DC council giving away DCPS property to Lab School

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...

You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.

No, this is a lie. More than half the students in the Hardy building live in DC. Many are funded by DCPS b/c they were unable to teach them in the public schools.

Before you go calling people liars, you got a cite for that? The legislation says 26% from DCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...

You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.

No, this is a lie. More than half the students in the Hardy building live in DC. Many are funded by DCPS b/c they were unable to teach them in the public schools.

Before you go calling people liars, you got a cite for that? The legislation says 26% from DCPS.

Those are kids with FUNDING. I can see the school directory. More than half the kids at the Hardy Building live in the district.

[Anonymous]

In 2015, 45 students at Lab (of 350 total) were placed there at DCPS expense.

See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...

You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.

No, this is a lie. More than half the students in the Hardy building live in DC. Many are funded by DCPS b/c they were unable to teach them in the public schools.

Before you go calling people liars, you got a cite for that? The legislation says 26% from DCPS.

Those are kids with FUNDING. I can see the school directory. More than half the kids at the Hardy Building live in the district.

So bsaed on the OSSE data, 26% is just wrong.

12% of students get funding. More kids live in the city and attend the Lab School but so what? It's still a private school.

Lab should be getting no better terms than they have given charters who take over surplused space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2015, 45 students at Lab (of 350 total) were placed there at DCPS expense.

See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf

Where did you get 350 total? There are less than 150 students at Lab in total.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In 2015, 45 students at Lab (of 350 total) were placed there at DCPS expense.

See this link, attachment F, page 5 http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf

Where did you get 350 total? There are less than 150 students at Lab in total.

Their website.

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More kids live in the city and attend the Lab School but so what? It's still a private school.

Lab should be getting no better terms than they have given charters who take over surplused space.

It's not just a "private school." It's designated as an LEA (Local Education Agency) by DCPS along with:

Chelsea School (Hyattsville, MD)
Childrens Guild - Prince George's (Chillum, MD)
Episcopal Center for Children (DC)
Harbour School Annapolis (Annapolis, MD)
Ivymount School (Rockville, MD)
Kennedy Krieger: Fairmont Campus (Baltimore, MD)
Kingsbury Day School (DC)
Lab School of Washington (DC)

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http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf

So if the DC kids didn't go to Lab, they would be sent somewhere else on this list. Lab isn't getting a "deal" compared to other charters. They are providing education that the charters don't provide.

[Anonymous]

I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf

[Anonymous]

So if the DC kids didn't go to Lab, they would be sent somewhere else on this list. Lab isn't getting a "deal" compared to other charters. They are providing education that the charters don't provide.

are any other schools on that list of LEAS getting land deals o. DCPS property? This school charges dcps 45 to 60 K per child too

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

More kids live in the city and attend the Lab School but so what? It's still a private school.

Lab should be getting no better terms than they have given charters who take over surplused space.

It's not just a "private school." It's designated as an LEA (Local Education Agency) by DCPS along with:

Chelsea School (Hyattsville, MD)
Childrens Guild - Prince George's (Chillum, MD)
Episcopal Center for Children (DC)
Harbour School Annapolis (Annapolis, MD)
Ivymount School (Rockville, MD)
Kennedy Krieger: Fairmont Campus (Baltimore, MD)
Kingsbury Day School (DC)
Lab School of Washington (DC)

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http://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2015%20Enrollment%20Audit%20Report.pdf

So if the DC kids didn't go to Lab, they would be sent somewhere else on this list. Lab isn't getting a "deal" compared to other charters. They are providing education that the charters don't provide.

Like all the other schools on the list, they are compensated by tuition for every student placed there. If the DC Council wants to reward them additionally with a favorable real estate deal, fine -- let's just use an ordinary process that doesn't use emergency legislation. And let's consider fair treatment between Lab and other schools on that list, and the needs of DCPS and public charter schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf

Plus, I don't think people who oppose Lab understand the concept of IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Act) or FAPE (Free Appropriate Public Education). The kids who are funded at Lab are there b/c they couldn't learn in the public school.

"If you have a child with a disability, your child is entitled to FAPE - a free appropriate public education, under the IDEA...In a nutshell, FAPE is an individualized educational program that is designed to meet the child's unique needs and from which the child receives educational benefit, and prepares them for further education, employment, and independent living."
http://www.wrightslaw.com/nltr/10/nl.0921.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf

It's being leased for a total of 50 years, and for the first 25, they would pay almost nothing. And it's being done on an "emergency" basis by the council, despite the fact that Lab's current lease isn't up for 7 years. What's the rush? Let the council answer some of the objections made in this thread.

You posted a link there. Not sure why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf

Plus, I don't think people who oppose Lab understand the concept of IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Act) or FAPE (Free Appropriate Public Education). The kids who are funded at Lab are there b/c they couldn't learn in the public school.

"If you have a child with a disability, your child is entitled to FAPE - a free appropriate public education, under the IDEA...In a nutshell, FAPE is an individualized educational program that is designed to meet the child's unique needs and from which the child receives educational benefit, and prepares them for further education, employment, and independent living."
http://www.wrightslaw.com/nltr/10/nl.0921.htm

I absolutely understand IDEA, IDEIA, and FAPE. It's not relevant at all. Lab educates some DCPS kids who have a nonpublic placement, and Lab is paid tuition in exchange for that. They are not a public agency. They are a private nonprofit school. Having public students placed there does not mean that the city provides them with space. They are responsible for their own finances. It's not complicated.

That doesn't equate to "opposing" Lab. I'm sure it's a great school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find the OP disingenuous that the OP said the property is being given away--it's being leased. Also, has anyone actually read DCPS strategic plan for facilities renovations?

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Final_2013_DC_Public_Education_Plan_Main_Part_1.pdf

A lease costing $80,000 which they wont have to pay because of credits is a steal in that neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did Washington Latin or Capitol City get such great deals? I know their buildings were in awful ondition...

You raise a good point: the terms that Lab is getting are far better than what public charter school are getting on former DCPS properties -- despite the fact that charters are actual public schools that serve DC residents, and Lab is a private school that primarily serves out-of-staters.

Ha! If this were the test, then the principals of a a number of DC public schools and charters should lose their funding -- because a substantial number of their students whose parents claim DC residency in fact reside out-of-state, especially in "Ward 9" (PG)!