VA MD DC Girls soccer - thoughts, opinions

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Anonymous wrote:Increase your chances of being scouted by college coaches in DA / ECNL - please. This means if you put those worlds on your playing resume, D2 and D3 schools will want you after the better players have already picked their schools.

If you're "that good", just attend the summer came of your college of choice and if you are that much of a superstar, you'll be noticed.

The DA gives all these girls a false impression that somehow they will make the national team or that there's a pathway to the national team. Very few. And those few that do were probably going to get there anyway without the DA.

It is also a way for USSF to standardize things coaching the way they like to do it and make things more homogeneous / structured, since we know that they are right about everything.

That's why all of our best players seem to have developed their talent overseas, right?

Name a U.S. women's national team player who developed overseas.

Following up -- I'm not counting players who have spent time in the European pro leagues. Christen Press found a good environment in Sweden when WPS folded and then stayed there for the first season of NWSL play, but she was already an experienced pro. Ali Krieger went to Europe when there was no pro league here and she didn't just want to do U.S. residency (or maybe wasn't invited, being underrated at the time). Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe have gone on loan to France several years into their careers. Crystal Dunn left the NWSL after three years to go to Chelsea, and frankly, she seems to have regressed.

The only WNT player I can think of who went to Europe before age 23 is Lindsey Horan, who skipped college to go pro in France. Even in her case, it's hard to say she "developed her talent" overseas. Refined a bit, sure, and it's an interesting debate to see whether she would've better off going to UNC.

So who am I missing?

I think going forward you will see more and more skipping college and going overseas. Pugh is wasting her time on the Spirit. It’s not really like the men’s side yet where they leave at 12, but Pugh would not develop in college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase your chances of being scouted by college coaches in DA / ECNL - please. This means if you put those worlds on your playing resume, D2 and D3 schools will want you after the better players have already picked their schools.

If you're "that good", just attend the summer came of your college of choice and if you are that much of a superstar, you'll be noticed.

The DA gives all these girls a false impression that somehow they will make the national team or that there's a pathway to the national team. Very few. And those few that do were probably going to get there anyway without the DA.

It is also a way for USSF to standardize things coaching the way they like to do it and make things more homogeneous / structured, since we know that they are right about everything.

That's why all of our best players seem to have developed their talent overseas, right?

Name a U.S. women's national team player who developed overseas.

Following up -- I'm not counting players who have spent time in the European pro leagues. Christen Press found a good environment in Sweden when WPS folded and then stayed there for the first season of NWSL play, but she was already an experienced pro. Ali Krieger went to Europe when there was no pro league here and she didn't just want to do U.S. residency (or maybe wasn't invited, being underrated at the time). Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe have gone on loan to France several years into their careers. Crystal Dunn left the NWSL after three years to go to Chelsea, and frankly, she seems to have regressed.

The only WNT player I can think of who went to Europe before age 23 is Lindsey Horan, who skipped college to go pro in France. Even in her case, it's hard to say she "developed her talent" overseas. Refined a bit, sure, and it's an interesting debate to see whether she would've better off going to UNC.

So who am I missing?

I think going forward you will see more and more skipping college and going overseas. Pugh is wasting her time on the Spirit. It’s not really like the men’s side yet where they leave at 12, but Pugh would not develop in college.

Would Pugh really be better off in Europe, winning games 9-0 with Lyon or Wolfsburg?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase your chances of being scouted by college coaches in DA / ECNL - please. This means if you put those worlds on your playing resume, D2 and D3 schools will want you after the better players have already picked their schools.

If you're "that good", just attend the summer came of your college of choice and if you are that much of a superstar, you'll be noticed.

The DA gives all these girls a false impression that somehow they will make the national team or that there's a pathway to the national team. Very few. And those few that do were probably going to get there anyway without the DA.

It is also a way for USSF to standardize things coaching the way they like to do it and make things more homogeneous / structured, since we know that they are right about everything.

That's why all of our best players seem to have developed their talent overseas, right?

Name a U.S. women's national team player who developed overseas.

Following up -- I'm not counting players who have spent time in the European pro leagues. Christen Press found a good environment in Sweden when WPS folded and then stayed there for the first season of NWSL play, but she was already an experienced pro. Ali Krieger went to Europe when there was no pro league here and she didn't just want to do U.S. residency (or maybe wasn't invited, being underrated at the time). Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe have gone on loan to France several years into their careers. Crystal Dunn left the NWSL after three years to go to Chelsea, and frankly, she seems to have regressed.

The only WNT player I can think of who went to Europe before age 23 is Lindsey Horan, who skipped college to go pro in France. Even in her case, it's hard to say she "developed her talent" overseas. Refined a bit, sure, and it's an interesting debate to see whether she would've better off going to UNC.

So who am I missing?

