term 2 charter school updates

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our charter showed the entire community the results of their survey. The majority of families do not want to go back to in-person. I make this point because based on the feedback loop on DCUM one might think the majority of families are in favor of going back. At least at our charter that is not the case. Those numbers skew even more in favor of continuing DL when you exclude PK3-K.

Parents of 3-5 year-olds think the world revolves around them and their snowflakes. That was true before COVID and will be true long after. But you don't make public policy decisions based on the loudest voices representing a tiny fraction of the impacted population. None of this is to say that parents of 4 year-olds shouldn't advocate for their kids or want what they want. But this mentality that somehow schools that don't bend to their whim are negligent or behaving in defiance of logic is just crazy talk.


Was this a recent survey? I'd be shocked if a survey today showed that.


I am in no way surprised that you would "be shocked" that survey results would show the opposite of your belief. That's the problem with your feedback loop. The survey was conducted within the past 21 days.

I do not doubt your belief that you want your kids back in school. And I do not doubt that you have friends who agree with you. And I do not doubt that DCUM feeds into your belief that this is a no-brainer. But it turns out that the data (at least at our charter) doesn't agree with your expectation.


Yeah I’d like to see the questions and answers.

I think the experience of private schools shows most parents are optimg for in person if given the chance. The number will only grow as school districts elsewhere open successfully.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our charter showed the entire community the results of their survey. The majority of families do not want to go back to in-person. I make this point because based on the feedback loop on DCUM one might think the majority of families are in favor of going back. At least at our charter that is not the case. Those numbers skew even more in favor of continuing DL when you exclude PK3-K.

Parents of 3-5 year-olds think the world revolves around them and their snowflakes. That was true before COVID and will be true long after. But you don't make public policy decisions based on the loudest voices representing a tiny fraction of the impacted population. None of this is to say that parents of 4 year-olds shouldn't advocate for their kids or want what they want. But this mentality that somehow schools that don't bend to their whim are negligent or behaving in defiance of logic is just crazy talk.


I completely agree that schools can't bend to the will of the most vocal parents, especially when those tend to be higher SES and white parents. At the same time, I saw our charter school's data (from the summer, nothing new released to inform term 2) and the majority wanted either hybrid or 4 days a week.


the most vocal parents are the ones who answer surveys. I’d like to know the completion rates of the surveys.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our charter showed the entire community the results of their survey. The majority of families do not want to go back to in-person. I make this point because based on the feedback loop on DCUM one might think the majority of families are in favor of going back. At least at our charter that is not the case. Those numbers skew even more in favor of continuing DL when you exclude PK3-K.

Parents of 3-5 year-olds think the world revolves around them and their snowflakes. That was true before COVID and will be true long after. But you don't make public policy decisions based on the loudest voices representing a tiny fraction of the impacted population. None of this is to say that parents of 4 year-olds shouldn't advocate for their kids or want what they want. But this mentality that somehow schools that don't bend to their whim are negligent or behaving in defiance of logic is just crazy talk.


I completely agree that schools can't bend to the will of the most vocal parents, especially when those tend to be higher SES and white parents. At the same time, I saw our charter school's data (from the summer, nothing new released to inform term 2) and the majority wanted either hybrid or 4 days a week.


the most vocal parents are the ones who answer surveys. I’d like to know the completion rates of the surveys.


Yes, of course. But there was a big push for this one so much higher than a usual short turn around feedback seeking effort. I understand the data might not sync with what you want but the data suggested well over half of parents would want in person (at least that's what they said this summer).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our charter showed the entire community the results of their survey. The majority of families do not want to go back to in-person. I make this point because based on the feedback loop on DCUM one might think the majority of families are in favor of going back. At least at our charter that is not the case. Those numbers skew even more in favor of continuing DL when you exclude PK3-K.

Parents of 3-5 year-olds think the world revolves around them and their snowflakes. That was true before COVID and will be true long after. But you don't make public policy decisions based on the loudest voices representing a tiny fraction of the impacted population. None of this is to say that parents of 4 year-olds shouldn't advocate for their kids or want what they want. But this mentality that somehow schools that don't bend to their whim are negligent or behaving in defiance of logic is just crazy talk.


