Time Limit for Map-M Testing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

My child has accommodations for extra time and sometimes takes several days to finish MAP test, because neither he nor his teachers wish him to miss lunch or instruction time.

***He tells me doing it in little chunks bothers him because he can’t get into a good concentration groove.***

However he realizes that for him there is no other option. Instruction time is more important.

Posted too soon.

He’s in 8th grade, so has been doing this for a while. He tends to score better when his MAP test isn’t so partitioned, when the next class is doing review, for example, and he decides to continue with his MAP. So in his experience, the test partitioning does seem to make a difference.

How is this remotely getting him ready for the real world?

I love when I get this question!

Answer: it doesn't. It gets him to NOT FAIL SCHOOL THIS YEAR. Before extra time accommodations on tests and assignments, he was failing. Now he gets good grades.
It's a question of immediate survival, and hopefully survival in high school and graduation.
We don't have the luxury of considering the "real world", PP. We're taking it one step at a time. Someone with a high school diploma is more attractive to employers than someone without.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

My child has accommodations for extra time and sometimes takes several days to finish MAP test, because neither he nor his teachers wish him to miss lunch or instruction time.

***He tells me doing it in little chunks bothers him because he can’t get into a good concentration groove.***

However he realizes that for him there is no other option. Instruction time is more important.

Posted too soon.

He’s in 8th grade, so has been doing this for a while. He tends to score better when his MAP test isn’t so partitioned, when the next class is doing review, for example, and he decides to continue with his MAP. So in his experience, the test partitioning does seem to make a difference.

How is this remotely getting him ready for the real world?

I love when I get this question!

Answer: it doesn't. It gets him to NOT FAIL SCHOOL THIS YEAR. Before extra time accommodations on tests and assignments, he was failing. Now he gets good grades.
It's a question of immediate survival, and hopefully survival in high school and graduation.
We don't have the luxury of considering the "real world", PP. We're taking it one step at a time. Someone with a high school diploma is more attractive to employers than someone without.

Exactly.

And in the "real world," people actually have lunch and do their work assignments in the afternoon as well. I can't recall the last time I saw a boss standing at someone's desk telling a person, "hurry up, you only have 14 more minutes to complete this presentation."

[Anonymous]

It might be worth a call to the office that administers the universal screening for the magnet programs to tell them your school wants to limit your child to 60 minutes on the MAP, that you understand that’s not how the test is supposed to be administered, that you understand the average test time for high scorers at some ages is over 60 minites, and whether they are aware of a push from the central office to limit kids to 60 minutes and how that affects their screening for programs. Maybe they will ask some questions or point out why it’s a problem. I’d imagine the demographics of people who will tell their kids to ignore the school and take however long they need are not conducive to increasing the diversity of the programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My child has accommodations for extra time and sometimes takes several days to finish MAP test, because neither he nor his teachers wish him to miss lunch or instruction time.

***He tells me doing it in little chunks bothers him because he can’t get into a good concentration groove.***

However he realizes that for him there is no other option. Instruction time is more important.

Documented accommodations are a completely different situation... I don't think schools are being asked not to follow an IEP or 504 plan, that would be illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It might be worth a call to the office that administers the universal screening for the magnet programs to tell them your school wants to limit your child to 60 minutes on the MAP, that you understand that’s not how the test is supposed to be administered, that you understand the average test time for high scorers at some ages is over 60 minites, and whether they are aware of a push from the central office to limit kids to 60 minutes and how that affects their screening for programs. Maybe they will ask some questions or point out why it’s a problem. I’d imagine the demographics of people who will tell their kids to ignore the school and take however long they need are not conducive to increasing the diversity of the programs.

Which office is that?