OBX location most similar to Bethany or Stone Harbor

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Who gives a crap if pizza is "NY" or not.

There is a certain way to cook a good pizza. You don't have to be Italian or from NY to know or learn it.

A good pizza place DOES have a REALLY FREAKING HOT expensive (over $10k) oven. And freshly made dough from scratch.

That's about it, toppings are just tasty stuff that's fresh.

New Yorkers give a crap about pizza, because the love to tell everybody how everything is better "back home." My question is if it's so hetter back home, why are you here?

Also, you can find tons of great pizza outside of New York. It's not that hard to make.

I guess if you didn’t grow up with good food then it’s hard to understand why people appreciate and miss good food.

That said, I still go to OBX for reasons other than food. If NY/NJ had better beach rental options, I’d go there in a heartbeat.

No I didn't grow up in NY/NJ, so I was deprived of good food growing up. Thankfully there is a large influx of New Yorkers in and around DC who can share their wisdom on what's good. FYI, I've had plenty of NY pizza. Some of it's been really good and some pretty pedestrian. Also, it's not hard to find good pizza anywhere in the U.S.

It costs twice as much, or more, to rent a much smaller beach house in the Northeast. No one is going to eat pizza seven nights a week - not in NY/NJ, not in OBX, not anywhere. If you don't know good food, that's fine, but have some understanding about why some people don't want spaghettio-level food during their vacation week, nor do they want to cook every night. It is not that difficult to understand, but you want claim the problem is them, as usual - which is a very, very southern thing to do. Come to think of it, I don't care much for "stars and bars" on my vacation, either.

For hating the OBX so much, you really post on a lot of OBX threads. I remember your multiple Spaghettios posts.

Yes, I just posted about it ONCE on either this or one other thread, thank you for paying attention, chiming in with your own hate, yet still not answering the question at hand.

"once," yeah right. Just like you've only posted once or twice here, right? You're the most prolific poster when the topic is OBX. Like I said, for somebody who hates it so much (which I'm sure you do) you sure do seem compelled to post about it a lot. Sorry you're so bored.

To add, the only real "hate" I have is the "stars and bars" - the epitome of hate, TBH. You might want to check yourself.

Oh, and the spaghettios posts are recent, so feel free to search for yourself, if you can't count.

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Who gives a crap if pizza is "NY" or not.

There is a certain way to cook a good pizza. You don't have to be Italian or from NY to know or learn it.

A good pizza place DOES have a REALLY FREAKING HOT expensive (over $10k) oven. And freshly made dough from scratch.

That's about it, toppings are just tasty stuff that's fresh.

New Yorkers give a crap about pizza, because the love to tell everybody how everything is better "back home." My question is if it's so hetter back home, why are you here?

Also, you can find tons of great pizza outside of New York. It's not that hard to make.

I guess if you didn’t grow up with good food then it’s hard to understand why people appreciate and miss good food.

That said, I still go to OBX for reasons other than food. If NY/NJ had better beach rental options, I’d go there in a heartbeat.

No I didn't grow up in NY/NJ, so I was deprived of good food growing up. Thankfully there is a large influx of New Yorkers in and around DC who can share their wisdom on what's good. FYI, I've had plenty of NY pizza. Some of it's been really good and some pretty pedestrian. Also, it's not hard to find good pizza anywhere in the U.S.

It costs twice as much, or more, to rent a much smaller beach house in the Northeast. No one is going to eat pizza seven nights a week - not in NY/NJ, not in OBX, not anywhere. If you don't know good food, that's fine, but have some understanding about why some people don't want spaghettio-level food during their vacation week, nor do they want to cook every night. It is not that difficult to understand, but you want claim the problem is them, as usual - which is a very, very southern thing to do. Come to think of it, I don't care much for "stars and bars" on my vacation, either.

For hating the OBX so much, you really post on a lot of OBX threads. I remember your multiple Spaghettios posts.

Yes, I just posted about it ONCE on either this or one other thread, thank you for paying attention, chiming in with your own hate, yet still not answering the question at hand.

"once," yeah right. Just like you've only posted once or twice here, right? You're the most prolific poster when the topic is OBX. Like I said, for somebody who hates it so much (which I'm sure you do) you sure do seem compelled to post about it a lot. Sorry you're so bored.

Well, work is a little slow today, but I'm anything but bored. Sorry you are so angry. How is that working for you?

Please seek professional help.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, do the people who go to OBX really seem like they enjoy anything? Might want to run with a better crowd.

+1. Your friends want to rent there because it’s cheap. Nothing much else going on in OBX. Sure you can go fishing, crabbing, blah, blah ,blah but it’s not like you can’t do that in the DE beaches. If you and DH are used to Bethany and Stone Harbor then I suggest you find other friends willing to pay more to go there if your current friends are not willing to.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

If pizzas and hoagies are so easy why is there so much garbage in this area?

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Who gives a crap if pizza is "NY" or not.

There is a certain way to cook a good pizza. You don't have to be Italian or from NY to know or learn it.

A good pizza place DOES have a REALLY FREAKING HOT expensive (over $10k) oven. And freshly made dough from scratch.

That's about it, toppings are just tasty stuff that's fresh.

New Yorkers give a crap about pizza, because the love to tell everybody how everything is better "back home." My question is if it's so hetter back home, why are you here?

Also, you can find tons of great pizza outside of New York. It's not that hard to make.

I guess if you didn’t grow up with good food then it’s hard to understand why people appreciate and miss good food.

That said, I still go to OBX for reasons other than food. If NY/NJ had better beach rental options, I’d go there in a heartbeat.

