Why don't classes be video'd or livestreamed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Class is not just a lecture to be watched. It is a community to participate in. If you are just watching from behind a screen you are not part of the classroom community.

I agree. I think about the groups in my classroom, the math and reading workshops, etc. I don't think anyone would gain much by watching through a video stream. I know the OP mentioned MS and HS, but my guess is many are no longer teaching through the old school lecture.

Exactly. Very little lecture/direct teaching anymore. And where it happens the most, tends to be in self-contained Special Ed, ESOL, and remedial where face to face interactions really matter. How would a teacher see if the student watching was disengaged or making errors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an IT guy, the technology is pretty simple. Many day care centers do it. Our church does it. Technologically...simple..not expensive.

But bureaucratically, it's prohibitive. By the time the bureaucrats and their consultants get done with it it would cost a fortune. These are the people that say it costs a million dollars to change a school name.

It's like putting GPS trackers on buses (a la Lyft/UBER) so you know when the bus will get to your stop. Technology...simple. Bureaucracy...impossible. They will hurt your head with reasons they can't do it.

The technology is not simple. It is one thing to have a simple camera filming whatever steps in its path. But... Teachers move around the room, there's always one kid who is not allowed to be photographed, interactive material wouldn't necessarily show up ... Sure, the technology to video a lecture is straightforward. Anything more complicated than that involves staffing.

This. I had to have permission slips to videotape for National Boards because I don't just stand at the front and lecture. Even when I have a short burst of teacher-led info or skill modeling, it's immediately followed by students practicing in groups, then individual practice as I circulate and coach. The child at home would miss 70% of how my students learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP - there are several "it's not possible" posts - but as I've said, I did not mean a personal attack in my response. I find it notable that you have not called out those posters whose posiotion is entirely assertion and ad hominem - but that is a digression.

I understand the privacy concern - however, while this may limit a live stream of a classroom to the public sphere, it does not limit several other approaches including the use of the on-line HS approach where the students clearly assent to being on video with a teacher (and perhaps other students). It is also possible that students/parents would consent to video if certain safeguards were employed. The benefits of access to various classes, avoiding transportation inefficiencies and more feedback from tutors/teachers would entice many students to participate. At the simplest, there could be a "corner" where the camera doesn't reach where non-consenting students could sit.

You mentioned that you have reviewed many of these programs - what is you professional opinion of the Stanford on-line HS, TECCA, and K12? What is preventing the Calc B/C teacher at TJHSS teaching an interactive, on-line class so that my son can take this class (when his HS can't staff it due to low interest). My wife subs Math and could teach full time as there are so few qualified upper level math teachers. What are the concerns/objections/issues with her setting up a course on-line that any interested student could participate in?

I am curious why you are asking these questions here and why you haven't gone to your school system to ask them. I know of several programs that are approved by local school systems that do allow for on-line participation by students for full credit and that would meet your son's needs for a Calc B/C class if it isn't being offered at his school. If your desire truly is to enroll your son in a Calc B/C class then there are lots of options already available for the students who meet the local systems' requirements. Why are you not making use of them?

As for your wife, she should get certified and begin teaching. Then perhaps she could work with her school system to set up a course system that you seem to prefer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP - there are several "it's not possible" posts - but as I've said, I did not mean a personal attack in my response. I find it notable that you have not called out those posters whose posiotion is entirely assertion and ad hominem - but that is a digression.

I understand the privacy concern - however, while this may limit a live stream of a classroom to the public sphere, it does not limit several other approaches including the use of the on-line HS approach where the students clearly assent to being on video with a teacher (and perhaps other students). It is also possible that students/parents would consent to video if certain safeguards were employed. The benefits of access to various classes, avoiding transportation inefficiencies and more feedback from tutors/teachers would entice many students to participate. At the simplest, there could be a "corner" where the camera doesn't reach where non-consenting students could sit.

You mentioned that you have reviewed many of these programs - what is you professional opinion of the Stanford on-line HS, TECCA, and K12? What is preventing the Calc B/C teacher at TJHSS teaching an interactive, on-line class so that my son can take this class (when his HS can't staff it due to low interest). My wife subs Math and could teach full time as there are so few qualified upper level math teachers. What are the concerns/objections/issues with her setting up a course on-line that any interested student could participate in?

I am curious why you are asking these questions here and why you haven't gone to your school system to ask them. I know of several programs that are approved by local school systems that do allow for on-line participation by students for full credit and that would meet your son's needs for a Calc B/C class if it isn't being offered at his school. If your desire truly is to enroll your son in a Calc B/C class then there are lots of options already available for the students who meet the local systems' requirements. Why are you not making use of them?

As for your wife, she should get certified and begin teaching. Then perhaps she could work with her school system to set up a course system that you seem to prefer.

I asked the questions here as the NP stated that s/he had evaluated a lot of these programs. I was hoping to benefit from that work that has been/is being done. We have managed my son's requirement with the school but it is inefficient and the on-line HS programs (which I recently learned about) appear to be a much more efficient set-up. As for my wife - yes, certification is not simple, and she doesn't really want to teach full time. This is another discussion - how the school systems can take advantage of very competent people who don't want to be full time teachers but have interest to teach one class (for example). Again, an on-line program (see Stanford, TECCA, K12 etc.) could make this a real opportunity. This is a big issue but maybe another thread.

I'm still interested in the evaluation of the on-line HS programs that NP mentioned - which programs, scope of review, outcomes...

[Anonymous]

Teachers unions would NEVER allow it. They'd think it would be opening the door to virtual teaching = fewer teachers teaching more kids.

Technology is really easy. All you need is a bluetooth mic and an iPhone on a tripod. Teacher can just upload the days lecture to youtube.

[Anonymous]

I did not read this whole thread but wanted to add that my Dd's algebra teacher at BTSN stated that she videos her classes and puts them online each week for anyone who is absent or wants to see the lesson again. This is at RCMS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did not read this whole thread but wanted to add that my Dd's algebra teacher at BTSN stated that she videos her classes and puts them online each week for anyone who is absent or wants to see the lesson again. This is at RCMS.

The entire class or her lecture?