What will school look like after the pandemic??

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. For 2021-22 if will be 5 day with masks and maybe period returns to DL for kids or classes if there are outbreaks among kids

By 2022-23 it will be largely back to normal but when you look at the flu stats for this year, it is very obvious we should be masking in winter forever for public health. So much decrease in other viruses due to masking and distance, it’s insane we ever just went around sick and unmasked in flu seasons.

That is what school will look like on a practical level. On a macro level, a lot of good teachers will leave and many who would have been great will never enter after seeing what teachers had to do this year. We will be facing a serious crisis in education. I am worried on behalf of my kids because they have many years of school left and fewer and fewer talented and dedicated teachers will be able to justify staying or ever joining the field. That plus entitled White parents who want to vote to defund schools out of anger and spite mean schools will really face a crisis in the next 5-7 years. The impact of this year will be like a tsunami. Deceptively slow rolling but disastrous in the aftermath


You sounded reasonable until the "entitled white parents" jab.


Agreed. I was feeling this post...then out of nowhere, an unnecessary slap.


It’s not an unnecessary jab. It’s reality. You don’t have to like it.


You do realize that’s who does most of the advocating because poor people tend not to advocate for their own interests and don’t know how to navigate the system. But you can keep throwing disadvantaged kids under the bus as they fall further behind so you can enjoy DL in your pajamas for a virus that’s not dangerous to kids.


Very few people on this forum are advocating for the disadvantaged. They are advocating for themselves.


That's how it works. Outspoken families advocate for better schools for themselves. The rest benefit.
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. For 2021-22 if will be 5 day with masks and maybe period returns to DL for kids or classes if there are outbreaks among kids

By 2022-23 it will be largely back to normal but when you look at the flu stats for this year, it is very obvious we should be masking in winter forever for public health. So much decrease in other viruses due to masking and distance, it’s insane we ever just went around sick and unmasked in flu seasons.

That is what school will look like on a practical level. On a macro level, a lot of good teachers will leave and many who would have been great will never enter after seeing what teachers had to do this year. We will be facing a serious crisis in education. I am worried on behalf of my kids because they have many years of school left and fewer and fewer talented and dedicated teachers will be able to justify staying or ever joining the field. That plus entitled White parents who want to vote to defund schools out of anger and spite mean schools will really face a crisis in the next 5-7 years. The impact of this year will be like a tsunami. Deceptively slow rolling but disastrous in the aftermath


You sounded reasonable until the "entitled white parents" jab.


Agreed. I was feeling this post...then out of nowhere, an unnecessary slap.


It’s not an unnecessary jab. It’s reality. You don’t have to like it.


You do realize that’s who does most of the advocating because poor people tend not to advocate for their own interests and don’t know how to navigate the system. But you can keep throwing disadvantaged kids under the bus as they fall further behind so you can enjoy DL in your pajamas for a virus that’s not dangerous to kids.


Very few people on this forum are advocating for the disadvantaged. They are advocating for themselves.
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As they should. DL had caused a lot of issues for children and families.


Yes. There was an article in the Post about race and return to school. Literally all parents fighting for return to school in the news is white. They haven’t interviewed any minority. Also minorities have chosen DL more than in person.


Why does it matter if they have chosen DL if they are failing in school? Don’t be an apologist.



A lot of parents are using this, so many high needs ESL kids need to be in school, but a lot of them won’t be going back.
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Anonymous wrote:All over the country kids are back in school part time or full time. Some places don’t require masks. Some places aren’t prioritizing teacher vaccines. Nowhere is planning a hybrid fall like the crazy NEA woman wants.

If anything, local parents have been unbelievably tolerant and patient with the public schools.


I disagree. Parents have been complaining about everything this whole time.

Examples: DL should be for all! We should be able to change our mind! My kid’s teacher is not teaching. My kid is not learning. My kid needs school on Monday. My kid is getting too much work! Teachers should be forced back once they get the vaccine! It is going to snow, give the kids a snow day! We have virtual, they can go to school when it snows! My kid shouldn’t have to wear a mask!

