Did this happened in DC.

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As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.

There is a recording of a woman who was driving in Fredericksburg with her toddler in the car and she ended up on the wrong street where there was protesting. She got boxed in by protesters who were hitting her car. She called 911 as she feared for her toddler's life. The 911 call is on the internet but I could not readily find it. The 911 dispatcher told
her the police could not assist her and she would have to call the mayor's office. The driver started crying as protesters were pounding on her car. She was able to inch forward
and finally turn off but I'm sure it was scary and an honest mistake by the driver.

PP here:
That 911 operator was an idiot. If you’re caught in a protest, you pull over the car, turn off your engine, and lock the doors. You sit there for 10-15 minutes until the protest moves on. They were slamming on her car because she was moving closer to pedestrian bodies and moving with the crowd. Just because you feel nervous, doesn’t give a driver the right to continue driving into a sea of pedestrians.

This probably should be explicitly taught in drivers’ Ed in the DC area.

In the Georgetown incident last night, it seems the issue is that protestors kept moving with her car so she couldn’t move away from the crowd. It was a dumb move by the protestors.

Pull over, turn off the enginer, in this heat and in the midst of these awful wackos? With a toddler in the car? No way!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what happened?

As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.

There is a recording of a woman who was driving in Fredericksburg with her toddler in the car and she ended up on the wrong street where there was protesting. She got boxed in by protesters who were hitting her car. She called 911 as she feared for her toddler's life. The 911 call is on the internet but I could not readily find it. The 911 dispatcher told
her the police could not assist her and she would have to call the mayor's office. The driver started crying as protesters were pounding on her car. She was able to inch forward
and finally turn off but I'm sure it was scary and an honest mistake by the driver.

PP here:
That 911 operator was an idiot. If you’re caught in a protest, you pull over the car, turn off your engine, and lock the doors. You sit there for 10-15 minutes until the protest moves on. They were slamming on her car because she was moving closer to pedestrian bodies and moving with the crowd. Just because you feel nervous, doesn’t give a driver the right to continue driving into a sea of pedestrians.

This probably should be explicitly taught in drivers’ Ed in the DC area.

In the Georgetown incident last night, it seems the issue is that protestors kept moving with her car so she couldn’t move away from the crowd. It was a dumb move by the protestors.

Pull over, turn off the enginer, in this heat and in the midst of these awful wackos? With a toddler in the car? No way!

Well I've got to get to Georgetown hospital in a few days for a potentially life saving surgery. If protestors block my way I'm sorry but it's their life or mine, and it's going to be theirs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what happened?

As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.

There is a recording of a woman who was driving in Fredericksburg with her toddler in the car and she ended up on the wrong street where there was protesting. She got boxed in by protesters who were hitting her car. She called 911 as she feared for her toddler's life. The 911 call is on the internet but I could not readily find it. The 911 dispatcher told
her the police could not assist her and she would have to call the mayor's office. The driver started crying as protesters were pounding on her car. She was able to inch forward
and finally turn off but I'm sure it was scary and an honest mistake by the driver.

PP here:
That 911 operator was an idiot. If you’re caught in a protest, you pull over the car, turn off your engine, and lock the doors. You sit there for 10-15 minutes until the protest moves on. They were slamming on her car because she was moving closer to pedestrian bodies and moving with the crowd. Just because you feel nervous, doesn’t give a driver the right to continue driving into a sea of pedestrians.

This probably should be explicitly taught in drivers’ Ed in the DC area.

In the Georgetown incident last night, it seems the issue is that protestors kept moving with her car so she couldn’t move away from the crowd. It was a dumb move by the protestors.

This post reminds me of directions to pilots and flight attendants pre-911. Back then, they were told not to fight back and to basically allow hijackers to do their thing. As we know, that has drastically changed.

I have seen enough video of rioters across the nation breaking car windows with metal poles or large rocks, or other things being used as weapons. And, then, trying to drag the occupants out of the car. There is no way in hell I would stop my car if I found myself in the middle of a mob.

This site recommends to keep moving: https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/surviving-mob-attacks-on-your-vehicle

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Anonymous wrote:The nature of protestors is that you won’t agree with all of them. But that doesn’t make it okay to drive through a roadblock or use your car to move people. You gotta just go another way. And listen, it sucks. I recently spent 45 min trapped on NY ave because of some sort of skateboard protest in the 3rd st tunnel. But that doesn’t mean I would have been justified to plow through people with my car. You can argue in the appropriate public forum about when and how police should close or clear roads during protests but you can’t decide to drive through people if they’re blocking you. Pedestrians have the right of way even when they’re blocking the road and inconveniencing you.

