High School Crew

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ah...all those schools being mentioned, I did a few threads back - forgot Blair though, SJC and Dematha. Didn't see any diversity in Churchill or Whitman or GZ, not too sure about WJ. Don't remember seeing any AA on the VA teams, but will take a look this Saturday..

Actually just take a look here as most schools are represented. http://www.sportgraphics.com/events/stotesbury-cup-regatta-2014

Nice shot of Holton http://www.sportgraphics.com/events/stotesbury-cup-regatta-2014#!/photo/2014-SC001-885?school=holton-arms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS is a very diverse school and the rowing team looked fantastic at a regatta the other day.

And everyone had a good long view of them because they were going so slowly behind the rest of the pack

Yeah, glad they looked so good because they rowed like crap.

Although MANY of their oars are apparently ticketed for whichever Ivy League team is eager to finish last in the conference.

[Anonymous]

Can we all get along?

[Anonymous]

Wow, I'm the adult recreational rower who commented awhile back. Really surprised to hear all the snark about different high school programs. I haven't run into that at my level. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it's out there but it's so disappointing.

[Anonymous]

My sense is that the snark is aimed primarily at the parent who said there is no diversity in crew because it's expensive (thus implying that all students of color at independent schools are poor), and at the Georgetown Day Troll who continues to claim their crew program has been heavily recruited by the Ivy League despite the absence of an alum on a single Ivy roster, and despite ongoing mediocre results.

But you are right, nobody should be snarking on the kids who are out there busting their tails to row.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My son is a minority who pays full tuition and he participates in crew. He's not the only one. Check your preconceived notions.

That's nice, but it's an overwhelmingly white sport in college and high schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a minority who pays full tuition and he participates in crew. He's not the only one. Check your preconceived notions.

That's nice, but it's an overwhelmingly white sport in college and high schools.

If people are serious about promoting socioeconomic diversity, the school crew clubs would earmark a significant amount of money for financial aid and make it clear that the school, not the parents, is in charge of the aid determination. That way not just the full-paying AA/Latino/White kids can row. Saying "rich people of every color can participate" is not a great recipe for diversity.

Why doesn't this happen? I will posit that it is for one of two reasons: (1) cost -- it's pricey to have to raise the money not just to fund the club and those sleek Vespoli shells, but to have a big enough pool to cover all potential financial aid need from year to year; and (2) competition -- parents who see crew as a potential ticket to a better college for their child don't have an incentive to expand the pool of potential competitors for places on the team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a minority who pays full tuition and he participates in crew. He's not the only one. Check your preconceived notions.

That's nice, but it's an overwhelmingly white sport in college and high schools.

If people are serious about promoting socioeconomic diversity, the school crew clubs would earmark a significant amount of money for financial aid and make it clear that the school, not the parents, is in charge of the aid determination. That way not just the full-paying AA/Latino/White kids can row. Saying "rich people of every color can participate" is not a great recipe for diversity.

Why doesn't this happen? I will posit that it is for one of two reasons: (1) cost -- it's pricey to have to raise the money not just to fund the club and those sleek Vespoli shells, but to have a big enough pool to cover all potential financial aid need from year to year; and (2) competition -- parents who see crew as a potential ticket to a better college for their child don't have an incentive to expand the pool of potential competitors for places on the team.

Maybe your school crew team works differently but if your team works the way it does in my child's school, then you don't have the slightest clue about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a minority who pays full tuition and he participates in crew. He's not the only one. Check your preconceived notions.

That's nice, but it's an overwhelmingly white sport in college and high schools.

And basketball has become overwhelmingly a sport for Afrocan-American makes. What of it? (or should teams put a quota on A-A's in order to have more diverse teams?)

[Anonymous]

Males

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:too expensive. we had to stop.

No diversity at HS level bc of the cost.

Kind of like how there's little diversity in varsity and college basketball these days....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My son is a minority who pays full tuition and he participates in crew. He's not the only one. Check your preconceived notions.

That's nice, but it's an overwhelmingly white sport in college and high schools.

And basketball has become overwhelmingly a sport for Afrocan-American makes. What of it? (or should teams put a quota on A-A's in order to have more diverse teams?)

Stupid AND racist -- a two-fer. (And great job defending the sport of rowing.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS is a very diverse school and the rowing team looked fantastic at a regatta the other day.

And everyone had a good long view of them because they were going so slowly behind the rest of the pack

Why the hating on GDS?

[Anonymous]

Here's a nice article in the NYT about US Rowing's recognition of the lack of diversity and their enlightened efforts to expand the scope of rowing beyond affluent whites:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/18/sports/rowing-toward-hope-in-a-troubled-world.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:GDS is a very diverse school and the rowing team looked fantastic at a regatta the other day.

And everyone had a good long view of them because they were going so slowly behind the rest of the pack

Why the hating on GDS?

People have allowed themselves to be baited by a troll who makes inflated claims about GDS's college admissions -- and has now branched into making claims about college recruiting at Ivies since the previous trolling was so successful. Gullible and angry types have then reacted by trashing GDS, thus delighting the troll.