Mass shooting at New Zealand mosque

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Anonymous wrote:How do you square a "white supremacist" terrorist from New Zealand liking a black right leaning American? Clearly the man is deranged.

And how does one equate conservatism with the view that people cause climate change?

Non sequitur

Can you answer the question?

Let the killer answer it for you. From his manifest:

Why focus on immigration and birth rates when climate change is such a huge issue?
Because they are the same issue, the environment is being destroyed by over population, we Europeans are one of the groups that are not over populating the world. The invaders are the ones over populating the world. Kill the invaders, kill the overpopulation and by doing so save the environment.

That is not a conservative viewpoint. We do not believe that humans cause climate change, especially to the degree liberals do.

"The environment is being destroyed by over population"

Sounds straight from Greenpeace and far-left activists.

Seriously? Just STFU, conservative twat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I bet the New Zealand government will make more changes after this one attack than the US has made since Columbine.

And what do you think they'll change?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:You Bozos trying to describe this guy as a left-wing ANTIFA supporter are crazy. Does this sound like ANTIFA or the left-wing:

Mass immigration and the higher fertility rates of the immigrants themselves are causing this increase in population.
We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history. Millions of people pouring across our borders, legally.Invited by the state and corporate entities to replace the White people who have failed to reproduce, failed to create the cheap labour, new consumers and tax base that the corporations and states need to thrive.

This crisis of mass immigration and sub-replacement fertility is an assault on the European people that, if not combated, will ultimately result in the complete racial and cultural replacement of the European people.

The first paragraph sound exactly like something Trump would say.

That is a stretch, just like you always do on here to show your true colors. Did you get the morning talking points on this subject yet from Capitol Hill?

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Anonymous wrote:He did it for the US and admits that he's a terrorist:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8642007/new-zealand-mosque-shooting-manifesto-anders-breivik/

"By the definition, then yes. It is a terrorist attack. But I believe it is a partisan action against an occupying force."

He boasted that he chose to use firearms so he could influence politics in the US.

He wrote that he wanted to "create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide".

And he ranted about his hopes that “this conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.”

Congratulations to the gun nutters here. You have a brother in arms across the world.

Sounds like Antifa

? Which antifa member shot up a bunch of people in the name of the 2a.?

Read what he said. What he actually said

The quote is from the manifesto.. what he actually wrote.

[Anonymous]

I’m just waiting for thoughts and prayers tweet from our noble warm caring leader who calls white supremacists good guys (C’vile). I grieve for those lost while Praying!! in a house of worship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do you square a "white supremacist" terrorist from New Zealand liking a black right leaning American? Clearly the man is deranged.

And how does one equate conservatism with the view that people cause climate change?

Non sequitur

Can you answer the question?

Sure, lots of people are influenced by their background. The reality is always something in the middle.

Can you answer my question or will you do what everyone else on this board does - ask another question to push a narrarive?

Your question about Owens? I think you are correct. That's why I further asked how one equates conservatism with people-induced climate change.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I bet the New Zealand government will make more changes after this one attack than the US has made since Columbine.

They aren’t hampered by the deep pockets of NRA/gun manufacturers, the paranoia of the 2A nutters, and propaganda of the GOP who feeds their fears.

+1 similar thing happened in the UK. Years ago when a guy shot up a school, the government put in much stricter gun control. Since then, there have been no school shootings in the UK, unlike here, where even the deaths of 26 5/6 years olds barely moved the needle.

There is a lot about this country that is great, but there is also a lot about this country that is seriously wrong, and the deep pockets of the NRA and gun manufacturers backing the GOP will never allow this country to fix the wrongs.

[Anonymous]

We stopped going to London because of this sort of thing. Now we won’t go back to Queenstown

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Anonymous wrote:I’m just waiting for thoughts and prayers tweet from our noble warm caring leader who calls white supremacists good guys (C’vile). I grieve for those lost while Praying!! in a house of worship.