Nope. The nature of protest is you get a permit. I have protested many times, with a permit. If you dont get a permit and block people going about their business, you are a jerk.

Even if you get a permit you may be a jerk to some people. I don't really like the road races that get permits and legally tie up access around town. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Either way, unless you're MPD you don't get to decide what to do about it.

Except for a march, most permitted demonstrations would not be permitted to block roads. You would be in a park or asked to keep moving on a sidewalk. Blocking roads is a jerk move, and illegal. A lot of people with a lot of causes live in and visit DC. If everyone protested unpermitted it would wreak havoc on daily life when it resumes its flow.

Hello, have you ever visited DC? EVERYTHING blocks roads here. Honestly the most irritating one is the Rock an Roll marathon but all the marathons are a big PITA for drivers. Protests also. Motorcycle parades, whatever. The point is I don't get to drive through them if I decide I don't like them or if they don't have a permit.

All of those are permitted events. The road closures are published in advance. Are you being purposefully obtuse? These permitless rpad blockers are creating dangerous conditions for everyone, which is their goal apparently. They should be arrested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what happened?

As I understand it, the woman in the car drove to Wisconsin Ave and encountered the protest. She wanted to get away from the crowd, so she drove thru a gas station as this would allow her to access another street. The crowd moved to keep her boxed in and unable to drive thru the gas station. They wanted the driver to be “disrupted” by the protest. The streets in Georgetown are very narrow, so there likely would not be an opportunity to make a u-turn and go another route. She apparently drove slow and bumped protestors, who were demanding that she stop her car. It seems like she got a block away, encountered the police, and that’s when everyone was detained.

We live near here and the protest passed in front of our house last night around 9pm. It was pretty small - maybe only 20-30 people. They were blasting music, chanting, and generally peaceful. I have no issue with the protests or marching in streets.

My only issue is that they wouldn’t allow this woman to leave peacefully. They purposefully boxed her in and wouldn’t let her go another direction, away from the protest. That’s BS and just causes more problems.

There is a recording of a woman who was driving in Fredericksburg with her toddler in the car and she ended up on the wrong street where there was protesting. She got boxed in by protesters who were hitting her car. She called 911 as she feared for her toddler's life. The 911 call is on the internet but I could not readily find it. The 911 dispatcher told
her the police could not assist her and she would have to call the mayor's office. The driver started crying as protesters were pounding on her car. She was able to inch forward
and finally turn off but I'm sure it was scary and an honest mistake by the driver.

PP here:
That 911 operator was an idiot. If you’re caught in a protest, you pull over the car, turn off your engine, and lock the doors. You sit there for 10-15 minutes until the protest moves on. They were slamming on her car because she was moving closer to pedestrian bodies and moving with the crowd. Just because you feel nervous, doesn’t give a driver the right to continue driving into a sea of pedestrians.

This probably should be explicitly taught in drivers’ Ed in the DC area.

In the Georgetown incident last night, it seems the issue is that protestors kept moving with her car so she couldn’t move away from the crowd. It was a dumb move by the protestors.

This post reminds me of directions to pilots and flight attendants pre-911. Back then, they were told not to fight back and to basically allow hijackers to do their thing. As we know, that has drastically changed.

I have seen enough video of rioters across the nation breaking car windows with metal poles or large rocks, or other things being used as weapons. And, then, trying to drag the occupants out of the car. There is no way in hell I would stop my car if I found myself in the middle of a mob.

This site recommends to keep moving: https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/surviving-mob-attacks-on-your-vehicle

Did you even read your own link?

It says to stop and turn-around if you see protests. That’s the most important piece of advice. Avoid the protest road at all costs, do not approach the crowd.

The writer also says to stop your car, if the crowd is peaceful. He says only to use the car as a battering ram, if your life is in danger. Drivers who approach protest crowds with a moving vehicle are increasing the danger for everyone. Go another route.

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Anonymous wrote:Makes me want to vote for Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:The nature of protestors is that you won’t agree with all of them. But that doesn’t make it okay to drive through a roadblock or use your car to move people. You gotta just go another way. And listen, it sucks. I recently spent 45 min trapped on NY ave because of some sort of skateboard protest in the 3rd st tunnel. But that doesn’t mean I would have been justified to plow through people with my car. You can argue in the appropriate public forum about when and how police should close or clear roads during protests but you can’t decide to drive through people if they’re blocking you. Pedestrians have the right of way even when they’re blocking the road and inconveniencing you.

