Serious question - are the kids who "love DL" all introverted?

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Anonymous wrote:The bullies and disruptive kids are posting in the chat on the online school platforms (e.g. MS Teams). I encourage parents to take a look. VERY eye opening!

YES! My DD is in class with a kid she said was a menace in an earlier class they had together, but never could give specific details so I didn't take it seriously. But this year I can see that he openly is a jerk to everyone in the class in the chat. He is constantly trying to start up a side conversation, pull people to breakout rooms, remove people from meetings, join the wrong breakout groups on purpose (join all breakout rooms for a minute while people are trying to work).

It has been eye opening.

What grade are your kids in? I am sure there is a lot of that going on, but the chat in my third-graders class is just hilarious. The kids are so clever and so cute. Sometimes obnoxious, yeah. But. Everybody should read their kid’s chats for the entertainment value at a minimum.

4th!

I'm the other PP and also 4th. From what I can see, the other kids seem fine on the chat, but it's just this one kid that my DD complains about almost every day. Yesterday he popped into her after school small reading group. I don't understand why the teacher hasn't been able to do more to control him - she's obviously annoyed by him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bullies and disruptive kids are posting in the chat on the online school platforms (e.g. MS Teams). I encourage parents to take a look. VERY eye opening!

YES! My DD is in class with a kid she said was a menace in an earlier class they had together, but never could give specific details so I didn't take it seriously. But this year I can see that he openly is a jerk to everyone in the class in the chat. He is constantly trying to start up a side conversation, pull people to breakout rooms, remove people from meetings, join the wrong breakout groups on purpose (join all breakout rooms for a minute while people are trying to work).

It has been eye opening.

What grade are your kids in? I am sure there is a lot of that going on, but the chat in my third-graders class is just hilarious. The kids are so clever and so cute. Sometimes obnoxious, yeah. But. Everybody should read their kid’s chats for the entertainment value at a minimum.

4th!

I'm the other PP and also 4th. From what I can see, the other kids seem fine on the chat, but it's just this one kid that my DD complains about almost every day. Yesterday he popped into her after school small reading group. I don't understand why the teacher hasn't been able to do more to control him - she's obviously annoyed by him.

DP here. Say something, document it. We had one student who always asked my DC, every day, several times per day - about almost each and every assignment. He could not follow directions and needed help, and the teacher thought that my DC would be a good .....IDK....second teacher?? The boy needed an aide or something, but they refused because the mom didn't want to admit he had a problem - which did him a HUGE disservice, because now no one wants to help him. It was disruptive of him to expect one student to miss their assignment time to try to walk him through the steps, and he was taking classes that were not his level. You need to document everything to the school if a student is being disruptive, OP. Otherwise, the school, with the parents lead, will let anything slide that they can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bullies and disruptive kids are posting in the chat on the online school platforms (e.g. MS Teams). I encourage parents to take a look. VERY eye opening!

YES! My DD is in class with a kid she said was a menace in an earlier class they had together, but never could give specific details so I didn't take it seriously. But this year I can see that he openly is a jerk to everyone in the class in the chat. He is constantly trying to start up a side conversation, pull people to breakout rooms, remove people from meetings, join the wrong breakout groups on purpose (join all breakout rooms for a minute while people are trying to work).

It has been eye opening.

What grade are your kids in? I am sure there is a lot of that going on, but the chat in my third-graders class is just hilarious. The kids are so clever and so cute. Sometimes obnoxious, yeah. But. Everybody should read their kid’s chats for the entertainment value at a minimum.

4th!

I'm the other PP and also 4th. From what I can see, the other kids seem fine on the chat, but it's just this one kid that my DD complains about almost every day. Yesterday he popped into her after school small reading group. I don't understand why the teacher hasn't been able to do more to control him - she's obviously annoyed by him.

DP here. Say something, document it. We had one student who always asked my DC, every day, several times per day - about almost each and every assignment. He could not follow directions and needed help, and the teacher thought that my DC would be a good .....IDK....second teacher?? The boy needed an aide or something, but they refused because the mom didn't want to admit he had a problem - which did him a HUGE disservice, because now no one wants to help him. It was disruptive of him to expect one student to miss their assignment time to try to walk him through the steps, and he was taking classes that were not his level. You need to document everything to the school if a student is being disruptive, OP. Otherwise, the school, with the parents lead, will let anything slide that they can.

