Is MOMS Club International Racist???

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Anonymous wrote:I have always thought this group sucked due to not including all moms. How are you going to call yourself “moms” club but exclude working moms, a larger percentage of mothers. This group is only meant to support a certain kind of mom-white and affluent.

I was in a group like this at one time and I don't know if it was an "official" group but it had the same problem of working moms complaining they were left out because they couldn't attend the 10am play session on Tuesday. But the moms who wanted to meet at different times never offered to organize their own play session at a better time. They just complained that the host setting up play dates weren't doing it at a convenient time for them. The whole point was for a host, any group member can host, to set up a play date and it was an open invitation to anyone in the group who wanted to attend. The onus was on the person complaining to offer to host at a better time/location, but they preferred to complain. It wasn't hard, a lot of play dates were just meet ups at a local park. Why couldn't working mom host one at 10am on Saturday if Tuesday doesn't work? Does MOMS Club not work like this?

I think some are more strict about moms being available for activities during the week. I was a member when my kids were babies/toddlers. I worked part-time and it wasn’t an issue, and our group was open to working moms, but nearly all the activities took place during the work day.

Now I remember that you had to attend a few activities a month to stay "active". But if the times suggested didn't work for your schedule, there was nothing stopping anyone from setting up a new one. Our group included moms, dads, and I think a few nannies. I don't think most of the groups tell working moms they can't join, many just find the times didn't work for them. it wasn't like anyone was specifically excluded, but either the activities worked for your schedule or they didn't. Most people only went to a few activities, found their friends, and peeled off from the main group anyway within a few months.

The descriptions on the moms group website for the local groups specifically say it’s for stay at home moms.

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Anonymous wrote:A group that does not want to engage in politics is not racist.

Agree with that. I am part of a few facebook groups such as Instant Pot, FCPS 20-21, MCT, etc. They all state they do not allow any type of political statement because it detracts from their mission/goal/objective. It derails the conversation and the topic.

And it is not just politics, anything "off topic."

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We had this issue in MONA recently. A lot of people chose not to rejoin.

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Anonymous wrote:A group that does not want to engage in politics is not racist.

Agree with that. I am part of a few facebook groups such as Instant Pot, FCPS 20-21, MCT, etc. They all state they do not allow any type of political statement because it detracts from their mission/goal/objective. It derails the conversation and the topic.

And it is not just politics, anything "off topic."

Really disappointed that your Instant Pot group has not taken a stance on this. I mean, who wants to talk about race when there are beef cubes to be made?!
LOL. Lord have mercy!

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Let me be clear. When there is a nonprofit group that exists to support mothers, it should support ALL mothers, regardless of sex/gender, working status, creed, race, nationality, religion, disability, zip code, marital status, and so on.

A "MOMS" club should not be allowed to exist when they basically only support white women who stay at home with their children. And they should especially not receive 501(c)3 nonprofit tax benefits/status via the IRS if they do not support other races of women.

Stop dividing women, especially based on their race and/or work status. This is NOT okay, and that is why so many chapters are disbanding. Way to go to those of you who have taken a stand to TRULY support ALL WOMEN!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear. When there is a nonprofit group that exists to support mothers, it should support ALL mothers, regardless of sex/gender, working status, creed, race, nationality, religion, disability, zip code, marital status, and so on.

A "MOMS" club should not be allowed to exist when they basically only support white women who stay at home with their children. And they should especially not receive 501(c)3 nonprofit tax benefits/status via the IRS if they do not support other races of women.

Stop dividing women, especially based on their race and/or work status. This is NOT okay, and that is why so many chapters are disbanding. Way to go to those of you who have taken a stand to TRULY support ALL WOMEN!!!!

You've got it backwards. Did you do that intentionally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear. When there is a nonprofit group that exists to support mothers, it should support ALL mothers, regardless of sex/gender, working status, creed, race, nationality, religion, disability, zip code, marital status, and so on.

A "MOMS" club should not be allowed to exist when they basically only support white women who stay at home with their children. And they should especially not receive 501(c)3 nonprofit tax benefits/status via the IRS if they do not support other races of women.

Stop dividing women, especially based on their race and/or work status. This is NOT okay, and that is why so many chapters are disbanding. Way to go to those of you who have taken a stand to TRULY support ALL WOMEN!!!!

Did you just "and so on" transwomen? Or are they not included at all?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear. When there is a nonprofit group that exists to support mothers, it should support ALL mothers, regardless of sex/gender, working status, creed, race, nationality, religion, disability, zip code, marital status, and so on.

A "MOMS" club should not be allowed to exist when they basically only support white women who stay at home with their children. And they should especially not receive 501(c)3 nonprofit tax benefits/status via the IRS if they do not support other races of women.