The driver did try to “just go another way” and she got chased down by a group of people who surrounded her car, covered her windshield, banged on her window. You’d just sit there and obey the mob? She didn’t plow through people until they surrounded her car and wouldn’t move when she tried to leave. Did you even watch the videos?

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This mob has captured themselves + their misdeeds on video/twitter and should be arrested. What does Newsham/Mayor/City Council say? This potty-mouth infantile behavior is absurd, but also dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.

Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.

DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.

+1. Joe is so weak, his strings are being pulled from the left. A Biden win would be a victory for this set.

Zzzzz. All of this is happening in Trump’s America. Why doesn’t he start a dialogue with protestors?

Haha. Good one. You don't "dialogue" with fruitcakes, PP. Haven't you learned that from all your time on DCUM?

Nationwide protests are Trump’s carnage. He owns it, just like how he owns COVID.

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The Obama/Biden administration faced the protests and riots in Ferguson and Baltimore head on. They opened a constructive dialogue with the rioters and protesters in both situations. And they coolly brought an end to those unfortunate situations with no loss of life.

I’m not seeing that here at all with Drumpf. All I see is a fat racist who would rather play golf than engage with his constituents.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The nature of protestors is that you won’t agree with all of them. But that doesn’t make it okay to drive through a roadblock or use your car to move people. You gotta just go another way. And listen, it sucks. I recently spent 45 min trapped on NY ave because of some sort of skateboard protest in the 3rd st tunnel. But that doesn’t mean I would have been justified to plow through people with my car. You can argue in the appropriate public forum about when and how police should close or clear roads during protests but you can’t decide to drive through people if they’re blocking you. Pedestrians have the right of way even when they’re blocking the road and inconveniencing you.

Nope. The nature of protest is you get a permit. I have protested many times, with a permit. If you dont get a permit and block people going about their business, you are a jerk.

Even if you get a permit you may be a jerk to some people. I don't really like the road races that get permits and legally tie up access around town. But that's my problem, not theirs.

Either way, unless you're MPD you don't get to decide what to do about it.

Except for a march, most permitted demonstrations would not be permitted to block roads. You would be in a park or asked to keep moving on a sidewalk. Blocking roads is a jerk move, and illegal. A lot of people with a lot of causes live in and visit DC. If everyone protested unpermitted it would wreak havoc on daily life when it resumes its flow.

Hello, have you ever visited DC? EVERYTHING blocks roads here. Honestly the most irritating one is the Rock an Roll marathon but all the marathons are a big PITA for drivers. Protests also. Motorcycle parades, whatever. The point is I don't get to drive through them if I decide I don't like them or if they don't have a permit.

All of the things you list have permits. This march, such as it was, did not.

Even the ACLU, that noted right-wing group, says what these protesters did to this woman was wrong:

"You don’t need a permit to march in the streets or on sidewalks, as long as marchers don’t obstruct car or pedestrian traffic. If you don’t have a permit, police officers can ask you to move to the side of a street or sidewalk to let others pass or for safety reasons."

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/protesters-rights/

What? Is this sarcasm or has the script flipped so much that progressives now see the ACLU as 'right wing'?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I need to vote for Trump.

This is crazy.

It’s like the satire account Titania McCrath is mainstream.

Sometimes it’s just too much to handle.

Because if he wins things will calm down? You are a special kind of stupid.

DP.
I, for one, do not wish to reward these rioters, socialists, and anarchists with their goal.

+1. Joe is so weak, his strings are being pulled from the left. A Biden win would be a victory for this set.

Zzzzz. All of this is happening in Trump’s America. Why doesn’t he start a dialogue with protestors?

Haha. Good one. You don't "dialogue" with fruitcakes, PP. Haven't you learned that from all your time on DCUM?

Nationwide protests are Trump’s carnage. He owns it, just like how he owns COVID.

+100

The Obama/Biden administration faced the protests and riots in Ferguson and Baltimore head on. They opened a constructive dialogue with the rioters and protesters in both situations. And they coolly brought an end to those unfortunate situations with no loss of life.

I’m not seeing that here at all with Drumpf. All I see is a fat racist who would rather play golf than engage with his constituents.

What? This is revisionist history. I like Pres Obama, but if we can't talk facts we need to stay out of the discussion.