The teachers obviously see this, but I can ask my DD go take some screen shots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The bullies and disruptive kids are posting in the chat on the online school platforms (e.g. MS Teams). I encourage parents to take a look. VERY eye opening!

YES! My DD is in class with a kid she said was a menace in an earlier class they had together, but never could give specific details so I didn't take it seriously. But this year I can see that he openly is a jerk to everyone in the class in the chat. He is constantly trying to start up a side conversation, pull people to breakout rooms, remove people from meetings, join the wrong breakout groups on purpose (join all breakout rooms for a minute while people are trying to work).

It has been eye opening.

What grade are your kids in? I am sure there is a lot of that going on, but the chat in my third-graders class is just hilarious. The kids are so clever and so cute. Sometimes obnoxious, yeah. But. Everybody should read their kid’s chats for the entertainment value at a minimum.

4th!

I'm the other PP and also 4th. From what I can see, the other kids seem fine on the chat, but it's just this one kid that my DD complains about almost every day. Yesterday he popped into her after school small reading group. I don't understand why the teacher hasn't been able to do more to control him - she's obviously annoyed by him.

DP here. Say something, document it. We had one student who always asked my DC, every day, several times per day - about almost each and every assignment. He could not follow directions and needed help, and the teacher thought that my DC would be a good .....IDK....second teacher?? The boy needed an aide or something, but they refused because the mom didn't want to admit he had a problem - which did him a HUGE disservice, because now no one wants to help him. It was disruptive of him to expect one student to miss their assignment time to try to walk him through the steps, and he was taking classes that were not his level. You need to document everything to the school if a student is being disruptive, OP. Otherwise, the school, with the parents lead, will let anything slide that they can.

How compassionate.

[Anonymous]

When I was in high school I was not attractive (acne, over weight) and had trouble making friends. Lunch was the most stressful. I had no regular group to sit with. Sometimes I would sit in the library to do homework during lunch while secretly eating my sandwich. Would I have enjoyed DL? Absolutely. Would it have been the best thing for me? NO. Kids need to learn how to navigate the world and sometimes difficult social situations. We are really depriving them of a lot of soft skills this year. You can’t spend your entire life hiding behind a computer. There are distractions and hardships in real life. We need to help teach our kids to face them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school I was not attractive (acne, over weight) and had trouble making friends. Lunch was the most stressful. I had no regular group to sit with. Sometimes I would sit in the library to do homework during lunch while secretly eating my sandwich. Would I have enjoyed DL? Absolutely. Would it have been the best thing for me? NO. Kids need to learn how to navigate the world and sometimes difficult social situations. We are really depriving them of a lot of soft skills this year. You can’t spend your entire life hiding behind a computer. There are distractions and hardships in real life. We need to help teach our kids to face them.

+1. So many people say that we should just set up playdates with friends. First, teenagers don't have playdates and what they need most to prepare them for being out in the world is not more playing video games with their friends. They need to be with people who aren't their friends, who are different from them, and who don't like them. My socialization as an adult woman can be accomplished through Zoom during the pandemic, even as it drags on. My teenagers' need for socialization as part of their development cannot be adequately addressed through only virtual interactions with friends and structured virtual activities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have an extrovert who does okay with distance learning because he is no longer exposed to the bullies in his class.

+1

The troublemakers are kept at bay, and now the parents ("Open FCPS") are left to deal with them. About time.

Now, we can learn in peace.

You sound bitter. Try not to let your kid pick up on that.

Bitter about what? Your monster? Maybe stop projecting.

huh?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school I was not attractive (acne, over weight) and had trouble making friends. Lunch was the most stressful. I had no regular group to sit with. Sometimes I would sit in the library to do homework during lunch while secretly eating my sandwich. Would I have enjoyed DL? Absolutely. Would it have been the best thing for me? NO. Kids need to learn how to navigate the world and sometimes difficult social situations. We are really depriving them of a lot of soft skills this year. You can’t spend your entire life hiding behind a computer. There are distractions and hardships in real life. We need to help teach our kids to face them.

+1. So many people say that we should just set up playdates with friends. First, teenagers don't have playdates and what they need most to prepare them for being out in the world is not more playing video games with their friends. They need to be with people who aren't their friends, who are different from them, and who don't like them. My socialization as an adult woman can be accomplished through Zoom during the pandemic, even as it drags on. My teenagers' need for socialization as part of their development cannot be adequately addressed through only virtual interactions with friends and structured virtual activities.

