Moving from Arlington to Bethesda(ish) for job--best school clusters?

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I hope you didn't hurt your back moving the goal posts or building straw men. I didn't say that any "horrible outcome" would befall a student at such schools. In fact, I explicitly said a kid can "get a good education at any MCPS school."

To the extent that you value things other than academics at a school and you believe that certain schools excel in those areas, that's great. You should go with what you prioritize. We were, however, discussing the academic component.

Please tell me more about student success on the AP Calculus A/B test due to the high level of intellectual discussion in class at Whitman or B-CC.

B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, and why isn't it? I mean, besides the obvious, that it doesn't start with a W. After all, Watkins Mill and Wheaton do start with a W but aren't W schools, while Churchill doesn't start with a W (and don't tell me that Churchill is short for Winston Churchill) but is.

For one it's the furthest down county of any HS in the county. In fact, it was originally part of the DCC until wealthy parents got the boundary gerrymandered to keep out the poors.

So whether you are a W school depends on where you are located? That is news to me.

I am particularly curious as to why the north/south distinction is critical. Last time I looked, the northern most schools in the county were not wildly well regarded. So, you have to north, but not too far north?

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, it is. Sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, it is. Sorry.

Why? I really don’t see it. People here seem to think of it as one tier down.

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Anonymous wrote:Prepare to be disappointed by MCPS regardless of where you end up. It's an inflexible, unthinking bureaucracy, where all attention goes to the lowest common denominator.

We are in one of the best elementary schools in Bethesda and I'm appalled at the the level of education.

Which elementary school would that be?

ES is pretty crappy at most MCPS schools.

We have had experiences in 3 MCPS elementary schools and completely disagree. Curriculum is the same whether the school is in Bethesda, Silver Spring, or Gaithersburg. I wonder what you parents are complaining about with the curriculum. Sorry that your "genius" kid isn't taking algebra in 3rd grade.
There are great teachers everywhere and I find that most teachers are amazing. The differences are the families and the administration. By the way the school that I loved loved the most out of the 3 was a FOCUS school with the highest FARMS rate because of its highly engaging and phoneminal Principal. The one I liked the least was the wealthy school with the higher test scores but the Principal was just so unfriendly and awful that it negatively impacted the school and community engagement. If you're strictly going by the school with the highest test scores, all it's telling you is that your kid will be going to school with a lot of kids who have highly educated and high income parents. Nothing else. It doesn't tell the rest of the story.

I think you mean "phenomenal" - i.e a good sales person who does good face-to-face. This is not necessarily a good administrator or leader of teachers. You see a good tour alone "doesn't tell the rest of the story".

Sorry but your assumption about me is wrong. I was on the PTA board in this school and in 1 of the other 2. I was very involved and aware of the school environment and how families and staff viewed the Principal. And you shouldn't discredit the importance of a good face to face. A Principal needs to be engaged and highly communicative with the school community..not just a good administrator.

Sure, it really helps to have a good face when there is so much BS going on behind the scenes. We've experienced that with a few Principals ourselves. However I'd never describe them as "phenominal" or even "phenomenal"

Well, sorry you haven't experienced being in a school where the principal was awesome all around. I have, and yes he was phenomenal and was loved by everyone. And good grief..get over the spelling mistake!

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Anonymous wrote:Prepare to be disappointed by MCPS regardless of where you end up. It's an inflexible, unthinking bureaucracy, where all attention goes to the lowest common denominator.

We are in one of the best elementary schools in Bethesda and I'm appalled at the the level of education.

Which elementary school would that be?

ES is pretty crappy at most MCPS schools.

We have had experiences in 3 MCPS elementary schools and completely disagree. Curriculum is the same whether the school is in Bethesda, Silver Spring, or Gaithersburg. I wonder what you parents are complaining about with the curriculum. Sorry that your "genius" kid isn't taking algebra in 3rd grade.
There are great teachers everywhere and I find that most teachers are amazing. The differences are the families and the administration. By the way the school that I loved loved the most out of the 3 was a FOCUS school with the highest FARMS rate because of its highly engaging and phoneminal Principal. The one I liked the least was the wealthy school with the higher test scores but the Principal was just so unfriendly and awful that it negatively impacted the school and community engagement. If you're strictly going by the school with the highest test scores, all it's telling you is that your kid will be going to school with a lot of kids who have highly educated and high income parents. Nothing else. It doesn't tell the rest of the story.

