does anyone else find the social scene at Janney hard to take?

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Anonymous wrote:How do parents get one of the coveted Janney garage parking passes? A few parents have them. Are they the "queen bee" volunteers?

They buy them at the auction. $3-4k for a spot.

This being a Janney thread, I actually cannot tell if you are serious or this is a joke, people paying ("donating") for these privileges at a public school.

This is not a joke!

Back in the days before the construction, it was possible to buy a reserved parking spot in the teacher parking lot at the annual Mann auction. I don't remember what it would usually fetch. I do remember that one year it was won by a family whose kids were always late to school. It allowed them to pull in at 8:44 and drop their kids off before the second bell without having to waste time circling the block looking for parking.

It is still possible to buy prime reserved seating for the school play, principal for the day, sleepover birthday parties at school hosted by the principal, etc. at the Mann auction.

This seems wildly inappropriate, and possibly illegal.

Why do you think that it is inappropriate, PP? Do you think that offering perks to induce some families to give more to the school is inappropriate? After all, they are not offering better grades or more instruction time.

Why do you think it might be illegal? All proceeds from the Mann auction are used to support school programs.

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With the discussion of the new proposals I can't even imagine how difficult it might be for an at-risk child to be in this type of environment.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't sit well with me, as a person who paid for that parking lot with her taxes, that portions of that public property be resold (in shares) to a private individual.

This really isn't hard. What if I offered Janney so much money "for books" that administrators were persuaded to turn over the playground to my family each day from the hours of 11 to 1 pm. How does that sound? Ludicrous, I hope.

Defenders will argue against my playground plan by distinguishing the situation, saying it would harm students. True, but the principle is identical.

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Anonymous wrote:With the discussion of the new proposals I can't even imagine how difficult it might be for an at-risk child to be in this type of environment.

This is so, so true.

There is an EOTP child in my child's Janney class that we've had play dates with. The parents have told me that many of the other parents in the class have declined play dates repeatedly because the child lives across the park (and the OOB parent has then seen the kids going home with neighborhood kids the same day).

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One of my child's best friends at Janney is eotp but play dates are a pain in the ass... Neither parent wants to do the drive at rush hour. It doesn't have to do with anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't sit well with me, as a person who paid for that parking lot with her taxes, that portions of that public property be resold (in shares) to a private individual.

This really isn't hard. What if I offered Janney so much money "for books" that administrators were persuaded to turn over the playground to my family each day from the hours of 11 to 1 pm. How does that sound? Ludicrous, I hope.

Defenders will argue against my playground plan by distinguishing the situation, saying it would harm students. True, but the principle is identical.

Your attempt at logic is flawed on many levels.

First, the teacher's lot would not be a public good that is meant to be equally accessible to all individuals. If the principal and teachers don't mind sharing their resource for the good of the school, who are you to complain?

Second, saying the principle is identical is like equating robbing a bank to eating a grape at the supermarket. What's your actual point?

[Anonymous]

Having the principal host a sleepover at the school allows preferential access to a public good (and a public resource) by the wealthy. It also sends a terrible message to the kids: rich families can curry favor and get extra social access to the principal, receive perks etc. Parking spaces , even in the teachers' lot, are still public property. If you auction off public property, there are rules governing how that is done, and the auction generally must be open to the general public, not just school parents.

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I think the auctions are open to the public. I always see posts on the listserves about them. Why would a school limit themselves to only take donations from parents?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do parents get one of the coveted Janney garage parking passes? A few parents have them. Are they the "queen bee" volunteers?

They buy them at the auction. $3-4k for a spot.

This being a Janney thread, I actually cannot tell if you are serious or this is a joke, people paying ("donating") for these privileges at a public school.

This is not a joke!

Back in the days before the construction, it was possible to buy a reserved parking spot in the teacher parking lot at the annual Mann auction. I don't remember what it would usually fetch. I do remember that one year it was won by a family whose kids were always late to school. It allowed them to pull in at 8:44 and drop their kids off before the second bell without having to waste time circling the block looking for parking.