No I didn't grow up in NY/NJ, so I was deprived of good food growing up. Thankfully there is a large influx of New Yorkers in and around DC who can share their wisdom on what's good. FYI, I've had plenty of NY pizza. Some of it's been really good and some pretty pedestrian. Also, it's not hard to find good pizza anywhere in the U.S.

LOL. Sure.

It's hard enough in the DMV! haha. Seriously. There are lots of good sort of gourmet, wood fire, sit and eat at the restaurant pizza, but seriously seriously lacking in places that sell a good slice.

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Ill always be partial to Emerald Isle since that's where I grew up during the summers. Its in driving distance of a few towns if you want to get a nicer meal- Atlantic City/Beaufort/Morehead City and Swansboro. We rarely went into either of those places unless to visit a particular museum/attraction or on Sundays when we went with grandparent to mass, which meant donuts

Emerald Isle has a grocery store, water park, mini golf/etc., and a few good restaurants in town.

Ive never been one to go to the beach to not enjoy the beach. The day growing up was basically:

Wake up
Breakfast
Swimsuit
Beach 8-11 ish
1130- back to the house
12-2 lunch and reading
2-5 beach
6-8 help make dinner and eat dinner
8-10 read/walk/watch TV/play cards

Every so often we would get a treat like DQ at night or pizza picked up for dinner. A particularly bad stretch of weather meant we got to go to the movies.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

Any city north of here that has an established Italian American community. In other words, you lower your standards for these staples when you're from the Northeast, but living in the DMV.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

Any city north of here that has an established Italian American community. In other words, you lower your standards for these staples when you're from the Northeast, but living in the DMV.

Exactly the point.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

Ah, the "Spaghettios" poster. Still only one or two posts on an OBX thread about how bad the food is?!?! I like good food too, but my focus on a beach vacation isn't finding a heart attack grinder. Is the fishing good, how's the surf, should i bring the kayaks and volleyball net? If the food's not up to par, it's not a big deal. It's like skiing out west, the mountain, trails and snow are awesome. That i paid $20 in the cafeteria for a burger that's worse than Burger King on it's worst day isn't a big deal. Sorry your one trip to OBX got ruined by some subpar salami and provolone. Life's short to post about it forty times on DCUM.

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EDIT: life's too short to post about it forty times on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

Any city north of here that has an established Italian American community. In other words, you lower your standards for these staples when you're from the Northeast, but living in the DMV.

True. But, I do think there are more cultures that can eat well than do not eat well. IME, midwesterners (the Nebraskan kind, with Nordic roots, for example - not so much the Chicago kind) eat bland and pretty terrible food, and might not have the best diet, as an example. It is not just the Italians that know what a decent, edible meal is.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

Ah, the "Spaghettios" poster. Still only one or two posts on an OBX thread about how bad the food is?!?! I like good food too, but my focus on a beach vacation isn't finding a heart attack grinder. Is the fishing good, how's the surf, should i bring the kayaks and volleyball net? If the food's not up to par, it's not a big deal. It's like skiing out west, the mountain, trails and snow are awesome. That i paid $20 in the cafeteria for a burger that's worse than Burger King on it's worst day isn't a big deal. Sorry your one trip to OBX got ruined by some subpar salami and provolone. Life's short to post about it forty times on DCUM.

Nope. Wrong poster. You might want to look up that word on DCUM - INCLUDING your accusations, to get an accurate count. By now, you have mentioned that word MORE than the original poster of that word. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Duck is the closest but it does not compare to Stone Harbor or Avalon. There aren’t any good little pizza or sub shops in Duck like you get up north. Cravings is good but they get slammed every day so the wait is forever. There is one main road in Duck so the traffic is awful. It’s not grid streets like the Jersey shore. There’s no boardwalk to drive to and the charm is just not there IMO. It’s a lot of preppy Southerners wearing monogrammed clothes and Lilly Pulitzer stuff. I grew up in the northeast and I miss going to the Jersey shore so much. Better towns and people.

I am LOLing so hard at how you are trying to sound pretentious and failing. Jersey shore is TRASH. And who goes to the beach to eat pizza? Get some fresh seafood you ignoramus. Go to the Blue Point, Paper Canoe, or Kimball's Kitchen. Oh that's right, you probably can't afford nice meals out which is why you're looking for pizza on vacation

Pizza and hoagie snobs....shessh. It's not hard to find good pizza outside of NY. Also, I didn't know making a sub/hoagie was such an art- good deli meat, good bread, and some condiments...not that hard.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t appreciate a good hoagie.

Enjoy Subway.

New York and New Jersey folks and their sacred hoagies. It's soooo hard- good italian meats and cheeses, good bread, some condiments, done. Apparently the only place this complicated recipe can be successfully replicated is NY and NJ. They act like it's akin to making a souffle.

Agree, pizza and hoagies are easy. The only thing I might give New Yorkers is bagels. There are a lot of bad bagels out there. NY gets bagels right, more times than not.

Then please tell me where I can find a good hoagie in the DC area. Good NY style pizza. Good cheesesteak. Good Italian food.

Ah, the "Spaghettios" poster. Still only one or two posts on an OBX thread about how bad the food is?!?! I like good food too, but my focus on a beach vacation isn't finding a heart attack grinder. Is the fishing good, how's the surf, should i bring the kayaks and volleyball net? If the food's not up to par, it's not a big deal. It's like skiing out west, the mountain, trails and snow are awesome. That i paid $20 in the cafeteria for a burger that's worse than Burger King on it's worst day isn't a big deal. Sorry your one trip to OBX got ruined by some subpar salami and provolone. Life's short to post about it forty times on DCUM.

The only one posting forty times is you. You seem to take this personally. Sorry if one of your "home cooked" menu items was criticized. And yeah, 'skiing: out west' is definitely NOT 'beach:OBX'. You need to get out more, clearly.