?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mpls jury found it easy to convict the Somali-American rookie who killed the white lady who rapped on the squad car when they were investigating a reported rape in progress.

That was completely different. She was unarmed, obviously a lot less powerful than even the unarmed male officers, had committed no crime (in her life!), and was outside the vehicle. The officers were called out for a rape, so they knew to expect to see a woman in distress. What they saw was a woman in distress, and yet that officer shot her without hesitation. Over his partner from within the vehicle.

The Floyd case is very different. Floyd had high doses of hard narcotics in his system which can be fatal by itself, he had a deadly respiratory virus that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and he was a known criminal who was obviously strong enough to easily physically overpower Chauvin.

I don't think Chauvin seems like a particularly nice person, but I don't think he intended to kill Floyd that day. And if it wasn't for all the drugs and covid, which Chauvin couldn't have known about, then I'm not convinced that Floyd would have died.

Chauvin was a bit rough, but cops dealing with these types of criminals need to be. Polite language doesn't work, and they're trained not to use their weapons if they don't need to. He was probably showing off a bit for the crowd, but he also knew there were a lot of witnesses and that it was being recorded. He might be guilty of something but I don't believe he should go away for the death itself.

He kneeled on his neck for nearly 10 minutes. If someone closes your airway for 10 minutes, you will die, regardless of your previous health. People like you are hateful and disgusting. You will always find an excuse for a cop - this was murder, plain and simple.

As I said upthread - the goalposts keep moving. No one’s life was ever in danger here, with the exception of George Floyd.

He was a drug addict and had two different illegal substances in his body.

So he deserved to die?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mpls jury found it easy to convict the Somali-American rookie who killed the white lady who rapped on the squad car when they were investigating a reported rape in progress.

That was completely different. She was unarmed, obviously a lot less powerful than even the unarmed male officers, had committed no crime (in her life!), and was outside the vehicle. The officers were called out for a rape, so they knew to expect to see a woman in distress. What they saw was a woman in distress, and yet that officer shot her without hesitation. Over his partner from within the vehicle.

The Floyd case is very different. Floyd had high doses of hard narcotics in his system which can be fatal by itself, he had a deadly respiratory virus that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and he was a known criminal who was obviously strong enough to easily physically overpower Chauvin.

I don't think Chauvin seems like a particularly nice person, but I don't think he intended to kill Floyd that day. And if it wasn't for all the drugs and covid, which Chauvin couldn't have known about, then I'm not convinced that Floyd would have died.

Chauvin was a bit rough, but cops dealing with these types of criminals need to be. Polite language doesn't work, and they're trained not to use their weapons if they don't need to. He was probably showing off a bit for the crowd, but he also knew there were a lot of witnesses and that it was being recorded. He might be guilty of something but I don't believe he should go away for the death itself.

he was kneeling on his neck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mpls jury found it easy to convict the Somali-American rookie who killed the white lady who rapped on the squad car when they were investigating a reported rape in progress.

That was completely different. She was unarmed, obviously a lot less powerful than even the unarmed male officers, had committed no crime (in her life!), and was outside the vehicle. The officers were called out for a rape, so they knew to expect to see a woman in distress. What they saw was a woman in distress, and yet that officer shot her without hesitation. Over his partner from within the vehicle.

The Floyd case is very different. Floyd had high doses of hard narcotics in his system which can be fatal by itself, he had a deadly respiratory virus that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and he was a known criminal who was obviously strong enough to easily physically overpower Chauvin.

I don't think Chauvin seems like a particularly nice person, but I don't think he intended to kill Floyd that day. And if it wasn't for all the drugs and covid, which Chauvin couldn't have known about, then I'm not convinced that Floyd would have died.

Chauvin was a bit rough, but cops dealing with these types of criminals need to be. Polite language doesn't work, and they're trained not to use their weapons if they don't need to. He was probably showing off a bit for the crowd, but he also knew there were a lot of witnesses and that it was being recorded. He might be guilty of something but I don't believe he should go away for the death itself.

He kneeled on his neck for nearly 10 minutes. If someone closes your airway for 10 minutes, you will die, regardless of your previous health. People like you are hateful and disgusting. You will always find an excuse for a cop - this was murder, plain and simple.

As I said upthread - the goalposts keep moving. No one’s life was ever in danger here, with the exception of George Floyd.

