Walkability, house size, etc

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Europe and walking was important to me, I didn't know about walk score but just looked ours up - it's 96.

I live in a 3 bedroom condo downtown, but I probably don't need/want as much stuff as most Americans seem to. You guys seem to always want more stuff.

We rarely drive and walk everywhere. Which is probably why we aren't as fat as most of you.

I want you to take your smug ass outta here and STFU. Is that too mich "stuff" to want?

Hit a little too close to home for you, PP? Our European friend has merely pointed out a few facts -- do you disagree that in general Americans have more stuff and are fatter than Europeans? Not need to take it so personally.

Why come to a predominately American forum and be rude? And stop being such a sycophant.

I am an American that grew up in the car-dependent suburbs of Fairfax county. I lived in Europe in my late 20s/early 30s and grew to love the walkability and car-free city centers. It completely opened my eyes and changed my perspective.

We came back and bought our first home in Dupont. When we had second kid we moved to a close-in neighborhood with a 97-walk score and great public schools. Americans don't get this because it is counter-intuitive to the 1950s American dream--big yard, big house, etc.

And big fucking gas-guzzling SUV/truck...yee-haw!!

[Anonymous]

Why don't all of the anti-walkers go start your own forum -- DC unUrban Moms & Dads -- since the whole urban thing isn't working out for you. I would venture to say that most people who want to live in an urban setting would prefer to live in a walkable area and have good public transportation options* available.

*spin off topic - compared to other large metropolitan areas, DC public transportation sucks so people end up driving more than they'd like.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Europe and walking was important to me, I didn't know about walk score but just looked ours up - it's 96.

I live in a 3 bedroom condo downtown, but I probably don't need/want as much stuff as most Americans seem to. You guys seem to always want more stuff.

We rarely drive and walk everywhere. Which is probably why we aren't as fat as most of you.

I want you to take your smug ass outta here and STFU. Is that too mich "stuff" to want?

Hit a little too close to home for you, PP? Our European friend has merely pointed out a few facts -- do you disagree that in general Americans have more stuff and are fatter than Europeans? Not need to take it so personally.

Why come to a predominately American forum and be rude? And stop being such a sycophant.

Rude, you say? You're the one cursing. Go back to your hoarding and ho hos if you can't stand to hear a different, more global (ha!) perspective.

Your perspective is hardly global if you think those who don't live like you are fat hoarders. you're provincial, and a mental midget.

Wow - you told me! So go off then, and purge away your various sins. Your secret is safe with me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Common theme in this forum is for people to discuss walkability. If you don't want it, you are somehow not 'normal'. Additionally, there's house size as in "you don't NEED more than X square feet".

Who determines what someone else needs? Who determines walkability? Why are these things considered desirable? Isn't desirable what works for you? And isn't it possible that what works for you isn't what works for someone else?

Why is "walkability" considered desirable? Why indeed, when you can just waddle out of your mcmansion into your H2 and drive past the cookie-cutter Mcmansions to Appleby's drive through for their gallon of mochachoochoo latte grande with fries? Drive to your mega-church on sundays to pray together with your vacuous neighbors? Then retreat to your basement theater to watch 4 hours of RHNY while scoffing down nachos drenched in kraft cheese?

Who is to say that is wrong?

PP, you're dumb. Applebee's doesn't have drive throughs. Why do you have so much hatred for people who enjoy a simple comfortable life in the suburbs? And what's wrong with praying and religion? Stop listening to Bill Maher, that cesspool of a human being!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Europe and walking was important to me, I didn't know about walk score but just looked ours up - it's 96.

I live in a 3 bedroom condo downtown, but I probably don't need/want as much stuff as most Americans seem to. You guys seem to always want more stuff.

We rarely drive and walk everywhere. Which is probably why we aren't as fat as most of you.

I want you to take your smug ass outta here and STFU. Is that too mich "stuff" to want?

Hit a little too close to home for you, PP? Our European friend has merely pointed out a few facts -- do you disagree that in general Americans have more stuff and are fatter than Europeans? Not need to take it so personally.

Why come to a predominately American forum and be rude? And stop being such a sycophant.

I am an American that grew up in the car-dependent suburbs of Fairfax county. I lived in Europe in my late 20s/early 30s and grew to love the walkability and car-free city centers. It completely opened my eyes and changed my perspective.

We came back and bought our first home in Dupont. When we had second kid we moved to a close-in neighborhood with a 97-walk score and great public schools. Americans don't get this because it is counter-intuitive to the 1950s American dream--big yard, big house, etc.

You could not sound like more of an imbecile if you tried. You are American, but think living in Europe for a brief stint equips you to judge how other Americans think and what they "get." Moron.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like to walk places. I wish you did to, because I think it's better for everyone.

So the farmers who can't walk anywhere except into their fields should fold up shop and move to the big city? Let's see how that works out for everyone!

We're currently house-hunting in another city. I mentioned walkability to the realtor and she's sending me links to houses in subdivisions with nice walking trails or where lots are less than 1/2 acre so that neighbors walk to each others' houses. The concept of walking to a retail district didn't occur to her.

The reality is that for many of us, even if we live smack in the heart of downtown, walkability only takes us so far. My job is in the suburbs in an area where I sure as hell wouldn't want to live. I work FT so I can't make 3 trips to the store each week with my pullcart - I drive to the walking-distance store and buy a week or two worth of groceries at a time.

Until we move back to a time when everyone lives and works in their very own neighborhood, it can only be one of many types of priorities that people have.

Sheesh people, where you choose to live is not one of those things that should draw hate from everyone else!

The farmers I know get plenty of exercise and movement in their lives plus the total lack of walk ability in their lives has a very specific purpose (feeding us).