I think going forward you will see more and more skipping college and going overseas. Pugh is wasting her time on the Spirit. It’s not really like the men’s side yet where they leave at 12, but Pugh would not develop in college.

Would Pugh really be better off in Europe, winning games 9-0 with Lyon or Wolfsburg?

I would recommend any person in any country that is having another organization pay for their global travel, to take the chance. You can and will always be able to come back home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Increase your chances of being scouted by college coaches in DA / ECNL - please. This means if you put those worlds on your playing resume, D2 and D3 schools will want you after the better players have already picked their schools.

If you're "that good", just attend the summer came of your college of choice and if you are that much of a superstar, you'll be noticed.

The DA gives all these girls a false impression that somehow they will make the national team or that there's a pathway to the national team. Very few. And those few that do were probably going to get there anyway without the DA.

It is also a way for USSF to standardize things coaching the way they like to do it and make things more homogeneous / structured, since we know that they are right about everything.

That's why all of our best players seem to have developed their talent overseas, right?

Name a U.S. women's national team player who developed overseas.

Following up -- I'm not counting players who have spent time in the European pro leagues. Christen Press found a good environment in Sweden when WPS folded and then stayed there for the first season of NWSL play, but she was already an experienced pro. Ali Krieger went to Europe when there was no pro league here and she didn't just want to do U.S. residency (or maybe wasn't invited, being underrated at the time). Alex Morgan and Megan Rapinoe have gone on loan to France several years into their careers. Crystal Dunn left the NWSL after three years to go to Chelsea, and frankly, she seems to have regressed.

The only WNT player I can think of who went to Europe before age 23 is Lindsey Horan, who skipped college to go pro in France. Even in her case, it's hard to say she "developed her talent" overseas. Refined a bit, sure, and it's an interesting debate to see whether she would've better off going to UNC.

So who am I missing?

I think going forward you will see more and more skipping college and going overseas. Pugh is wasting her time on the Spirit. It’s not really like the men’s side yet where they leave at 12, but Pugh would not develop in college.

Would Pugh really be better off in Europe, winning games 9-0 with Lyon or Wolfsburg?

I would recommend any person in any country that is having another organization pay for their global travel, to take the chance. You can and will always be able to come back home.

Perhaps. But Crystal Dunn seems to have regressed at Chelsea.

[Anonymous]

Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

Agree, FCV, BRYC and Alexandria and throw in Barca

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

Agree, FCV, BRYC and Alexandria and throw in Barca

LMVSC tends to have some teams that like to play possession.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

The only 2 clubs in the area that play a possession style - club wide - are Alexandria and FCB Escola. It's possible some of the girls DA's do, but I couldn't say for sure. Per US Soccer they are supposed to, but lots of those girls weren't brought up that way and will revert to old habits when under pressure in a competitive game.

Other clubs may have a few teams here and there that play possession, but mostly what you see is simply horrendous soccer. Lots of "big kick", "down the line" (regardless of how many defenders are already in that space), dribbling into dead ends, "not across goal!", "not in the middle", and of course the ever ubiquitous - "GO!"

If you try to count the # of 4+ pass strings, or # of times a team even attempts a switch of play, ... it will be very depressing. It is not at all uncommon to watch a game between 2 supposedly "elite" teams and not see a single back pass the entire time. Not one.

Parents should demand more for their $$, but you have to know more to want more, and most don't.

[Anonymous]

It's very difficult for younger kids to play possession-oriented soccer and have success at building from the back when games are played on turf. DS team practices on grass but whatever progress they've made tends to evaporate on Sunday when the ball ping-pongs around. They don't have the kind of touch to overcome that, unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

Agree, FCV, BRYC and Alexandria and throw in Barca

LMVSC tends to have some teams that like to play possession.

McLean girls play possession.

Does Barca have a girls program?

[Anonymous]

They all claim to play possession style, go watch the clubs you are interested in and see for yourself. Our team does, but the club is a crap shoot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

Agree, FCV, BRYC and Alexandria and throw in Barca

LMVSC tends to have some teams that like to play possession.

McLean girls play possession.

Does Barca have a girls program?

Yes, Barca has a girls side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

Agree, FCV, BRYC and Alexandria and throw in Barca

LMVSC tends to have some teams that like to play possession.

McLean girls play possession.

Does Barca have a girls program?

Yes, Barca has a girls side.

Which Barca? At least one does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone name some clubs in the area that plays possession style soccer? From what I seen of FCV, that looks like one of the clubs?

BRYC and Alexandria are the two that come most to mind.

Agree, FCV, BRYC and Alexandria and throw in Barca

LMVSC tends to have some teams that like to play possession.

McLean girls play possession.

Does Barca have a girls program?

Yes, Barca has a girls side.

Which Barca? At least one does not.

FCB Escola.