Stop dividing women, especially based on their race and/or work status. This is NOT okay, and that is why so many chapters are disbanding. Way to go to those of you who have taken a stand to TRULY support ALL WOMEN!!!!

Did you just "and so on" transwomen? Or are they not included at all?

Aren’t transgender moms included in the part where she said the group should be supportive of anyone regardless sex/gender? I assume that also includes people who identify as not having a gender. Did she need to specifically spell out the acronym LGBQTIA? Are you going to go through and police everyone’s post to make sure it is up to “woke” standards?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear. When there is a nonprofit group that exists to support mothers, it should support ALL mothers, regardless of sex/gender, working status, creed, race, nationality, religion, disability, zip code, marital status, and so on.

A "MOMS" club should not be allowed to exist when they basically only support white women who stay at home with their children. And they should especially not receive 501(c)3 nonprofit tax benefits/status via the IRS if they do not support other races of women.

Stop dividing women, especially based on their race and/or work status. This is NOT okay, and that is why so many chapters are disbanding. Way to go to those of you who have taken a stand to TRULY support ALL WOMEN!!!!

Did you just "and so on" transwomen? Or are they not included at all?

You mean transwomen and transmen. MOMS welcomes them all, as long as they are willing to organize or come to playdates during the workday. Dads too are welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:A group that does not want to engage in politics is not racist.

RACE IS NOT POLITICAL. Being a racist is not ok, regardless of your political views. Saying Black Lives Matter should not be offensive, nor does it say you need to vote liberal.

Black Lives Matter *is* a political group. You can be against racism and still think BLM is a shady as f::k political organization.

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I don’t see how anyone can think differently.
Right front and center on the BLM web page is about defunding police, which is controversial and political.

I am not pro BLM. I’m a person of color and support police reform.

I have been a working mom, part time working mom and now a SAHM.
I joined MOMs club when I first moved with an infant and toddler. I eventually got a part time job and was told that this group may not be a good fit for me.
I had another baby and moved and now part of a different chapter. The majority of the moms in this MOMs club work. I now don’t like that the majority of events are on weekends and late afternoon. I totally understand now that I’m a SAHM why the other Moms club said it may not be a good for for me.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure a number of you have heard of MOMS Club, which is an organization for stay-at-home moms, moms offering moms support during daytime hours. For those of you who don't know, MOMS Club International (a 501(c)3 nonprofit organization) has provided a club forum that has divided stay-at-home moms from working moms for years. Many have joined in spite of the divide it puts up between working and non working moms, because people are desperate for friends. Most people I know who joined a MOMS Club chapter ended up dropping out because they see how it divides women, because they go back to work, or because they drop out after they make their friends.

Anyway, this archaic club has weathered through the years, in spite of finding ways to exclude working mothers from its group. Well, the $hit has finally hit the fan with this organization. The International Organization is accused of perpetuating racism:

"It has recently come to light that the International MOMS Club organization has chosen to remain on the wrong side of history. They are clinging to the status quo and refusing to acknowledge current events. They have refused to issue any sort of statement condemning racial inequality or pledge any kind of action against it.
Their excuse is that engaging in political activity jeopardizes our 501(c)(3) status. This is so outrageous. The laws around it only prohibit our club from endorsing candidates. Besides which, when did it become political to acknowledge racism and commit to learning and growing?"

"It all began with a chapter posting a beautiful photo collage promising that racial discrimination will end with their children. International refused to share it, claiming that it was political. The chapter was so shocked and disappointed with the terrible responses provided, and have disbanded. International has chosen to remain silent still. We encourage you to sign and share our petition and also share your thoughts and concerns at [e-mail] . We feel that the founder must step aside to allow for leadership that is more in line with their members beliefs. “ See: https://www.change.org/p/moms-club-call-for-international-moms-club-founder-mary-james-to-resign-amid-racism-scandal

A number of chapters around the country are now disbanding from the organization, including several in the DC area. There is a Facebook group for it. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1358291397894998/

Thoughts? Are they racist, or within their legal rights as a 501(c)3 to not take a stance on racial discrimination? I know I will never join this organization ever again...

Not publicly condemning racism /= being racist

Actually, it does. Not publicly condemning racism is being racist. Why are you so afraid of admitting that?

Jessica Mulroney was called out for being racist because she did not support BLM on her instagram. Failure to support BLM is called out for being racist.
People should read the BLM mission statement. It is eye opening.

Fine, then don’t support the actual BLM organization. That’s not what I said though. Nice try deflecting.

+1 - No one was telling them they had to become card carrying members of BLM. They just wanted to post an anti-racism collage. Nothing political about that.

You can keep repeating it, but this thread is now five pages long. Clearly there is something controversial about it. The fact that they wanted it posted now is tied to the George Floyd case and it becomes political. Did they ask for it to be posted months ago?

The fact that it is “controversial” to post something that is pro-moms of all colors should bother you.