Are Student Directories given only to PTA members?

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PTA Hater, please don't join the PTA. We don't need or want you. Go sit at home, save your $20 and complain about your kids school while doing nothing to help. I bet your kid is a nuisance too. Damn freeloader.

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I am so sick and tired of people posting NYT articles on our listserve about exercise, diet, cyberbullying, etc. When contacted if they would like to serve on a committee to actually help research the issue, develop a valid implementation to suggest to the school administration, secure volunteers to carry out the work. They refuse, they are too busy. They are not to busy to post an article to 600+ listserve members to show how intelligent/concerned they are, but expect the handful of overburdened PTA officers to implement their pet projects. Typical DC Metro parent. Just like "Ms. Hate the PTA from a PTO".

Me too! I know the importance of exercise, diet, bullying, it aggravates me to have my inbox flooded with these types of messages.

Importance of bullying? Freudian slip or are you completely missing the point. Read the articles. Just. Read. Them.

You know very well what I meant by my sentence and it was not a Freudian slip. I am not the wacko that started this thread nor am I one of those "holier than thou" DC metro parents that picks apart the grammar of every post, or sends out superfluous articles to an entire listserve. Use.Your.Brain. and stop being such an ass.

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Anonymous wrote:PTA Hater, please don't join the PTA. We don't need or want you. Go sit at home, save your $20 and complain about your kids school while doing nothing to help. I bet your kid is a nuisance too. Damn freeloader.

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And the OP complaining about $15 PTA dues but yet wants a free directory that the PTA spends hours putting together. Seriously?

The OP stated that she donates. I think if you contribute a dish for teacher appreciation, work the carnival or do any of the other endless volunteer jobs you have provided enough to get a directory. I think it's just looks cheap and manipulative to hold out the directory for membership.

PTA's pay 1.25 for Mont. Co PTA and 3.75 to Maryland and National PTA dues per every member. I can see the value in the Montgomery county PTA. but not the Maryland or National PTA organizations.

OP here. Actually I would like to pay for the directory, but not join the PTA. Infact, if the PTA charged me the same amount that a PTA membership costed (or slightly more), without making me a member, all that money would go to my school. I would prefer that.

I donate directly to the school for all kinds of things - teacher appreciation being one of them. I participate in PTA organized book fairs and have directly donated for fundraisers where children are supposed to sell things to the neighbors etc. I just do not want to be in the PTA because I feel that the PTA should be waiving any dues from poor SES schools.

Do you have a child in a high-poverty school, or is this just a general statement of principle?

If it's a statement of principle, what have you done to make your opinion clear to the people who could change the policy, or have you just refused to pay the PTA dues without any explanation?

I found about how the PTA dues were divvied up after my child was in a high-poverty school. I made the opinion clear to PTA (since I was an active member of the PTA board) but no dice. The PTA really did not bring much value to the school. The only fundraising that was effective was the scholastic book fair for the school. The PTA fees was only $6 because of the poverty level. So the school kept only $1 of the dues. If the MD and National PTA is so blind as to not be sensitive to the reality and need in such schools I do not have the time or inclination to be part of this group.

I just feel that my money is better served by giving directly to the school, which I do. I have not refused to pay PTA dues, I refuse to join the PTA as a member. Joining of PTA is not mandatory and so I do not owe them any dues whatsoever.

I prefer the model of PTO - I prefer that the school keeps the money - entirely. There is a reason that the PTAs across the nation is losing membership even as enrollments are rising.

http://www.ptotoday.com/pto-today-articles/article/292-pto-vs-pta-whats-the-difference



http://www.ptotoday.com/pto-today-articles/article/292-pto-vs-pta-whats-the-difference

See this is where you are ignorant. The PTA brings so much value to the school and could do even more if more people stopped complaining about the PTA and actually worked with the PTA. Our first restaurant night brought in over $1000. We just had a bake sale for election day. We sell spirit wear/magnets/water bottles, we sell coupon books, we do a book fair, we do a basket raffle. Someone works the shopping cards, another collects box tops. All of these things combine to bring over 5 figures back to the school each year. We just purchased 10 chrome books for the school, added new playground equipment 2 years ago, got our learning specialists laptops, and new speakers in the all-purpose rooms. A few years back we even purchased translator headphones. So that does not equal "bringing little value" to the school.

And they also run and plan many non-fundraising events. Dances, Talent Show, Storybook Night, Book Swap, International Night - all free to every student due to funding.

And they give back with Teacher Appreciation, Sponsor a Family in Need, Coat Drive, Veteran's Parade, School Supply Donate Day, Halloween costume drive, etc....

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Or are you the worst kind of ignorant - the DCUM ignorant?

There are alternatives to PTA and many people are following that model. PTO or non-affiliated parent groups being one. You can have everything that you mentioned without PTA in your school.

However, I support my school PTA by donating and helping. I just do not become a PTA member. My money, my choice!

You are honestly a horrible selfish mean-spirited person. You said and I quote "The PTA did not bring much value to the school" I responded that it could, especially if your work with and help them. So you can continue to be rude, mention PTO and other parent-based groups but unless you post some schools that have done this successfully and you plan on trying to do it yourself (you know, instead of just bitching about it) then what is your continued point of bashing the PTA and whining about a directory? You look like a fool.

Actually, you look like a fool. Why is it a concern to you if someone joins the PTA or not? I gave my reasons for not joining. It is valid for me. That is my view point.

Your ranting is inconsequential to me. And I do not accept your abuses - so sending it right back at you!

The only one ranting is your whining about a directory and the PTA should be a PTO. Isn't that your whol point of this thread?

And still waiting on you to post some MD schools who have successfully ousted the PTA for a PTO or parent-group. Oh, and are you going to help your child's school go in that direction or just keep posting opinionated comments while disregarding the legit questions people are asking you?

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11:34, here is some ad hominem for you - you are a moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PTA Hater, please don't join the PTA. We don't need or want you. Go sit at home, save your $20 and complain about your kids school while doing nothing to help. I bet your kid is a nuisance too. Damn freeloader.

Why not join the PTA and become your school's representative to MCCPTA. Then use that position to advocate for lower dues for high-poverty schools?

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Firework over?

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