Official Ebola update thread

Anonymous
When booking flights I am avoiding anything that connects through or lands at Dulles, Dallas, Newark, JFK, etc. I am also not booking on united.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand how the CDC didn't tell the healthcare workers who had treated Duncan - who were self monitoring themselves! - that it *might not be a good time to get on a plane*?!?!


This! Or I'd put it a little stronger... You are prohibited from travelling at all for at least 21 days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand how the CDC didn't tell the healthcare workers who had treated Duncan - who were self monitoring themselves! - that it *might not be a good time to get on a plane*?!?!


If people can enter the U.S. from other countries after contact with someone who has ebola, then nurses and other medical personnel in the US should be allowed to travel. You can not justify a probation on domestic travel with the borders open.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand how the CDC didn't tell the healthcare workers who had treated Duncan - who were self monitoring themselves! - that it *might not be a good time to get on a plane*?!?!


I can't believe Duncan got on a plane! This all started with him coming in contact with people with Ebola, lying, and coming here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When booking flights I am avoiding anything that connects through or lands at Dulles, Dallas, Newark, JFK, etc. I am also not booking on united.


ok. Are you taking your bubble as a carry on?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just don't understand how the CDC didn't tell the healthcare workers who had treated Duncan - who were self monitoring themselves! - that it *might not be a good time to get on a plane*?!?!


If people can enter the U.S. from other countries after contact with someone who has ebola, then nurses and other medical personnel in the US should be allowed to travel. You can not justify a probation on domestic travel with the borders open.


OK then, close borders from affected countries, monitor potentially affected people who had contact with Duncan or one of the two nurses or who rode the plane with her or afterwards.

Once this trail is closed out, keep borders closed for a bit. I think the money spent on chasing down the affected individuals in the US could be much better spent as aid in Liberia...

If another person enters the country with Ebola, maybe have a small well-trained staff treat them rather than expose 70+ improperly-protected healthcare workers (to then have to chase all over Texas)?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When booking flights I am avoiding anything that connects through or lands at Dulles, Dallas, Newark, JFK, etc. I am also not booking on united.


Why wouldn't you book on United? You might want to avoid American - they are hubbed in Dallas.

Just read this gem about Nurse 2, now identified as Amber Joy Vinson (who is being transferred to Emory): "The nurse was put into isolation within 90 minutes of reporting she had a fever."

NINETY MINUTES? I'm curious how this reporting process works.

Her plane landed at Dallas at 8:16 PM Monday night, Dallas Time.

Wednesday morning at 2 AM Dallas time, Frontier airlines was notified that a patient that had been on that plane had tested positive for Ebola.

We know that it takes at least several hours to test for Ebola. I believe her test was sent off to the state lab in Austin, which is 4 hours away by car or about a 45 minute flight.

Do the freaking math. She probably came home Monday night, self-reported Tuesday morning with a fever, and test came in positive Tuesday night.

BS that she wasn't contagious on that flight. Absolute BS.

Timeline from these two links:
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/second-health-care-worker-tests-positive-for-ebola-in-dallas.html/
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2014/10/cdc-says-second-nurse-diagnosed-with-ebola-flew-from-cleveland-to-dallas-the-day-before-she-reported-symptonms.html/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obama told people of West Africa in a video message that "you can't get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus". How does he know that no sick people with Ebola are on any buses in Africa. I would think they would be pretty crowded with lots of sweating and Ebola can live on surfaces for a while.


But apparently you can by sitting next to someone in a taxi, just like Duncan.
I am a HUGE liberal, and even I couldn't believe last week Obama had the nerve to go through with that Gwyneth Paltrow fundraiser, knowing all the press surrounding it and her gushing (you are so good looking) statements, with the situation in Texas unfolding. It really pisses me off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Now they have to figure out who the second nurse had contact with. There is no way they will be able to keep up with contact tracing.


If Nigeria could do it so can we.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obama told people of West Africa in a video message that "you can't get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus". How does he know that no sick people with Ebola are on any buses in Africa. I would think they would be pretty crowded with lots of sweating and Ebola can live on surfaces for a while.


But apparently you can by sitting next to someone in a taxi, just like Duncan.
I am a HUGE liberal, and even I couldn't believe last week Obama had the nerve to go through with that Gwyneth Paltrow fundraiser, knowing all the press surrounding it and her gushing (you are so good looking) statements, with the situation in Texas unfolding. It really pisses me off.


Yeah, I am a huge liberal and I couldn't figure it out either.
Anonymous
During a teleconference with reporters Wednesday, Centers for Disease Control Director Dr. Thomas Frieden said passengers on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 are at “extremely low risk” of being exposed.

Related
Second health care worker tests positive for Ebola in Dallas
Health-care worker Amber Vinson, who’d gone to Ohio to visit her mother, was not symptomatic when she boarded the return flight to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. But, Frieden said, Vinson did have a low-grade fever of 99.5 at the time. And because of her contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, Dallas’ initial Ebola patient, she should not have been traveling at all.

This statement says she had a fever on the flight!!! She also knew she had cared for Duncan. This really doesn't add up.
Anonymous
Second health care worker tests positive for Ebola in Dallas
Health-care worker Amber Vinson, who’d gone to Ohio to visit her mother, was not symptomatic when she boarded the return flight to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. But, Frieden said, Vinson did have a low-grade fever of 99.5 at the time. And because of her contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, Dallas’ initial Ebola patient, she should not have been traveling at all.


WTH? I was willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the nurse for the (seemingly unnecessary) risk of traveling after exposure, but then she *knowingly* gets on a plane with a fever???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:During a teleconference with reporters Wednesday, Centers for Disease Control Director Dr. Thomas Frieden said passengers on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 are at “extremely low risk” of being exposed.

Related
Second health care worker tests positive for Ebola in Dallas
Health-care worker Amber Vinson, who’d gone to Ohio to visit her mother, was not symptomatic when she boarded the return flight to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. But, Frieden said, Vinson did have a low-grade fever of 99.5 at the time. And because of her contact with Thomas Eric Duncan, Dallas’ initial Ebola patient, she should not have been traveling at all.

This statement says she had a fever on the flight!!! She also knew she had cared for Duncan. This really doesn't add up.



Well, this points to the complete failure of the CDC and the supposed protocols in place to protect the public. We've been assured that people in close contact with Duncan were being monitored and / or in self mposed quarantine. That the CDC had a team on the ground in Texas that was monitorin temperatures twice a day, etc, of anyone who came into contact with Duncan before and during his treatment at the hospital ... And yet this woman - the "second nurse" who contracted Ebola - was able to fly to Ohio and back without any issue.

I'm a liberal too but honestly, who the f is running this show and why is this spinning out of control so quickly?
Anonymous
"We will from this moment forward ensure that no other individual who is being monitored for exposure undergoes travel in any way other than controlled movement," Dr Frieden said, meaning, for example, in chartered flights or ambulances."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29632433

Doesn't this seem like it was a common sense action that should've been done from the outset?
Anonymous
The President should show leadership and invite all Ebola exposed people that haven't shown symptoms yet for a dinner with his family.
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