What do you think/feel when someone tells you they are a nurse?

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Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.

Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?

Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?

Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.

+1. What a douche.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.

Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?

Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?

Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.

+1. What a douche.

Look, someone asked on an anonymous board about my gut-level impression of a profession. I provided mine. Most stereotypical impulses are simplistic and not particularly useful. I am open to being completely wrong but it doesn't negate my answer. I also said I could never do the job which is totally accurate - I am aware that being a nurse requires non "book-smart" skills that I will never ever have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they didn't become a PA.

And I would rather have the NP over the PA

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Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.

Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?

Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?

Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.

+1. What a douche.

Look, someone asked on an anonymous board about my gut-level impression of a profession. I provided mine. Most stereotypical impulses are simplistic and not particularly useful. I am open to being completely wrong but it doesn't negate my answer. I also said I could never do the job which is totally accurate - I am aware that being a nurse requires non "book-smart" skills that I will never ever have.

And your mistake is that for all your book smarts, you didn't know what the qualifications of a nurse are, educationally. Admitting that you believe a stereotype doesn't excuse it. It is an opportunity for you to not be wrong. Which you are. Nurses have science education. It's not always a four year degree and advanced coursework, but it's not NOT those things either. O-chem and A&P are required for RNs, full stop.

And you didn't say that you couldn't do the job. You said it was a job you'd never want, while insulting nurses by saying they were essentially too stupid to go to medical school. Own your first asshole response.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they didn't become a PA.

I wonder why they did not become a doctor, or pharmacist or some other better respected/paid health care professional

You sound pretty ignorant, CRNAs make 3 times what PAs make in many areas and are well respected. Also, not all nurses have to ask for urine, there are research nurses, informatic nurses, and many others.

This simply isn't true.

CRNAs like other APNs and PAs are mid level practitioners and generally speaking all make in 90 k to 150 k range. CRNAs are not making $300k.

I thought PAs were considered sort of a joke compared to NPs, but I think the titles are confusing and I am probably mixing them up

I think you are confusing PA for MA or medical assistant, and I wouldn't consider them a joke either.They have an important role to play, but I actually work in healthcare and don't take the attitude that salary equals someone's value.

The difference between PAs and NPs is in general how they are trained, but there is a ton of overlap between the careers. I'm an NP and my husband is a PA ( we didn't meet at work), and we're both of the mind that in the near future PAs and NPS will become obsolete in favor of a sole mid-level practitioner role .

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Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.

Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?

Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?

Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.

+1. What a douche.

Look, someone asked on an anonymous board about my gut-level impression of a profession. I provided mine. Most stereotypical impulses are simplistic and not particularly useful. I am open to being completely wrong but it doesn't negate my answer. I also said I could never do the job which is totally accurate - I am aware that being a nurse requires non "book-smart" skills that I will never ever have.

And your mistake is that for all your book smarts, you didn't know what the qualifications of a nurse are, educationally. Admitting that you believe a stereotype doesn't excuse it. It is an opportunity for you to not be wrong. Which you are. Nurses have science education. It's not always a four year degree and advanced coursework, but it's not NOT those things either. O-chem and A&P are required for RNs, full stop.

And you didn't say that you couldn't do the job. You said it was a job you'd never want, while insulting nurses by saying they were essentially too stupid to go to medical school. Own your first asshole response.

+ 1,000,000

- an ICU nurse

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I expect they aren't book smart enough to bena doctor but want to work in healthcare. Also know they have a job I have no interest in.

Really? How the f**k did you do in organic chemistry? Or were you an English major?

Really really well actually. Have taught organic chem to grad students. I also double majored in English. What is the point of this question?

Other than returning your condescension with condescension, I think the PP's point was that nursing education is hardly simply a few classes in bedside manner and how to take blood pressure. O-chem, anatomy and physiology and clinical rotations in different units as well as a bunch of other stuff I'm not familiar with because my best friend is a nurse, not me, result in a rigorous education that includes "book smarts." It doesn't sound like you actually know about nursing as a profession, just that you have encountered nurses, assumed they're stupid, and do not respect them.

What is your "prestigious" profession? Pray tell and we'll give you or gut level stereotypical reaction.

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I respect nurses immensely and am in awe of their skills. My stereotypical thoughts about a nurse are to picture a woman, clean, mentally stable, with a pleasant voice. I think nurses do not have bad breath and their fingernails are neatly trimmed.

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Sounds like they're as defensive as teachers the moment someone speaks in a slightly disparaging manner about their profession.

[Anonymous]

As an RN, I wonder what type of nursing they do!