I think you mean "phenomenal" - i.e a good sales person who does good face-to-face. This is not necessarily a good administrator or leader of teachers. You see a good tour alone "doesn't tell the rest of the story".

Sorry but your assumption about me is wrong. I was on the PTA board in this school and in 1 of the other 2. I was very involved and aware of the school environment and how families and staff viewed the Principal. And you shouldn't discredit the importance of a good face to face. A Principal needs to be engaged and highly communicative with the school community..not just a good administrator.

Sure, it really helps to have a good face when there is so much BS going on behind the scenes. We've experienced that with a few Principals ourselves. However I'd never describe them as "phenominal" or even "phenomenal"

Well, sorry you haven't experienced being in a school where the principal was awesome all around. I have, and yes he was phenomenal and was loved by everyone. And good grief..get over the spelling mistake!

NP. spelling incorrectly like that doesn't reflect well on anything you say, makes you look like an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:Prepare to be disappointed by MCPS regardless of where you end up. It's an inflexible, unthinking bureaucracy, where all attention goes to the lowest common denominator.

We are in one of the best elementary schools in Bethesda and I'm appalled at the the level of education.

Which elementary school would that be?

ES is pretty crappy at most MCPS schools.

We have had experiences in 3 MCPS elementary schools and completely disagree. Curriculum is the same whether the school is in Bethesda, Silver Spring, or Gaithersburg. I wonder what you parents are complaining about with the curriculum. Sorry that your "genius" kid isn't taking algebra in 3rd grade.
There are great teachers everywhere and I find that most teachers are amazing. The differences are the families and the administration. By the way the school that I loved loved the most out of the 3 was a FOCUS school with the highest FARMS rate because of its highly engaging and phoneminal Principal. The one I liked the least was the wealthy school with the higher test scores but the Principal was just so unfriendly and awful that it negatively impacted the school and community engagement. If you're strictly going by the school with the highest test scores, all it's telling you is that your kid will be going to school with a lot of kids who have highly educated and high income parents. Nothing else. It doesn't tell the rest of the story.

I think you mean "phenomenal" - i.e a good sales person who does good face-to-face. This is not necessarily a good administrator or leader of teachers. You see a good tour alone "doesn't tell the rest of the story".

Sorry but your assumption about me is wrong. I was on the PTA board in this school and in 1 of the other 2. I was very involved and aware of the school environment and how families and staff viewed the Principal. And you shouldn't discredit the importance of a good face to face. A Principal needs to be engaged and highly communicative with the school community..not just a good administrator.

Sure, it really helps to have a good face when there is so much BS going on behind the scenes. We've experienced that with a few Principals ourselves. However I'd never describe them as "phenominal" or even "phenomenal"

Well, sorry you haven't experienced being in a school where the principal was awesome all around. I have, and yes he was phenomenal and was loved by everyone. And good grief..get over the spelling mistake!

NP. spelling incorrectly like that doesn't reflect well on anything you say, makes you look like an idiot.

Good lord! Can you get off your high horse? English isn't everyone's first language, and its spelling is notoriously difficult. (And "such as that", asshole)

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Prepare to be disappointed by MCPS regardless of where you end up. It's an inflexible, unthinking bureaucracy, where all attention goes to the lowest common denominator.

We are in one of the best elementary schools in Bethesda and I'm appalled at the the level of education.

Which elementary school would that be?

ES is pretty crappy at most MCPS schools.

We have had experiences in 3 MCPS elementary schools and completely disagree. Curriculum is the same whether the school is in Bethesda, Silver Spring, or Gaithersburg. I wonder what you parents are complaining about with the curriculum. Sorry that your "genius" kid isn't taking algebra in 3rd grade.
There are great teachers everywhere and I find that most teachers are amazing. The differences are the families and the administration. By the way the school that I loved loved the most out of the 3 was a FOCUS school with the highest FARMS rate because of its highly engaging and phoneminal Principal. The one I liked the least was the wealthy school with the higher test scores but the Principal was just so unfriendly and awful that it negatively impacted the school and community engagement. If you're strictly going by the school with the highest test scores, all it's telling you is that your kid will be going to school with a lot of kids who have highly educated and high income parents. Nothing else. It doesn't tell the rest of the story.

I think you mean "phenomenal" - i.e a good sales person who does good face-to-face. This is not necessarily a good administrator or leader of teachers. You see a good tour alone "doesn't tell the rest of the story".

