Kid Not Eligible for AAP though scores seem great.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The GBRS scores are low. You are going to want a WISC, which will overcome it.

Here’s my anticdote. My older DC is an absent minded professor type— naturally brillliant, but you need to remind him to please wear deodorant. Definately has some challenges, and life isn’t always easy. But very smart in a way that’s apparent to everyone. And maybe not always in a great way. Yikes. He was in pool in 3rd, in AAP. No muss, no fuss. I never did anything. Kid graduates from TJ this spring.

Kid 2 is also very bright, but is an ADHD, anxious girl. So, she was very quiet at school. She just missed in pool in second. We talked about it for a while and parent referred. We knew the program and believed it was a good match. So we fought for this kid. She was denied, and we got a WISC, which solidly placed her into AAP. And she did very well in the program. And this was against the advice of her 2nd grade teacher who said— in front of her— that she was too weak in math for AAP. We spent years undoing that damage.

She also applied to TJ. Was a finalist and had higher math scores than her brother. Around 90th percentile in a pool normed by TJ admissions candidates— not a nationally normed pool. But she was not admitted. Which was for the best. Nobody wanted to tell her she couldn’t try, since her brother was attending. But, she still isn’t great with stress and she’s a perfectionist. That said, she’s doing beautifully in a strong FCPS base HS and is plenty challenged. She was devistated to miss TJ admissions. And I hurt for her. But it worked out well, and everyone is in the right school for them. If TJ had real appeals, I likely would have said no. Because deep down, I thought they were right. She has the smarts. But I’m not sure she has the temperament.

That said, I’m glad we fought for her at the AAP level. We knew our kid better than FCPS and we pushed for what we believed was the right placement. And I think if we had let the “she’s not good in math” comment pass, it would have become a self fulfilling prophesy.

FCPS means well, and tries to do well by all 180,000 kids. But it’s huge. DDs AAP admission was the point where I stopped blindly trusting that FCPS knew what was best for my kids. If DC1 had been turned down for AAP, I would have assumed FCPS knew what they were doing and moved on. By kid 2, I was a lot less trusting.

OP—hear the teacher and AART out and try not to make decisions from pride, rather than your kids long term happiness. . But ultimately— you know your kid best. And if you won’t fight for them, no one will. Then again— you don’t HAVE to fight. If you suspect AAP might not be the right placement right now, see how third grade goes and reapply for 4th— with a WISC.

Good luck!



OMG. Glad your kids are bright, but your spelling is absolutely cringe worthy.
Anonymous
I have a dumb question. But I don't recall ever seeing a GBRS for my AAP kid (now in 6th). Is there any way I can request it (just out of curiosity)?
Anonymous
Get in touch with the AART person at your kids school. I was provided the same from the AART teacher.
Anonymous wrote:I have a dumb question. But I don't recall ever seeing a GBRS for my AAP kid (now in 6th). Is there any way I can request it (just out of curiosity)?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have a dumb question. But I don't recall ever seeing a GBRS for my AAP kid (now in 6th). Is there any way I can request it (just out of curiosity)?


You had to have requested the packet submitted. They don’t automatically give it to you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The GBRS scores are low. You are going to want a WISC, which will overcome it.

Here’s my anticdote. My older DC is an absent minded professor type— naturally brillliant, but you need to remind him to please wear deodorant. Definately has some challenges, and life isn’t always easy. But very smart in a way that’s apparent to everyone. And maybe not always in a great way. Yikes. He was in pool in 3rd, in AAP. No muss, no fuss. I never did anything. Kid graduates from TJ this spring.

Kid 2 is also very bright, but is an ADHD, anxious girl. So, she was very quiet at school. She just missed in pool in second. We talked about it for a while and parent referred. We knew the program and believed it was a good match. So we fought for this kid. She was denied, and we got a WISC, which solidly placed her into AAP. And she did very well in the program. And this was against the advice of her 2nd grade teacher who said— in front of her— that she was too weak in math for AAP. We spent years undoing that damage.

She also applied to TJ. Was a finalist and had higher math scores than her brother. Around 90th percentile in a pool normed by TJ admissions candidates— not a nationally normed pool. But she was not admitted. Which was for the best. Nobody wanted to tell her she couldn’t try, since her brother was attending. But, she still isn’t great with stress and she’s a perfectionist. That said, she’s doing beautifully in a strong FCPS base HS and is plenty challenged. She was devistated to miss TJ admissions. And I hurt for her. But it worked out well, and everyone is in the right school for them. If TJ had real appeals, I likely would have said no. Because deep down, I thought they were right. She has the smarts. But I’m not sure she has the temperament.

That said, I’m glad we fought for her at the AAP level. We knew our kid better than FCPS and we pushed for what we believed was the right placement. And I think if we had let the “she’s not good in math” comment pass, it would have become a self fulfilling prophesy.

FCPS means well, and tries to do well by all 180,000 kids. But it’s huge. DDs AAP admission was the point where I stopped blindly trusting that FCPS knew what was best for my kids. If DC1 had been turned down for AAP, I would have assumed FCPS knew what they were doing and moved on. By kid 2, I was a lot less trusting.

OP—hear the teacher and AART out and try not to make decisions from pride, rather than your kids long term happiness. . But ultimately— you know your kid best. And if you won’t fight for them, no one will. Then again— you don’t HAVE to fight. If you suspect AAP might not be the right placement right now, see how third grade goes and reapply for 4th— with a WISC.

Good luck!



OMG. Glad your kids are bright, but your spelling is absolutely cringe worthy.

Please, she was trying to help here. I'm sure your English is PERFECT!
Anonymous
As a former FCPS 2nd grade teacher, and current parent, I cringe at the suggestion that the classroom teacher should have more input than they do already. Some families put tremendous pressure me if they disagreed with the GBRS, especially because I was so young. Thank goodness for test scores, retakes, and appeals! In addition, teachers have NO EXTRA TIME. I can’t emphasize this strongly enough. If it takes one extra minute per kid, there goes an entire planning period.
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