FCPS Teachers - would you be ok with kids skipping morning meeting/afternoon wrap up?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, what do parents want? It seems there will be complaining either way. There were a ton of complaints that the time in the spring was not enough live time. The county gives you more live time and parents are still mad. You can’t have it both ways. The school district cannot please everyone!

Please, don't be disingenuous - you know what parents want. They want their kid to learn Math, LA and social studies. Everything else is just to keep the others employed (pe, coaches, specials). Nothing wrong with that since we are in a pandemic... it doesn't mean we want and will make our children sit through 6 hours of DL just so p.e teachers and some others feel essential.

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We aren’t talking about PE. We’re talking about it morning meeting, which is done with your child’s teacher and class. If you’re not going to do it, ok. But don’t turn around and then blame school or teacher for DL not being good for your kid. You’ll be opting them out of the very things that will make it more tolerable and build connections with peers and give the teachers the chance to get to know them. I can’t effectively teach a kid I know nothing about. DL *will* be less enjoyable and less effective for your child if you opt out of these aspects. Again, your choice, just understand the consequences of the choice.

Young ES kids building connections with peers over Zoom? This is actually a premise? They've not really thought through any of this apparently.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, what do parents want? It seems there will be complaining either way. There were a ton of complaints that the time in the spring was not enough live time. The county gives you more live time and parents are still mad. You can’t have it both ways. The school district cannot please everyone!

Please, don't be disingenuous - you know what parents want. They want their kid to learn Math, LA and social studies. Everything else is just to keep the others employed (pe, coaches, specials). Nothing wrong with that since we are in a pandemic... it doesn't mean we want and will make our children sit through 6 hours of DL just so p.e teachers and some others feel essential.

+1

We aren’t talking about PE. We’re talking about it morning meeting, which is done with your child’s teacher and class. If you’re not going to do it, ok. But don’t turn around and then blame school or teacher for DL not being good for your kid. You’ll be opting them out of the very things that will make it more tolerable and build connections with peers and give the teachers the chance to get to know them. I can’t effectively teach a kid I know nothing about. DL *will* be less enjoyable and less effective for your child if you opt out of these aspects. Again, your choice, just understand the consequences of the choice.

Young ES kids building connections with peers over Zoom? This is actually a premise? They've not really thought through any of this apparently.

Welcome to FCPS, where we talk about everything in rosy, glowing terms, and make it all sound wonderful even when it sucks. Your child will built peer connections through robust interactive activities and small group work that will help create a strong sense of community in his or her virtual learning environment. If you say anything else, the FCPS Though Police will get you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, what do parents want? It seems there will be complaining either way. There were a ton of complaints that the time in the spring was not enough live time. The county gives you more live time and parents are still mad. You can’t have it both ways. The school district cannot please everyone!

Please, don't be disingenuous - you know what parents want. They want their kid to learn Math, LA and social studies. Everything else is just to keep the others employed (pe, coaches, specials). Nothing wrong with that since we are in a pandemic... it doesn't mean we want and will make our children sit through 6 hours of DL just so p.e teachers and some others feel essential.

+1

We aren’t talking about PE. We’re talking about it morning meeting, which is done with your child’s teacher and class. If you’re not going to do it, ok. But don’t turn around and then blame school or teacher for DL not being good for your kid. You’ll be opting them out of the very things that will make it more tolerable and build connections with peers and give the teachers the chance to get to know them. I can’t effectively teach a kid I know nothing about. DL *will* be less enjoyable and less effective for your child if you opt out of these aspects. Again, your choice, just understand the consequences of the choice.

Young ES kids building connections with peers over Zoom? This is actually a premise? They've not really thought through any of this apparently.

Welcome to FCPS, where we talk about everything in rosy, glowing terms, and make it all sound wonderful even when it sucks. Your child will built peer connections through robust interactive activities and small group work that will help create a strong sense of community in his or her virtual learning environment. If you say anything else, the FCPS Though Police will get you.

Agreed. Your level of satire was actually only level higher that the PP teacher's actual response.

[Anonymous]

This is what is so frustrating. Teachers are certainly the experts on pedagogy. But those of us who are parents also know children, specifically our own. When you say something that sounds unbelievable - zoom morning meeting is essential to your kids success - it doesn’t pass the sniff test. I agree that morning meeting is valuable community building time in person. But those of us who have group family zoom sessions and watch out kids wander off even though they live their grandparents and cousins know this is just nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what is so frustrating. Teachers are certainly the experts on pedagogy. But those of us who are parents also know children, specifically our own. When you say something that sounds unbelievable - zoom morning meeting is essential to your kids success - it doesn’t pass the sniff test. I agree that morning meeting is valuable community building time in person. But those of us who have group family zoom sessions and watch out kids wander off even though they live their grandparents and cousins know this is just nonsense.

The PP perfectly encapsulates why this has no chance of working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, what do parents want? It seems there will be complaining either way. There were a ton of complaints that the time in the spring was not enough live time. The county gives you more live time and parents are still mad. You can’t have it both ways. The school district cannot please everyone!