He was a drug addict and had two different illegal substances in his body.

So he deserved to die?

that seems to be PP’s belief. that if you’re on drugs or sick, cops have no responsibility for compromising your circulatory system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mpls jury found it easy to convict the Somali-American rookie who killed the white lady who rapped on the squad car when they were investigating a reported rape in progress.

That was completely different. She was unarmed, obviously a lot less powerful than even the unarmed male officers, had committed no crime (in her life!), and was outside the vehicle. The officers were called out for a rape, so they knew to expect to see a woman in distress. What they saw was a woman in distress, and yet that officer shot her without hesitation. Over his partner from within the vehicle.

The Floyd case is very different. Floyd had high doses of hard narcotics in his system which can be fatal by itself, he had a deadly respiratory virus that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and he was a known criminal who was obviously strong enough to easily physically overpower Chauvin.

I don't think Chauvin seems like a particularly nice person, but I don't think he intended to kill Floyd that day. And if it wasn't for all the drugs and covid, which Chauvin couldn't have known about, then I'm not convinced that Floyd would have died.

Chauvin was a bit rough, but cops dealing with these types of criminals need to be. Polite language doesn't work, and they're trained not to use their weapons if they don't need to. He was probably showing off a bit for the crowd, but he also knew there were a lot of witnesses and that it was being recorded. He might be guilty of something but I don't believe he should go away for the death itself.

He kneeled on his neck for nearly 10 minutes. If someone closes your airway for 10 minutes, you will die, regardless of your previous health. People like you are hateful and disgusting. You will always find an excuse for a cop - this was murder, plain and simple.

As I said upthread - the goalposts keep moving. No one’s life was ever in danger here, with the exception of George Floyd.

He was a drug addict and had two different illegal substances in his body.

So? He was alive until someone pressed a knee into his neck and held it there. You keep parroting the same point. What’s your logic?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sooooo disappointed in this thread! C’mon, DCUM: half of you are T15/biglaw/biglaw alumni, so how come we can’t have a decent discussion about the actual LAW?!

lol. T15 and biglaw lawyers rarely see the inside of a courtroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am sooooo disappointed in this thread! C’mon, DCUM: half of you are T15/biglaw/biglaw alumni, so how come we can’t have a decent discussion about the actual LAW?!

lol. T15 and biglaw lawyers rarely see the inside of a courtroom.

Even if you’ve seen plenty of the inside of a courtroom (which I have), civil proceedings are differeny from criminal proceedings, so I wouldn’t presume that my extensive civil experience gives me particular expertise on criminal trials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sooooo disappointed in this thread! C’mon, DCUM: half of you are T15/biglaw/biglaw alumni, so how come we can’t have a decent discussion about the actual LAW?!

lol. T15 and biglaw lawyers rarely see the inside of a courtroom.

This T15 lawyer went into legal aid then public defender and finally prosecution. Spent time in court almost every day of my time in active practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sooooo disappointed in this thread! C’mon, DCUM: half of you are T15/biglaw/biglaw alumni, so how come we can’t have a decent discussion about the actual LAW?!

lol. T15 and biglaw lawyers rarely see the inside of a courtroom.

This T15 lawyer went into legal aid then public defender and finally prosecution. Spent time in court almost every day of my time in active practice.

And how many of your classmates went that route?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sooooo disappointed in this thread! C’mon, DCUM: half of you are T15/biglaw/biglaw alumni, so how come we can’t have a decent discussion about the actual LAW?!

lol. T15 and biglaw lawyers rarely see the inside of a courtroom.

This T15 lawyer went into legal aid then public defender and finally prosecution. Spent time in court almost every day of my time in active practice.

And how many of your classmates went that route?

NP here and hold up, we said we wanted legal takes on the proceedings, not career path measuring please god no

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The prosecutors have some problem witnesses and they didn’t prepare them very well. Who dressed Mr. McMillan with his bright white glasses? He looks like he’s heading to the production set for Superfly.

This on top of the teenage kid and the plainclothes EMT whining about being ignored.

Fact is, the convenience store showed how enormous and powerful Floyd was. Now we’re supposed to think the drugs made him less dangerous?

Most of the jurors have seen movies where the thug looks like he’s subdued but was just playing possum. It’s too late when you’re taking the bullet or knife. Better to err on the side of safety.

