And trust me when I say, we are. I already said a little prayer for you as blessed your heart, as well. Good luck with recruitment. |
My wife was in a sorority at Maryland. Is our daughter a shoo-in at the same sororoty wherever she goes, or are her chances better at Maryland? |
Oh, give me a break. It's a superficial version of a job interview. Rules are the same: do your research, dress nicely and for the culture, and don't talk about controversial subjects. I'm sure your daughter wore clothing that would fit in and made appropriate chitchat along the suggested lines. And I don't think posts like yours are very dignified. |
your daughter is not a shoo-in, anywhere. unfortunately, depending on a huge variety of factors, legacy doesn't mean as much as it once did. |
Well I was in a “top” sorority at a super nerdy engineering school in the Midwest and all of this rings true to my experience. I made it through knowing nothing and not having any sisters, aunts or a mom who were Greek. I would have loved to have this solid advice. |
Clearly, some don't like my post. Okay. My only point is some houses have their lists are created before rush by the alumni. If they need filler girls, they'll take a look and if, as a previous poster noted, you cross all your ts and dot your Is your daughter will be considered as space allows. One thing parents of alumni told me over and over was a high GPA and connections were essential. And, yes, our DC in this area are lucky to have highly honed social skills by the time they go to rush: they aren't going to discuss controversial topics. Our family, relatives, and friends provided us with enough information so, by the time we spoke to a stranger, the advice seemed obvious and we knew the "truth" of filler girls from OOS with poor outcomes. We purchased all the proper clothes for each round, makeup, jewelry, etc ahead of time so, she was fine and landed in the house she wanted. She was blessed with the assistance of relatives and advice of any out of state parents who warned me of SEC pitfalls since I was in a house in the North without ties to the school my DC attends. To the PP who got in a top house at their school,without connections: good for you! The houses I am referring to would never, ever accept an unknown. They don't have to when thousands are rushing. |
The “connections” bit is a myth created by moms who want to believe they still have pull. The truth is that the houses change over the years and current girls don’t care about legacy- they do what they want to do. I know some very socially and politically powerful parents whose daughters attended the same SEC schools they did and who still live nearby. Their girls were cut by their their double legacy in the first round. And they had high GPAs. Moms can groom them all they want but they have zero power to influence the bids beyond preparing them with social skills and a wardrobe.
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She’d not a shoe in anywhere. Legacies are pretty meaningless anymore. It gets you a second round look and that is it. |
Recruitment is different at different schools. Engineering schools tend to have down to earth no frills recruitment. If you are presentable, you’ll find a home.
SEC schools are on an entirely different planet. |
My point exactly - I think your advice is solid even at schools where almost no one is a legacy and no one has ever heard of letters of recommendation. We got a packet once for a rushee when I was the alumni advisor and we didn’t know what to do with it because we’d never seen one before. Even at the low key, less competitive chapters, it still helps to dress appropriately, be yourself, and make pleasant chit chat. |
Goodness, you and I would never run in the same social circles. Anyone who refers to any young women as "fillers" reeks of striver/undereducated/quasi-pageant mom. I'm glad your ability follow the insane "rules" that promote complete abandonment of ones individuality got your dd into a "top house" but again, this is for a class of people with whom my life will never intersect, thankfully. |
Interesting! The moms do talk up connections. It is great to know, in your experience, they didn't help out. Maybe it is just a myth? |
Off to find a school for my daughter without Greek life. Gross! |
1) Ha! What a disconnect. I didn't make up the term "filler" (It is gross) and I encouraged my DC to AVOID those houses that don't even pretend to empower their fellow sisters. My advice meant next to nothing during formal rush as those who have been through it may understand. 2) Striver? Cold. Undereducated? Colder. And pageant mom? Coldest. 3) My DC rushed. My role ended with shopping and paying fees. 4) How did you perceive she gave up her individuality from my statement? Was it because she rushed at a huge school where she wanted to be involved, have leadership opportunities, be philantrophic, have fun, and be involved on campus? Actually, don't bother. 5) I said she got the house she wanted. I never said top tier. Ever. I have no idea what her house is ranked. It suits her just fine. And to address the part emboldened: Ruth Ginsberg was in a sorority. |
As was the first female US Senator, the first woman Treasurer of the US, first female CEO of a fortune 500 company, two NASA astronauts, Harper Lee, first woman to head the Small Business Administration, first woman to receive a PhD in psychology, first female governor of LA, the list goes on. So grateful for these trailblazing sorority women! |