Sorry but your assumption about me is wrong. I was on the PTA board in this school and in 1 of the other 2. I was very involved and aware of the school environment and how families and staff viewed the Principal. And you shouldn't discredit the importance of a good face to face. A Principal needs to be engaged and highly communicative with the school community..not just a good administrator.

Sure, it really helps to have a good face when there is so much BS going on behind the scenes. We've experienced that with a few Principals ourselves. However I'd never describe them as "phenominal" or even "phenomenal"

Well, sorry you haven't experienced being in a school where the principal was awesome all around. I have, and yes he was phenomenal and was loved by everyone. And good grief..get over the spelling mistake!

NP. spelling incorrectly like that doesn't reflect well on anything you say, makes you look like an idiot.

And you butting in to dwell on a spelling mistake and resorting to name calling, rather than making a comment that is related to the discussion, makes you a nasty irrelevant person.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, it is. Sorry.

Why? I really don’t see it. People here seem to think of it as one tier down.

B-CC is a fine school but it was never a W. If anything Wheaton is the new W.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, it is. Sorry.

Why? I really don’t see it. People here seem to think of it as one tier down.

B-CC is a fine school but it was never a W. If anything Wheaton is the new W.

Totally - B-CC isn't segregated enough to be a true W.

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OP - The rational ones of us in the DCUM are sorry that this thread has devolved. The reality is that you can get a quality education at any school in MCPS. Do some schools have higher test scores than others, yes. Do some schools have better athletics, yes. But overall, with engaged parents a student can get a quality education at any school in the district. And by quality, I mean as good or better than probably 80-90% of the nation. Public schools are not private schools and private schools are not inherently better than public schools.

Find 2-3 areas where you would ideally like to live, then about the schools (beyond their test scores) and other opportunities and amenities of the area. Then make your decision.

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, it is. Sorry.

Why? I really don’t see it. People here seem to think of it as one tier down.

B-CC is a fine school but it was never a W. If anything Wheaton is the new W.

Wheaton is one the most ghetto schools in all of MoCo up there with gaithersburg, Kennedy or Einstein

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Anonymous wrote:B-CC not a W school.

Yeah, it is. Sorry.

Why? I really don’t see it. People here seem to think of it as one tier down.

B-CC is a fine school but it was never a W. If anything Wheaton is the new W.

Wheaton is one the most ghetto schools in all of MoCo up there with gaithersburg, Kennedy or Einstein

DCUM's gotta DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:OP - The rational ones of us in the DCUM are sorry that this thread has devolved. The reality is that you can get a quality education at any school in MCPS. Do some schools have higher test scores than others, yes. Do some schools have better athletics, yes. But overall, with engaged parents a student can get a quality education at any school in the district. And by quality, I mean as good or better than probably 80-90% of the nation. Public schools are not private schools and private schools are not inherently better than public schools.

Find 2-3 areas where you would ideally like to live, then about the schools (beyond their test scores) and other opportunities and amenities of the area. Then make your decision.

So you don't think peer group is a priority?

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Anonymous wrote:OP - The rational ones of us in the DCUM are sorry that this thread has devolved. The reality is that you can get a quality education at any school in MCPS. Do some schools have higher test scores than others, yes. Do some schools have better athletics, yes. But overall, with engaged parents a student can get a quality education at any school in the district. And by quality, I mean as good or better than probably 80-90% of the nation. Public schools are not private schools and private schools are not inherently better than public schools.

Find 2-3 areas where you would ideally like to live, then about the schools (beyond their test scores) and other opportunities and amenities of the area. Then make your decision.

So you don't think peer group is a priority?

Please define what you mean by "peer group".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP - The rational ones of us in the DCUM are sorry that this thread has devolved. The reality is that you can get a quality education at any school in MCPS. Do some schools have higher test scores than others, yes. Do some schools have better athletics, yes. But overall, with engaged parents a student can get a quality education at any school in the district. And by quality, I mean as good or better than probably 80-90% of the nation. Public schools are not private schools and private schools are not inherently better than public schools.

Find 2-3 areas where you would ideally like to live, then about the schools (beyond their test scores) and other opportunities and amenities of the area. Then make your decision.

So you don't think peer group is a priority?

Please define what you mean by "peer group".

Rich, living in fancy homes, vacationing, parents in jobs that have status.