I can keep going...


Are you kidding me? Complaints online? There are parts of the country where parents would have been rioting in the streets if schools were
closed this long. I have family and friends who text me in amazement every time they see FCPS on the news. They can’t believe parents here have been so tolerant.


Nobody riots in the streets in this country. Anywhere over anything. We are incredibly complacent and docile.
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Anonymous wrote:I think parents have been willing to sacrifice their children’s well being this year to protect teachers but I think the teacher association saying they didn’t want to go back AFTER being vaccinated was the last straw for a lot of formerly-understanding parents.



If you read this board, the majority of teachers do plan on going back once vaccinated. They should’t go back till they have both doses which what teachers have been pushing.


Agree. It was unfortunate that the person who claims she speaks for the teachers made such a foolish ask.



Well there will be teachers going back without both doses since they screwed out the vaccine rollout and that is wrong.
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Dude, violent traitors just rioted at the Capitol.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. For 2021-22 if will be 5 day with masks and maybe period returns to DL for kids or classes if there are outbreaks among kids

By 2022-23 it will be largely back to normal but when you look at the flu stats for this year, it is very obvious we should be masking in winter forever for public health. So much decrease in other viruses due to masking and distance, it’s insane we ever just went around sick and unmasked in flu seasons.

That is what school will look like on a practical level. On a macro level, a lot of good teachers will leave and many who would have been great will never enter after seeing what teachers had to do this year. We will be facing a serious crisis in education. I am worried on behalf of my kids because they have many years of school left and fewer and fewer talented and dedicated teachers will be able to justify staying or ever joining the field. That plus entitled White parents who want to vote to defund schools out of anger and spite mean schools will really face a crisis in the next 5-7 years. The impact of this year will be like a tsunami. Deceptively slow rolling but disastrous in the aftermath


You sounded reasonable until the "entitled white parents" jab.


Agreed. I was feeling this post...then out of nowhere, an unnecessary slap.


It’s not an unnecessary jab. It’s reality. You don’t have to like it.


You do realize that’s who does most of the advocating because poor people tend not to advocate for their own interests and don’t know how to navigate the system. But you can keep throwing disadvantaged kids under the bus as they fall further behind so you can enjoy DL in your pajamas for a virus that’s not dangerous to kids.


Very few people on this forum are advocating for the disadvantaged. They are advocating for themselves.


That's how it works. Outspoken families advocate for better schools for themselves. The rest benefit.


The rest do not benefit. The system continues to only privilege White kids in middle to upper class districts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Dude, violent traitors just rioted at the Capitol.


And were denounced and charged with crimes. So anyone claiming Vienna moms will riot over schools is off the deep end.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. For 2021-22 if will be 5 day with masks and maybe period returns to DL for kids or classes if there are outbreaks among kids

By 2022-23 it will be largely back to normal but when you look at the flu stats for this year, it is very obvious we should be masking in winter forever for public health. So much decrease in other viruses due to masking and distance, it’s insane we ever just went around sick and unmasked in flu seasons.

That is what school will look like on a practical level. On a macro level, a lot of good teachers will leave and many who would have been great will never enter after seeing what teachers had to do this year. We will be facing a serious crisis in education. I am worried on behalf of my kids because they have many years of school left and fewer and fewer talented and dedicated teachers will be able to justify staying or ever joining the field. That plus entitled White parents who want to vote to defund schools out of anger and spite mean schools will really face a crisis in the next 5-7 years. The impact of this year will be like a tsunami. Deceptively slow rolling but disastrous in the aftermath


You sounded reasonable until the "entitled white parents" jab.


Agreed. I was feeling this post...then out of nowhere, an unnecessary slap.


It’s not an unnecessary jab. It’s reality. You don’t have to like it.


You do realize that’s who does most of the advocating because poor people tend not to advocate for their own interests and don’t know how to navigate the system. But you can keep throwing disadvantaged kids under the bus as they fall further behind so you can enjoy DL in your pajamas for a virus that’s not dangerous to kids.


