s/o BC thread - Recs for kids who won't get in to BC or ND

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Anonymous wrote:Slim chance at Villanova as well. Not much better chance at Holy Cross, and no chance of any aid at either. Look lower.

I believe that's what this thread is all about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Slim chance at Villanova as well. Not much better chance at Holy Cross, and no chance of any aid at either. Look lower.

Yeah, Villanova and HC are not happening. I don’t think people realize how competitive these schools really have gotten!

[Anonymous]

Catholic schools do not offer more merit aid.

On the contrary, they are notoriously stingy.

Not true of many Jesuit schools.
See Duquesne, Marquette, the Loyolas (there are four of them), etc.

[Anonymous]

Santa Clara University

https://www.niche.com/colleges/santa-clara-university/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Take the 529 and change the beneficiary to your younger child.

Why?

It will not count to financial aid calc. Start as high as you can for financial aid - change beneficiary back for junior year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Santa Clara University

https://www.niche.com/colleges/santa-clara-university/

I don’t think so. It’s $72K/year and her son is below average for admissions so likely no merit aid.

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Anonymous wrote:What is it that DS finds appealing about ND and BC, besides the sportiness? If Catholic affiliation is key, that steers things in one direction. If being in a suburb near a real city is crucial, that's something different. If size matters... and on and on.

OP here. This is a good question. I know he appreciates the fact that the few kids he knows who went to one of those schools were kids he likes and relates to. Obviously, DH being an alum created a fan of DS, so since he's been to football games at both ND and BC, he knows the atmosphere in both places during football season. It's one that fits him. I think he believes that all the students at both of these schools are smart, but not too smart and not too bro-ish. That may be wrong, but it's an opinion he's kind of run with.

He goes to public HS in MD. He is more attracted to BC because of its proximity to Boston, without actually being in Boston. ND is simply ND in his mind and it's worthy of love, regardless of the fact it's in South Bend. Still, he's a realist and much more pragmatic than me and DH, he knows he doesn't have the resume to be accepted into either of these schools and it disappoints him. And, as a side note, it's really too bad that the middle-class, average to above-average, Catholic, sporty kid can't get into either of the two schools that were created for middle-class, average to above-average, Catholic, sporty kids. But, that's an argument for another thread.

He doesn't need to go to a Catholic school; however, we have heard (and a few PPs have confirmed) that they offer more merit aid. He wouldn't mind Big State U, but doesn't want to settle for 2nd tier state u. He'd rather go to smallish, private school and, based on his interests and financials, the Catholic universities seem to be a better fit.

I've really loved seeing all of these recommendations. They are opening up some schools that we never even considered. I'm going ask him to look into University of Rochester, Providence College, and Fairfield. Through my research since starting this thread, I've also found Siena, Stonehill, and Salve Regina. Does anyone know anything about these schools?

Catholic schools do not offer more merit aid.

On the contrary, they are notoriously stingy.

Not a universal truth.

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Anonymous wrote:Fordham, College of the Holy Cross, Villanova (although that might also be a stretch)

I love Fordham but remember it is in NYC and your son's COL will increase substantially compared to elsewhere. And it is on the West Coast but every kid I've ever known to go to Santa Clara University has flat out LOVED it. I cannot say enough good things about what I've heard from Santa Clara students.

Any chance your kid would like a Mid-West school other than ND? St. Louis University, Creighton and Marquette come to mind.

Fordham isn’t just in NYC. It’s in the Bronx, and not even the nicer part of the Bronx. I have friends who live in the Bronx and the stuff I hear about on a daily basis is not somewhere I’d want to send my kid.

[Anonymous]

OP, I'm late to this party but have a kid who is likely to have similar stats to your son (he's a bit younger still.) This thread got wrapped around the Catholic criteria but it seems like your real issue is money.

Instead of looking for a school just like BC or ND, you should start a new thread asking for suggestions for small, preppy East Coast schools that are generous w/merit aid for above-average sporty boys. I'm from New England and know plenty of successful people who went to Providence College, Fairfield, Trinity, Stonehill, and the like, but I have zero clue if any of those are good bets for merit aid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm late to this party but have a kid who is likely to have similar stats to your son (he's a bit younger still.) This thread got wrapped around the Catholic criteria but it seems like your real issue is money.