It is still possible to buy prime reserved seating for the school play, principal for the day, sleepover birthday parties at school hosted by the principal, etc. at the Mann auction.

This seems wildly inappropriate, and possibly illegal.

And very 1%. I'm surprised there hasn't been an Occupy Janney movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How do parents get one of the coveted Janney garage parking passes? A few parents have them. Are they the "queen bee" volunteers?

They buy them at the auction. $3-4k for a spot.

This being a Janney thread, I actually cannot tell if you are serious or this is a joke, people paying ("donating") for these privileges at a public school.

This is not a joke!

Back in the days before the construction, it was possible to buy a reserved parking spot in the teacher parking lot at the annual Mann auction. I don't remember what it would usually fetch. I do remember that one year it was won by a family whose kids were always late to school. It allowed them to pull in at 8:44 and drop their kids off before the second bell without having to waste time circling the block looking for parking.

It is still possible to buy prime reserved seating for the school play, principal for the day, sleepover birthday parties at school hosted by the principal, etc. at the Mann auction.

This seems wildly inappropriate, and possibly illegal.

And very 1%. I'm surprised there hasn't been an Occupy Janney movement.

You know, Vibram Five Finger shoes are very popular with those Occupy people. Just saying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't sit well with me, as a person who paid for that parking lot with her taxes, that portions of that public property be resold (in shares) to a private individual.

This really isn't hard. What if I offered Janney so much money "for books" that administrators were persuaded to turn over the playground to my family each day from the hours of 11 to 1 pm. How does that sound? Ludicrous, I hope.

Defenders will argue against my playground plan by distinguishing the situation, saying it would harm students. True, but the principle is identical.

Your attempt at logic is flawed on many levels.

First, the teacher's lot would not be a public good that is meant to be equally accessible to all individuals. If the principal and teachers don't mind sharing their resource for the good of the school, who are you to complain?

Second, saying the principle is identical is like equating robbing a bank to eating a grape at the supermarket. What's your actual point?

The logic works fine. You're hung up on scale, grape lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Having the principal host a sleepover at the school allows preferential access to a public good (and a public resource) by the wealthy. It also sends a terrible message to the kids: rich families can curry favor and get extra social access to the principal, receive perks etc. Parking spaces , even in the teachers' lot, are still public property. If you auction off public property, there are rules governing how that is done, and the auction generally must be open to the general public, not just school parents.

You sound like a frustrated former law associate turned SAHM. This is school auction 101, not a civil rights suit. Get perspective, or perhaps a hobby for your energies. There's always the garden club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With the discussion of the new proposals I can't even imagine how difficult it might be for an at-risk child to be in this type of environment.

This is so, so true.

There is an EOTP child in my child's Janney class that we've had play dates with. The parents have told me that many of the other parents in the class have declined play dates repeatedly because the child lives across the park (and the OOB parent has then seen the kids going home with neighborhood kids the same day).

EotP doesn't always equal "at risk." The EotP child in your child's class might be "at risk" but there are plenty of kids EotP who are wealthy. This is why WotP parents have issues with many of the proposed boundary changes because they all think EotP is the ghetto. Get out more people!

[Anonymous]

There are many EoTP families at Janney. They rent IB for a little while when their house is being renovated and stay.

Defniitely not "at risk kids". Just families connected enough to work the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having the principal host a sleepover at the school allows preferential access to a public good (and a public resource) by the wealthy. It also sends a terrible message to the kids: rich families can curry favor and get extra social access to the principal, receive perks etc. Parking spaces , even in the teachers' lot, are still public property. If you auction off public property, there are rules governing how that is done, and the auction generally must be open to the general public, not just school parents.

You sound like a frustrated former law associate turned SAHM. This is school auction 101, not a civil rights suit. Get perspective, or perhaps a hobby for your energies. There's always the garden club.

Well said.