And where walkbility ends, for many urban people mass transit starts. So it doesn't matter so much if you live where you work if it's accessible by Metro or bus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In europe crushing taxes and high unemployment make people poor so you have to walk.

No poor people here in the USA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Europe and walking was important to me, I didn't know about walk score but just looked ours up - it's 96.

I live in a 3 bedroom condo downtown, but I probably don't need/want as much stuff as most Americans seem to. You guys seem to always want more stuff.

We rarely drive and walk everywhere. Which is probably why we aren't as fat as most of you.

I want you to take your smug ass outta here and STFU. Is that too mich "stuff" to want?

Hit a little too close to home for you, PP? Our European friend has merely pointed out a few facts -- do you disagree that in general Americans have more stuff and are fatter than Europeans? Not need to take it so personally.

Why come to a predominately American forum and be rude? And stop being such a sycophant.

I am an American that grew up in the car-dependent suburbs of Fairfax county. I lived in Europe in my late 20s/early 30s and grew to love the walkability and car-free city centers. It completely opened my eyes and changed my perspective.

We came back and bought our first home in Dupont. When we had second kid we moved to a close-in neighborhood with a 97-walk score and great public schools. Americans don't get this because it is counter-intuitive to the 1950s American dream--big yard, big house, etc.

You could not sound like more of an imbecile if you tried. You are American, but think living in Europe for a brief stint equips you to judge how other Americans think and what they "get." Moron.

I'm not the immediate PP, but are you really disagreeing that the typical American dream is a big yard, big house, etc.? And why are you so quick to call names? Still a touchy subject for you or are you just that rude poster who likes to curse and call names without really proving any point?

[Anonymous]

My favorite American trait is when you all get into your cars to drive to the gym.

Seriously, what is up with that?

[Anonymous]

Wait so it's walkability to retail? I thought i could walk trails and nice parks? Does that mean I have to drag my plasma tv on my back after the grocery trip?

Should I purchase a mule or does capital bike share have a hauling platform on their bikes?

[Anonymous]

What is this gym you speak of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Common theme in this forum is for people to discuss walkability. If you don't want it, you are somehow not 'normal'. Additionally, there's house size as in "you don't NEED more than X square feet".

Who determines what someone else needs? Who determines walkability? Why are these things considered desirable? Isn't desirable what works for you? And isn't it possible that what works for you isn't what works for someone else?

Why is "walkability" considered desirable? Why indeed, when you can just waddle out of your mcmansion into your H2 and drive past the cookie-cutter Mcmansions to Appleby's drive through for their gallon of mochachoochoo latte grande with fries? Drive to your mega-church on sundays to pray together with your vacuous neighbors? Then retreat to your basement theater to watch 4 hours of RHNY while scoffing down nachos drenched in kraft cheese?

Who is to say that is wrong?

PP, you're dumb. Applebee's doesn't have drive throughs. Why do you have so much hatred for people who enjoy a simple comfortable life in the suburbs? And what's wrong with praying and religion? Stop listening to Bill Maher, that cesspool of a human being!

simple is as simple does

I think PP just watches those mega-church broadcast right to his/her home theater - right before switching to FoxNews. no need to actually leave the house for McSermons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like to walk places. I wish you did to, because I think it's better for everyone.

Who are you to decide what's best for everyone?

I'm not the PP but I think it's universally accepted that it is better for everyone globally. But some people don't think globally.

Universally accepted by who? And why is globally better?

You must be a Republican.

Yep. Can you tell me why global is better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Common theme in this forum is for people to discuss walkability. If you don't want it, you are somehow not 'normal'. Additionally, there's house size as in "you don't NEED more than X square feet".

Who determines what someone else needs? Who determines walkability? Why are these things considered desirable? Isn't desirable what works for you? And isn't it possible that what works for you isn't what works for someone else?

Why is "walkability" considered desirable? Why indeed, when you can just waddle out of your mcmansion into your H2 and drive past the cookie-cutter Mcmansions to Appleby's drive through for their gallon of mochachoochoo latte grande with fries? Drive to your mega-church on sundays to pray together with your vacuous neighbors? Then retreat to your basement theater to watch 4 hours of RHNY while scoffing down nachos drenched in kraft cheese?

Who is to say that is wrong?

PP, you're dumb. Applebee's doesn't have drive throughs. Why do you have so much hatred for people who enjoy a simple comfortable life in the suburbs? And what's wrong with praying and religion? Stop listening to Bill Maher, that cesspool of a human being!

simple is as simple does

I think PP just watches those mega-church broadcast right to his/her home theater - right before switching to FoxNews. no need to actually leave the house for McSermons.

I am sure your husband is at the latest swingers parts not catching hep c.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Europe and walking was important to me, I didn't know about walk score but just looked ours up - it's 96.

I live in a 3 bedroom condo downtown, but I probably don't need/want as much stuff as most Americans seem to. You guys seem to always want more stuff.

We rarely drive and walk everywhere. Which is probably why we aren't as fat as most of you.

I want you to take your smug ass outta here and STFU. Is that too mich "stuff" to want?

Hit a little too close to home for you, PP? Our European friend has merely pointed out a few facts -- do you disagree that in general Americans have more stuff and are fatter than Europeans? Not need to take it so personally.

Why come to a predominately American forum and be rude? And stop being such a sycophant.

I am an American that grew up in the car-dependent suburbs of Fairfax county. I lived in Europe in my late 20s/early 30s and grew to love the walkability and car-free city centers. It completely opened my eyes and changed my perspective.

We came back and bought our first home in Dupont. When we had second kid we moved to a close-in neighborhood with a 97-walk score and great public schools. Americans don't get this because it is counter-intuitive to the 1950s American dream--big yard, big house, etc.

So what you are saying is that we would allll change our minds if we had our eyes opened? Why are you so sure that your feelings would be shared?