Mass exodus from public school?

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Anonymous wrote:You might also have some kids coming in from private to public because parents unfortunately lost income during the pandemic...

A vanishingly small number. The majority of income loss has been in the lowest-paid workers, who are unlikely to be in private school in the first place.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You might also have some kids coming in from private to public because parents unfortunately lost income during the pandemic...

A vanishingly small number. The majority of income loss has been in the lowest-paid workers, who are unlikely to be in private school in the first place.

I know of several families who have either already moved out of the District or plan to this spring. Most of them plan to go public. Realtors in Arlington, Montgomery or Fairfax counties will tell you that they are seeing many offers from DC families.

[Anonymous]

A lot of area families move one county over. None of those counties are open for IPL in any capacity right now so they aren't moving because of the IPL fight.

Realtors will tell you people move when pregnant; age 3; 2nd grade and then middle school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people say they will move / at least for the year.

But mass exodus may be unlikely but definitely more loss than they already have and that continues this year, I believe is possible.

Maybe. I’m a Fed with a junior. We’re here for my job. DH is remote for a west coast tech firm. But, I’m 90% certain post COVID I’ll be 100% remote. I was 60% before, but can do the job without an office. They have let a lot of our leased space go. If we aren’t back in the fall FT, DD wants to take English this summer and graduate, and we’ll let her. Our housing value is up. We’ll be living in Asheville next year and both remote working. DD will gap year. There is a plan. Otherwise, we’ll, let her finish and move. If I had kids younger than HS, that would be the plan. A lot of Feds and techies will never go back to the office. Why pay the DMV COL for crap schools?

COVID has changed how people work and go to school. The federal government gave up the Trump telework axing and Biden will make it permanent. We aren’t being allowed in our building even if we need to be there for at least six weeks because of Trump riot/ terrorism concerns.

COVID a is going to end with a workforce much more able to work offsite than they were. I haven’t been to my office in a year. My laptop died, they Fed exes it. My annual review was on Teams. Cost cutting post pandemic in the government is going to mean letting dead federal and tech office space no one has to go into in a year go. Lot of people moved here for jobs and schools. The schools have been a disaster and we can leave and keep the jobs. Why stay?

Yeah, for us it would be less about moving to private than just moving out of the area altogether. We don’t hate the DMV, but not sure it’s worth the price tag. The issues with the public schools are not going away and if anything the pandemic will make them worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You might also have some kids coming in from private to public because parents unfortunately lost income during the pandemic...

A vanishingly small number. The majority of income loss has been in the lowest-paid workers, who are unlikely to be in private school in the first place.

I know of several families who have either already moved out of the District or plan to this spring. Most of them plan to go public. Realtors in Arlington, Montgomery or Fairfax counties will tell you that they are seeing many offers from DC families.

Houses in my area (outside the beltway) are going fairly quickly. I was kind of surprised, but if what you say is true, then this could be why I am seeing these homes go fairly quickly.

[Anonymous]

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Yeah, for us it would be less about moving to private than just moving out of the area altogether. We don’t hate the DMV, but not sure it’s worth the price tag. The issues with the public schools are not going away and if anything the pandemic will make them worse.

But where would you move to where the schools are good and jobs are plentiful in your work area, and the weather is not horrible (ie FL and Houston).

We need to live in a major metro area due to jobs (I don't trust that the remote working is premanent long term), and I absolutely cannot handle too humid weather. DC area is bad enough. Places like Houston and FL are worse, so I would never move there.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think they are there yet. I imagine many parents applaud teachers for doing the best they can (ok, not on this board but the silent majority). However, I think if they don’t move to an in person option after the vaccine has been made available there may be some additional push back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If only.. then my kids' schools wouldn't be so over crowded.

Overcrowded? You should see class sizes back home.

https://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/docserver/eag_highlights-2014-24-en.pdf?expires=1612307187&id=id&accname=guest&checksum=D5C03C0BE9250F0D3921DE02A259BA2F

[Anonymous]

Using Covid is a great way to revamp publics. They get rid of parents who can financially afford privates and who are willing to homeschool, leaving the children who have no choice, allowing them to restructure public learning into the model they want without pushback. Of course those that leave will not see a tax break - they still need your money

[Anonymous]

There was an article out- maybe The Hill - a short time ago that said Catholic schools alone save 24 million in tax dollars.

[Anonymous]

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Look, the immense majority of public schools in the DC area are overcrowded.

A few families taking their kids out won't change that, and with the economic malaise that will continue to impact the lower and middle class for years, are you seriously saying that families can afford to do something else than FREE PUBLIC?

Spent too much time in the rarified bubble that is DCUM, haven't you?

Hello.. nothing is for free.. our real estate taxes are really high and include funding (covering up) public schools..

DP..no, MoCo real estate tax rates are relatively low compared to other MD counties, and some states, like NJ and TX.

Because we also pay a fairly large County income tax. Please don't call our taxes low. They aren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Laughing at the we will homeschool because too much DL parents

Dunno why. We did that, withdrawing one of our children in January.

As of December, FCPS elementary has gone from 98208 to 89885 students. About 2300 of those are kindergarteners -- 17% -- and I don't think anyone knows how many of these have parents planning on sending them to first grade, how many are redshirted, and how many are going to stay in private.

So parents who think that spending all day supporting DL with little learning taking place and unhappy children is rational, but quitting to homeschool for a few hours and actually providing an education is irrational?

[Anonymous]

We are leaving- 2 kids MS and HS in the wonderful FFX county. They grew up here but it's time to just move away from this crappy education. Senator Peterson was right on comparing this to a watered down version of an online education that you can't get your money back if dissatisfied. I know- don't let the door hit you on the way out..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are leaving- 2 kids MS and HS in the wonderful FFX county. They grew up here but it's time to just move away from this crappy education. Senator Peterson was right on comparing this to a watered down version of an online education that you can't get your money back if dissatisfied. I know- don't let the door hit you on the way out..

Where are you going?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Using Covid is a great way to revamp publics. They get rid of parents who can financially afford privates and who are willing to homeschool, leaving the children who have no choice, allowing them to restructure public learning into the model they want without pushback. Of course those that leave will not see a tax break - they still need your money

What model is that?!