Very few people on this forum are advocating for the disadvantaged. They are advocating for themselves.


+1

Families with limited resources HAVE spoken. They are not pushing to go back now. The entitled white people think they speak for them, but they don’t. They are just using them as props. So vile.


They didn’t care about their child’s education pre-Covid, and they still don’t. So what? Those of us that do care are allowed to say so.
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Anonymous wrote:I sure hope they offer DL for the kids that prefer it. I mean forever not just next year.


As a teacher, I am all for offering DL that is county based, not school based. It isn’t fair to any group to offer concurrent. In early summer they should ask parents to commit so they can figure how many teachers they need. Let’s say there are 400 5th graders in the county choosing to stay virtual. You would need about 16 teachers. Kids would be lumped together. No school based DL. High School should use virtual Virginia.


It needs to be County-based/district-wide and not out of every individual school for a virtual option to work. Problem there is that parents will complain, “where’s my German immersion? Where’s my AP basket weaving? Where’s X specialty class that’s only offered at a few schools?” They won’t accept a largely general-education curriculum at a county-wide virtual school.
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Anonymous wrote:Dude, violent traitors just rioted at the Capitol.


And were denounced and charged with crimes. So anyone claiming Vienna moms will riot over schools is off the deep end.


Pretty rich given that one of the instigators lives in Vienna.

See that LCPS nut job? Entitled white people don’t seem to hesitate to violently push their views on others.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dude, violent traitors just rioted at the Capitol.


And were denounced and charged with crimes. So anyone claiming Vienna moms will riot over schools is off the deep end.


Pretty rich given that one of the instigators lives in Vienna.

See that LCPS nut job? Entitled white people don’t seem to hesitate to violently push their views on others.


The LoCo father who used the f-word? No, not that f-word, the other one, the child-appropriate one.
Anonymous
In this whole discussion about what should or should not happen in fall, there is a significant piece missing. The protection provided by the vaccine only lasts 3-6 months, it’s not annual... Teachers who get their vaccine now will have no protection by the fall unless they get new shots in August.
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Anonymous wrote:In this whole discussion about what should or should not happen in fall, there is a significant piece missing. The protection provided by the vaccine only lasts 3-6 months, it’s not annual... Teachers who get their vaccine now will have no protection by the fall unless they get new shots in August.


Lasts only 3-6 months? Source please, else it's fake.
Anonymous
We see first hand that the one size fits all is a failure demand vouchers
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. For 2021-22 if will be 5 day with masks and maybe period returns to DL for kids or classes if there are outbreaks among kids

By 2022-23 it will be largely back to normal but when you look at the flu stats for this year, it is very obvious we should be masking in winter forever for public health. So much decrease in other viruses due to masking and distance, it’s insane we ever just went around sick and unmasked in flu seasons.

That is what school will look like on a practical level. On a macro level, a lot of good teachers will leave and many who would have been great will never enter after seeing what teachers had to do this year. We will be facing a serious crisis in education. I am worried on behalf of my kids because they have many years of school left and fewer and fewer talented and dedicated teachers will be able to justify staying or ever joining the field. That plus entitled White parents who want to vote to defund schools out of anger and spite mean schools will really face a crisis in the next 5-7 years. The impact of this year will be like a tsunami. Deceptively slow rolling but disastrous in the aftermath


I’m curious what doctors or scientists (people much smarter than me on this stuff) would say about masking kids all winter. Kids’ immune systems are really good and are learning. It’s important for them to be exposed to bacteria and even viruses so they can develop immunity. Masking kids all winter so they’re never exposed to anything seems like it would backfire in adulthood.


+1 Also masking while teaching definitely can impact learning. Think about how much facial expressions, tone of voice play into reading comprehension. Observing the shape of the mouth is important for phonics instruction. There are children with hearing loss who are very impacted by masking. For social skills, children learn to interpret facial expressions. This should all be taken into consideration before we just ask children to permanently mask in schools.
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