132 Composite-- CogAT

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optional materials needed? (nat 155/ fxat 150)

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Jack of all trades master of none, that's really stupid

I completely agree with this! There are some very bright kids who are well rounded. However, there are also children who are brilliant in a specific area. These children should not be overlooked. They are the ones who could make a real difference in the world someday (technology fields, etc.).

Also, most of the kids who are "well rounded" with very balanced scores are the ones who have been prepped by their parents. They have seen tutors, attended test-prep classes, or at least completed a few practice ones. They have been put in every extracurricular activity possible since the age of one. In my opinion, a well balanced score simply indicates that a child has prepared for the test. A score that is not as well balanced shows a child's true abilities.

Correct, gifted is never well rounded which would defeat the idea of gifted. They screwed this one up.

Not really. My DC's scores were
V:133
Q:141
N:137
C:144
I didn't even know you could prep for the CogAT before finding this fourm. Even though DC's scores are close, I'd still consider Q the strength. Whether or not DC is 'gifted,' I do not know. I guess FCPS will let me know

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Anonymous wrote:optional materials needed? (nat 155/ fxat 150)

Probably not, but why risk getting hammered by a low GBRS? Our AART says she encourages all parents to fill out the questionnaire even if they don't submit anything else. It's good advice because I found out recently that my high-scoring DS is very subdued in class. It surprised me because he's always been very outgoing. Now I'm worried that his second grade teacher could give him a low GBRS. I'll be beefing up his file with optional materials just to make sure the committee sees how he is in other situations.

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Anonymous wrote:optional materials needed? (nat 155/ fxat 150)

Not a chance. That child is 100% in.

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Anonymous wrote:optional materials needed? (nat 155/ fxat 150)

IF my child had those scores, I would not submit anything else. Your child is clearly very gifted.

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Anonymous wrote:optional materials needed? (nat 155/ fxat 150)

Not a chance. That child is 100% in.

Yes, my child had average-y NNAT scores but a near-perfect Cogat and we didnt do any supplemental. I honestly dont think they really read it anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:optional materials needed? (nat 155/ fxat 150)

Probably not, but why risk getting hammered by a low GBRS? Our AART says she encourages all parents to fill out the questionnaire even if they don't submit anything else. It's good advice because I found out recently that my high-scoring DS is very subdued in class. It surprised me because he's always been very outgoing. Now I'm worried that his second grade teacher could give him a low GBRS. I'll be beefing up his file with optional materials just to make sure the committee sees how he is in other situations.

Better safe than sorry.

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Anonymous wrote:On the age adjusted scores, 129 composite is the 97th percentile and not in. So well under 3% of the test takers would qualify.

Either they are trying to drastically shrink the pool or they have a more nefarious agenda. I wish there was more (at least some) transparency.

129 on the age adjusted score is 97th percentile nationally but not in FCPS. Take a look at the local percentiles to get an idea of what % of FCPS kids scored higher. But 129 is a great score and shows high aptitude.

Correct, but that's the point. "gifted" is not a geographic thing, in the top 3% nationally usually meets the definition of gifted. With the demographics in FCPS 129 is not top 10% so to keep the numbers down, they set a bar based on geography. They are pretty clearly reducing the number of students who test into the pool.

But you can refer in and it you are the type of student that meets the unpublished subjective criteria you can still get in.

PP here. I hear you. We are in same boat with our kid who scored in the 120s - few points lower than yours. Would have been in pool last year based on one subscore over 132. I doubt our kid will make it in - not that great a student yet and would probably get a mediocre GBRS. Looking on the positive side, I figure main takeaway is our kids have good aptitude and if we can help them find their way should have some decent prospects down the road.

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That's correct. It is age-normed so it puts the older kids at a disadvantage instead of the younger ones. The older kids are basically being compared to 3rd graders for the scores that matter (composite score, etc.). For example, a child born in September may have done significantly better than a child born in October. However, the child born in September could still have a lower score because he/she is being compared to 3rd graders. This does not make sense to me since they are all applying for the same grade. It is completely unfair for an older child. We moved here from an area where the cutoff is August. Therefore, my kid is naturally old for his grade.

How do you know the older kids are being comparing to 3rd graders? CogAt test has different levels for different grades. There must be other kids at the same age as your son who also took the same test. So your older 2nd grader is just being compared to other older 2nd graders who took the same test.

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My son's NNAT 128,COGAT 123,FSIQ 130 ,VCI 116, PRI 121,WMI 138,PSI 121 .What are his chances of getting in AAP?

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Anonymous wrote:My son's NNAT 128,COGAT 123,FSIQ 130 ,VCI 116, PRI 121,WMI 138,PSI 121 .What are his chances of getting in AAP?

none

125.2857142857143

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That's correct. It is age-normed so it puts the older kids at a disadvantage instead of the younger ones. The older kids are basically being compared to 3rd graders for the scores that matter (composite score, etc.). For example, a child born in September may have done significantly better than a child born in October. However, the child born in September could still have a lower score because he/she is being compared to 3rd graders. This does not make sense to me since they are all applying for the same grade. It is completely unfair for an older child. We moved here from an area where the cutoff is August. Therefore, my kid is naturally old for his grade.

How do you know the older kids are being comparing to 3rd graders? CogAt test has different levels for different grades. There must be other kids at the same age as your son who also took the same test. So your older 2nd grader is just being compared to other older 2nd graders who took the same test.

They are compared to kids the same month, 1 month ahead and 1 month behind them.

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Anonymous wrote:My son's NNAT 128,COGAT 123,FSIQ 130 ,VCI 116, PRI 121,WMI 138,PSI 121 .What are his chances of getting in AAP?

none

125.2857142857143

I dint understand what's 125.2857142857143

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The 130 IQ might get him in. Depends on what cut score they use.

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Anonymous wrote:The 130 IQ might get him in. Depends on what cut score they use.

I agree the 130 IQ makes it a strong possibility, but there's no "cut score". The committee looks at the whole file and in this case, you need that. If the teachers give him a high GBRS and your optional materials are good, he's likely to get in.