Please, don't be disingenuous - you know what parents want. They want their kid to learn Math, LA and social studies. Everything else is just to keep the others employed (pe, coaches, specials). Nothing wrong with that since we are in a pandemic... it doesn't mean we want and will make our children sit through 6 hours of DL just so p.e teachers and some others feel essential.

I disagree with this. You have a ton of parents on here saying their kid will be just logging in for math. I get the not wanting to do specials and wrap up. I don’t get why you would have a kid miss LA and SS/Sci

No you don't. 1 person said it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a first grader here. We’re planning to be online for all sessions, but I do think schools will have to be a bit forgiving and flexible for conflicts at times. For instance, what about families with younger children who are going to attend preschool in person? We made the decision, for various reasons, to send our four-year-old to preschool this year. Depending on the start times of both schools, we may have a conflict two days a week where my first grader is supposed to be logging on while I’m dropping off my preschooler. It may just end up being a situation where she has to miss a few minutes of morning meeting.

OP here - this was pretty much the reason I asked this question.

Someone asked this on our PTA facebook page. Many, many parents are suggesting using cell phone as a hot spot and bringing an iPad for the walk/drive to preschool drop-off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My dc is logging in for math instruction and maybe language arts if it is well done. That’s it. I don’t really care what the teacher thinks.

Ok but after 15 absences, your child will be unenrolled from school.

Yeah no. Although if you wonder why there's anger, just look at comments like these.

What do you mean, "no?" This is indeed exactly what will happen. Public school has compulsory attendance, not just for whatever the entitled parent feels the need to access as if it's an educational buffet.

If your child does not meet the attendance criteria -- yes, even in DL -- they will be disenrolled. So if that's your plan, withdraw now and homeschool. Done.

Lmao if you think this will happen. Maybe, if a parent doesn’t log a child in for months. But no one is disenrolling kids who show up on occasion. FCPS does not want to admit this failure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what is so frustrating. Teachers are certainly the experts on pedagogy. But those of us who are parents also know children, specifically our own. When you say something that sounds unbelievable - zoom morning meeting is essential to your kids success - it doesn’t pass the sniff test. I agree that morning meeting is valuable community building time in person. But those of us who have group family zoom sessions and watch out kids wander off even though they live their grandparents and cousins know this is just nonsense.

Honestly, then don’t do it. Don’t ask will the teacher care. It doesn’t matter. You’ve decided you don’t value this and won’t make your kid do it. That’s your choice. Why come here for approval then?

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Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. IF a child is present for math, and language arts, and social studies, who the hell cares about morning meeting or whatever the heck they do in the afternoon and especially specials. This is such a joke!

Well you have parents on here saying their kid will only do math. They clearly don’t care about LA or SS/Science

Those parents are highly likely to be supplementing skipped subjects with a higher quality in person version.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what is so frustrating. Teachers are certainly the experts on pedagogy. But those of us who are parents also know children, specifically our own. When you say something that sounds unbelievable - zoom morning meeting is essential to your kids success - it doesn’t pass the sniff test. I agree that morning meeting is valuable community building time in person. But those of us who have group family zoom sessions and watch out kids wander off even though they live their grandparents and cousins know this is just nonsense.

Honestly, then don’t do it. Don’t ask will the teacher care. It doesn’t matter. You’ve decided you don’t value this and won’t make your kid do it. That’s your choice. Why come here for approval then?

Unless it was the OP, this poster isn't asking for approval. They're just pointing out that the teacher's response lacked any degree of credibility.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is what is so frustrating. Teachers are certainly the experts on pedagogy. But those of us who are parents also know children, specifically our own. When you say something that sounds unbelievable - zoom morning meeting is essential to your kids success - it doesn’t pass the sniff test. I agree that morning meeting is valuable community building time in person. But those of us who have group family zoom sessions and watch out kids wander off even though they live their grandparents and cousins know this is just nonsense.

Honestly, then don’t do it. Don’t ask will the teacher care. It doesn’t matter. You’ve decided you don’t value this and won’t make your kid do it. That’s your choice. Why come here for approval then?

Unless it was the OP, this poster isn't asking for approval. They're just pointing out that the teacher's response lacked any degree of credibility.

It doesn’t lack credibility because it doesn’t apply to her one kid. Some kids hate zoom and will walk off. Most kids will do that when it’s their boring family on zoom. A teacher is trained to facilitate conversation and dialogue among the kids on different topics to build community. Will some kids still be bored? Yes. does that mean it doesn’t have value or it won’t be meaningful for some kids, no.

[Anonymous]

Students are only "disenrolled" after 15 consecutive full-day absences. That is because local systems have to report this to VDOE and lose per-pupil funding for the student.

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Anonymous wrote:The question says it all.

And it says a lot about you, OP.

What does it say about me?

You know the answer. Why post here? Just do your own thing and let your kids fail or succeed, it's on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Students are only "disenrolled" after 15 consecutive full-day absences. That is because local systems have to report this to VDOE and lose per-pupil funding for the student.

That’s good to know. I’m assuming unexcused absences? That I just need to call once ever 3 weeks and say my kid is throwing up? Or do they need to. Log in once every 3 weeks.