These posters are 100% spot on. All this is doing is prolonging the inevitable for kids who have social issues. They NEED to learn resilience, compassion, to find their 'people.' It's not developmentally appropriate to keep them sidelined.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school I was not attractive (acne, over weight) and had trouble making friends. Lunch was the most stressful. I had no regular group to sit with. Sometimes I would sit in the library to do homework during lunch while secretly eating my sandwich. Would I have enjoyed DL? Absolutely. Would it have been the best thing for me? NO. Kids need to learn how to navigate the world and sometimes difficult social situations. We are really depriving them of a lot of soft skills this year. You can’t spend your entire life hiding behind a computer. There are distractions and hardships in real life. We need to help teach our kids to face them.

+1. So many people say that we should just set up playdates with friends. First, teenagers don't have playdates and what they need most to prepare them for being out in the world is not more playing video games with their friends. They need to be with people who aren't their friends, who are different from them, and who don't like them. My socialization as an adult woman can be accomplished through Zoom during the pandemic, even as it drags on. My teenagers' need for socialization as part of their development cannot be adequately addressed through only virtual interactions with friends and structured virtual activities.

Yup. And this is why was don't pandemic. My kids have been seeing friends, having sleepovers and going places. Even if it's something incredibly lame like meeting friends at McDonald's. My oldest boys are even back at the gym in their group training classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was in high school I was not attractive (acne, over weight) and had trouble making friends. Lunch was the most stressful. I had no regular group to sit with. Sometimes I would sit in the library to do homework during lunch while secretly eating my sandwich. Would I have enjoyed DL? Absolutely. Would it have been the best thing for me? NO. Kids need to learn how to navigate the world and sometimes difficult social situations. We are really depriving them of a lot of soft skills this year. You can’t spend your entire life hiding behind a computer. There are distractions and hardships in real life. We need to help teach our kids to face them.

+1. So many people say that we should just set up playdates with friends. First, teenagers don't have playdates and what they need most to prepare them for being out in the world is not more playing video games with their friends. They need to be with people who aren't their friends, who are different from them, and who don't like them. My socialization as an adult woman can be accomplished through Zoom during the pandemic, even as it drags on. My teenagers' need for socialization as part of their development cannot be adequately addressed through only virtual interactions with friends and structured virtual activities.

Yup. And this is why was don't pandemic. My kids have been seeing friends, having sleepovers and going places. Even if it's something incredibly lame like meeting friends at McDonald's. My oldest boys are even back at the gym in their group training classes.

You “don’t pandemic?” Sweetie, you can’t just opt out of a pandemic.

[Anonymous]

No, my introvert doesn't like it. Actually I think it's made my introvert realize how important live, human interaction is to their mental well being.

[Anonymous]

My child is an introvert but she also plays outside with neighbors (all kids masked) several times a week, so she gets her social interaction through that. She loved in-person school, and I wouldn't say she LOVES DL, but she's fine with it, and when we asked if she wanted to stay DL or go back in person she was indifferent.

She's a kid who can sit still, concentrate and follow instructions. She gets her energy out at appropriate times. Some kids are like that, and they're the ones who are doing well with DL. This is a 7 year old, btw.

[Anonymous]

We have two kids (ES and MS). The ES kid is an extrovert and hates DL. She's signed up for hybrid. The MS kid is a huge introvert who has also had issues with bullying in the past. He asked to stay virtual. We said yes, but we aren't doing it at all for pandemic reasons. He's got straight As and is happy right now, so why rock the boat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, my introvert doesn't like it. Actually I think it's made my introvert realize how important live, human interaction is to their mental well being.

One of my kids is like this. He is a senior and we keep talking about using what he learned from this year to take more risks and to focus on building relationships in college.

On the other hand, I've got another with the opposite problem. I wouldn't say he loves DL, but he likes being home, sleeping in, and having more time to play video games. I told him that he needs to work on meeting more in real life friends. His answer was: "Why? I've got you guys. I'm perfectly happy." Not sure if I'm a good parent or a bad one.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it matters so much about introvert / extrovert, but how bullied and chaotic the kid finds their grade or school.