Instead of looking for a school just like BC or ND, you should start a new thread asking for suggestions for small, preppy East Coast schools that are generous w/merit aid for above-average sporty boys. I'm from New England and know plenty of successful people who went to Providence College, Fairfield, Trinity, Stonehill, and the like, but I have zero clue if any of those are good bets for merit aid.

One of these is not like the others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm late to this party but have a kid who is likely to have similar stats to your son (he's a bit younger still.) This thread got wrapped around the Catholic criteria but it seems like your real issue is money.

Instead of looking for a school just like BC or ND, you should start a new thread asking for suggestions for small, preppy East Coast schools that are generous w/merit aid for above-average sporty boys. I'm from New England and know plenty of successful people who went to Providence College, Fairfield, Trinity, Stonehill, and the like, but I have zero clue if any of those are good bets for merit aid.

One of these is not like the others.

Yeah, what’s up with people suggesting Trinity? Lol. Trinity attracts like the exact opposite type of student than OP’s son- hippy/hipster, Uber liberal, crunchy, etc. It doesn’t give merit aid, for one, and OP’s son’s statistics probably wouldn’t be a match.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm late to this party but have a kid who is likely to have similar stats to your son (he's a bit younger still.) This thread got wrapped around the Catholic criteria but it seems like your real issue is money.

Instead of looking for a school just like BC or ND, you should start a new thread asking for suggestions for small, preppy East Coast schools that are generous w/merit aid for above-average sporty boys. I'm from New England and know plenty of successful people who went to Providence College, Fairfield, Trinity, Stonehill, and the like, but I have zero clue if any of those are good bets for merit aid.

One of these is not like the others.

Yeah, what’s up with people suggesting Trinity? Lol. Trinity attracts like the exact opposite type of student than OP’s son- hippy/hipster, Uber liberal, crunchy, etc. It doesn’t give merit aid, for one, and OP’s son’s statistics probably wouldn’t be a match.

Trinity is actually a pretty preppy, Republican place, but it is harder to get into than Stonehill or Providence College.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm late to this party but have a kid who is likely to have similar stats to your son (he's a bit younger still.) This thread got wrapped around the Catholic criteria but it seems like your real issue is money.

Instead of looking for a school just like BC or ND, you should start a new thread asking for suggestions for small, preppy East Coast schools that are generous w/merit aid for above-average sporty boys. I'm from New England and know plenty of successful people who went to Providence College, Fairfield, Trinity, Stonehill, and the like, but I have zero clue if any of those are good bets for merit aid.

One of these is not like the others.

Yeah, what’s up with people suggesting Trinity? Lol. Trinity attracts like the exact opposite type of student than OP’s son- hippy/hipster, Uber liberal, crunchy, etc. It doesn’t give merit aid, for one, and OP’s son’s statistics probably wouldn’t be a match.

Trinity is actually a pretty preppy, Republican place, but it is harder to get into than Stonehill or Providence College.

Stonehill is ass. Last refuge for desperate athletes who will do anything to play fake D1 sports.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm late to this party but have a kid who is likely to have similar stats to your son (he's a bit younger still.) This thread got wrapped around the Catholic criteria but it seems like your real issue is money.

Instead of looking for a school just like BC or ND, you should start a new thread asking for suggestions for small, preppy East Coast schools that are generous w/merit aid for above-average sporty boys. I'm from New England and know plenty of successful people who went to Providence College, Fairfield, Trinity, Stonehill, and the like, but I have zero clue if any of those are good bets for merit aid.

One of these is not like the others.

Yeah, what’s up with people suggesting Trinity? Lol. Trinity attracts like the exact opposite type of student than OP’s son- hippy/hipster, Uber liberal, crunchy, etc. It doesn’t give merit aid, for one, and OP’s son’s statistics probably wouldn’t be a match.

Trinity is actually a pretty preppy, Republican place, but it is harder to get into than Stonehill or Providence College.

You’re right. I was thinking of Wesleyan when I wrote that.

[Anonymous]

I'm the New England PP who listed those schools and I wasn't trying to compare them - they were all suggested by other PPs in the previous 5 pages as possible substitutes for BC. My point was that it's kind of irrelevant who likes which of these schools if they are equally unaffordable for the OP. I don't know anything about merit aid at this stage of the game - but it seems to me that this is the most important criteria for the OP if she can't afford to pay for the type of school her son wants to attend.