And to think, all this could have been averted if Floyd had just used a real $20. Sad.

My goodness but you’re twisted. As if a property crime ALLEGATION justifies a death penalty absent due process.

Has there ever been confirmation the money was counterfeit? I have never seen any if there was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The prosecutors have some problem witnesses and they didn’t prepare them very well. Who dressed Mr. McMillan with his bright white glasses? He looks like he’s heading to the production set for Superfly.

This on top of the teenage kid and the plainclothes EMT whining about being ignored.

Fact is, the convenience store showed how enormous and powerful Floyd was. Now we’re supposed to think the drugs made him less dangerous?

Most of the jurors have seen movies where the thug looks like he’s subdued but was just playing possum. It’s too late when you’re taking the bullet or knife. Better to err on the side of safety.

And to think, all this could have been averted if Floyd had just used a real $20. Sad.

Trolls didn’t waste any time skittering out from under their bridges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mpls jury found it easy to convict the Somali-American rookie who killed the white lady who rapped on the squad car when they were investigating a reported rape in progress.

That was completely different. She was unarmed, obviously a lot less powerful than even the unarmed male officers, had committed no crime (in her life!), and was outside the vehicle. The officers were called out for a rape, so they knew to expect to see a woman in distress. What they saw was a woman in distress, and yet that officer shot her without hesitation. Over his partner from within the vehicle.

The Floyd case is very different. Floyd had high doses of hard narcotics in his system which can be fatal by itself, he had a deadly respiratory virus that has been killing hundreds of thousands of Americans, and he was a known criminal who was obviously strong enough to easily physically overpower Chauvin.

I don't think Chauvin seems like a particularly nice person, but I don't think he intended to kill Floyd that day. And if it wasn't for all the drugs and covid, which Chauvin couldn't have known about, then I'm not convinced that Floyd would have died.

Chauvin was a bit rough, but cops dealing with these types of criminals need to be. Polite language doesn't work, and they're trained not to use their weapons if they don't need to. He was probably showing off a bit for the crowd, but he also knew there were a lot of witnesses and that it was being recorded. He might be guilty of something but I don't believe he should go away for the death itself.

He kneeled on his neck for nearly 10 minutes. If someone closes your airway for 10 minutes, you will die, regardless of your previous health. People like you are hateful and disgusting. You will always find an excuse for a cop - this was murder, plain and simple.

As I said upthread - the goalposts keep moving. No one’s life was ever in danger here, with the exception of George Floyd.

He was a drug addict and had two different illegal substances in his body.

So drug addicts deserve execution. Why stop with them. How about execute the alcoholics as well. Then we can start on the addicts who take legal substances like the vicadin and Valium. Those people need immediate elimination. How dare there expect anything less. Wait for it, because pretty soon the executioner will land on something or someone that is close to your home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The prosecutors have some problem witnesses and they didn’t prepare them very well. Who dressed Mr. McMillan with his bright white glasses? He looks like he’s heading to the production set for Superfly.

This on top of the teenage kid and the plainclothes EMT whining about being ignored.

Fact is, the convenience store showed how enormous and powerful Floyd was. Now we’re supposed to think the drugs made him less dangerous?

Most of the jurors have seen movies where the thug looks like he’s subdued but was just playing possum. It’s too late when you’re taking the bullet or knife. Better to err on the side of safety.

And to think, all this could have been averted if Floyd had just used a real $20. Sad.

My goodness but you’re twisted. As if a property crime ALLEGATION justifies a death penalty absent due process.

Has there ever been confirmation the money was counterfeit? I have never seen any if there was.

No confirmation. The police never took the bill into evidence. They never told Floyd why he was being handcuffed and arrested. And the police never got an identification that Floyd was the one who passed the counterfeit note. The officer said, somebody passed a counterfeit bill. Sloppy police work from the start.

[Anonymous]

Why are so many witnesses answering “correct” to yes/ no questions?!

“Did you see him enter the store?” Correct.
“Did you speak to him?” Correct.

This makes so sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are so many witnesses answering “correct” to yes/ no questions?!

“Did you see him enter the store?” Correct.
“Did you speak to him?” Correct.

This makes so sense to me.

It's because they were coached.

They're not just answering the questions truthfully, they're trying to sound intelligent and say what they think will help their case.