I completely agree that schools can't bend to the will of the most vocal parents, especially when those tend to be higher SES and white parents. At the same time, I saw our charter school's data (from the summer, nothing new released to inform term 2) and the majority wanted either hybrid or 4 days a week.


the most vocal parents are the ones who answer surveys. I’d like to know the completion rates of the surveys.


Yes, of course. But there was a big push for this one so much higher than a usual short turn around feedback seeking effort. I understand the data might not sync with what you want but the data suggested well over half of parents would want in person (at least that's what they said this summer).


Why is this “majority rules”? if 49% of people want their kids in school, that’s a big deal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are things at Sojourner MS going? They've been fully open, right?


Truth is doing well so far. There are 20 kids that go in person, full time. They check temps and symptoms at the door and have strict social distancing. Breakfast and lunch are eaten outside in the courtyard(not sure how they will handle this in Winter).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are things at Sojourner MS going? They've been fully open, right?


Truth is doing well so far. There are 20 kids that go in person, full time. They check temps and symptoms at the door and have strict social distancing. Breakfast and lunch are eaten outside in the courtyard(not sure how they will handle this in Winter).


What is the total enrollment? How is it going budget-wise?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our charter showed the entire community the results of their survey. The majority of families do not want to go back to in-person. I make this point because based on the feedback loop on DCUM one might think the majority of families are in favor of going back. At least at our charter that is not the case. Those numbers skew even more in favor of continuing DL when you exclude PK3-K.

Parents of 3-5 year-olds think the world revolves around them and their snowflakes. That was true before COVID and will be true long after. But you don't make public policy decisions based on the loudest voices representing a tiny fraction of the impacted population. None of this is to say that parents of 4 year-olds shouldn't advocate for their kids or want what they want. But this mentality that somehow schools that don't bend to their whim are negligent or behaving in defiance of logic is just crazy talk.


I completely agree that schools can't bend to the will of the most vocal parents, especially when those tend to be higher SES and white parents. At the same time, I saw our charter school's data (from the summer, nothing new released to inform term 2) and the majority wanted either hybrid or 4 days a week.


the most vocal parents are the ones who answer surveys. I’d like to know the completion rates of the surveys.


In excess of 75%. They showed us all the data. By all means, keep digging for reasons why the data simply can't be right.
Anonymous
The question about completion rates is a fair one that should be asked. It's good that your schools survey had a great responses rate.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our charter showed the entire community the results of their survey. The majority of families do not want to go back to in-person. I make this point because based on the feedback loop on DCUM one might think the majority of families are in favor of going back. At least at our charter that is not the case. Those numbers skew even more in favor of continuing DL when you exclude PK3-K.

Parents of 3-5 year-olds think the world revolves around them and their snowflakes. That was true before COVID and will be true long after. But you don't make public policy decisions based on the loudest voices representing a tiny fraction of the impacted population. None of this is to say that parents of 4 year-olds shouldn't advocate for their kids or want what they want. But this mentality that somehow schools that don't bend to their whim are negligent or behaving in defiance of logic is just crazy talk.


I completely agree that schools can't bend to the will of the most vocal parents, especially when those tend to be higher SES and white parents. At the same time, I saw our charter school's data (from the summer, nothing new released to inform term 2) and the majority wanted either hybrid or 4 days a week.


the most vocal parents are the ones who answer surveys. I’d like to know the completion rates of the surveys.


In excess of 75%. They showed us all the data. By all means, keep digging for reasons why the data simply can't be right.


I mean, keep digging for reasons to disbelieve that many parents are in favor of returning. Including at your school. We look around and see it being done safely.
Anonymous
I get the sense that at our school the families and communities who have been hit harder by Covid do not feel safe returning to school in person.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How are things at Sojourner MS going? They've been fully open, right?


Truth is doing well so far. There are 20 kids that go in person, full time. They check temps and symptoms at the door and have strict social distancing. Breakfast and lunch are eaten outside in the courtyard(not sure how they will handle this in Winter).


What is the total enrollment? How is it going budget-wise?


They maxed out their enrollment numbers.
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