Put a cork in it.

Every time something terrible occurs anywhere, anyplace on earth, many here want the U.S. president to be the first in line to apologize or offer sympathy. Give it a break.

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jsteele wrote:You Bozos trying to describe this guy as a left-wing ANTIFA supporter are crazy. Does this sound like ANTIFA or the left-wing:

Mass immigration and the higher fertility rates of the immigrants themselves are causing this increase in population.
We are experiencing an invasion on a level never seen before in history. Millions of people pouring across our borders, legally.Invited by the state and corporate entities to replace the White people who have failed to reproduce, failed to create the cheap labour, new consumers and tax base that the corporations and states need to thrive.

This crisis of mass immigration and sub-replacement fertility is an assault on the European people that, if not combated, will ultimately result in the complete racial and cultural replacement of the European people.

The first paragraph sound exactly like something Trump would say.

Yes. He's equating birth rate of immigrants with destruction of the climate. In the above, unfortunately, he is correct. He does accurately describe the current trend of hiring foreign workers for a lesser cost. It's how he took the issue into his own hands and used it as a reason to kill that's 100% wrong. And that's not something Trump has done or has advocating doing. Mao? Yes. Stalin? Yes. Hitler? Yes. Trump? Nope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I bet the New Zealand government will make more changes after this one attack than the US has made since Columbine.

They aren’t hampered by the deep pockets of NRA/gun manufacturers, the paranoia of the 2A nutters, and propaganda of the GOP who feeds their fears.

Nor that pesky constitution that pushes nasty freedoms.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you square a "white supremacist" terrorist from New Zealand liking a black right leaning American? Clearly the man is deranged.

And how does one equate conservatism with the view that people cause climate change?

Non sequitur

Can you answer the question?

Sure, lots of people are influenced by their background. The reality is always something in the middle.

Can you answer my question or will you do what everyone else on this board does - ask another question to push a narrarive?

Your question about Owens? I think you are correct. That's why I further asked how one equates conservatism with people-induced climate change.

If you truly believe that the Earth is going to explode in 12 years and you truly believe that humans are the ones responsible for it ... it's obvious what the only solution is.

That's why the crazy left rethoric is so dangerous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why this “mentally ill vs terrorist” argument is a thing. You can certainly be both. Most mass murderers are nuts by definition. They just use politics to rationalize their bloodlust. If this guy was born in Syria, he would undoubtedly be in ISIS. Since he was born white, he is a violent white supremacist.

I think just about all mass murderers are mentally ill. The problem I have is that when the murderer is a white guy, everyone rushes to declare him mentally ill. If the killer is a Muslim, he is immediately called a terrorist, all other Muslims are expected to issue condemnations, politicians demand Muslim bans, and law enforcement heightens surveillance of Muslim communities and individuals. Muslims (and several other minority groups) don't get the "mentally ill" disclaimer. This happens even when the individual has a diagnosed mental illness. I would like to see some consistency (beyond consistent inconsistency) in how these people are treated.

Good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We stopped going to London because of this sort of thing. Now we won’t go back to Queenstown

So you haven’t been to the US since 1999.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do you square a "white supremacist" terrorist from New Zealand liking a black right leaning American? Clearly the man is deranged.

And how does one equate conservatism with the view that people cause climate change?

Non sequitur

Can you answer the question?

Let the killer answer it for you. From his manifest:

Why focus on immigration and birth rates when climate change is such a huge issue?
Because they are the same issue, the environment is being destroyed by over population, we Europeans are one of the groups that are not over populating the world. The invaders are the ones over populating the world. Kill the invaders, kill the overpopulation and by doing so save the environment.

That is not a conservative viewpoint. We do not believe that humans cause climate change, especially to the degree liberals do.

"The environment is being destroyed by over population"

Sounds straight from Greenpeace and far-left activists.

Exactly right. I've never heard, for instance, Delingpole, say anything like that.