Will Private school want to redshirt summer bday DS?

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Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)

Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.

I am familiar with Baltimore privates making recommendations based on the individual children, beyond just birthday, with some kids progressing normally and others held back but from what I have seen the decision is given to the parent.

My son is a midsummer birthday at Gilman who was redshirted, about a quarter of the class is older than him, and another quarter of the class same age (redshirted summer kids). If pp’s kids were put into this class, they would be a year to 18 months younger than half the class. Athletic holdbacks are not common at Gilman but you will find them at some of the other Baltimore privates so age differences in high school will be even more extreme. The Calvert School is very aggressive with redshirting for both girls and boys.

I expect the progressive schools like Park and Friends may be more flexible. If a school has prefirst, however, expect a high percentage of redshirting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)

Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.

I am familiar with Baltimore privates making recommendations based on the individual children, beyond just birthday, with some kids progressing normally and others held back but from what I have seen the decision is given to the parent.

My son is a midsummer birthday at Gilman who was redshirted, about a quarter of the class is older than him, and another quarter of the class same age (redshirted summer kids). If pp’s kids were put into this class, they would be a year to 18 months younger than half the class. Athletic holdbacks are not common at Gilman but you will find them at some of the other Baltimore privates so age differences in high school will be even more extreme. The Calvert School is very aggressive with redshirting for both girls and boys.

I expect the progressive schools like Park and Friends may be more flexible. If a school has prefirst, however, expect a high percentage of redshirting.

Thanks this is helpful!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on the school. For example, GDS: no. Beauvoir and Sidwell: highly probable.

BVR family here—they told us to send our late May birthday along, no redshirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)

Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.

I am familiar with Baltimore privates making recommendations based on the individual children, beyond just birthday, with some kids progressing normally and others held back but from what I have seen the decision is given to the parent.

It really depends where you are. At Gilman about 80% of summer birthdays do Prep 1st - but I do know parents who have specifically refused the recommendation. Of those kids, some have done very well, and some haven’t. In my experience all not all non-redshirted summer birthdays have behavioral and social issues, but all the boys with behavioral and social issues are non-redshirted summer birthdays.

It’s up to you to make the decision for your kid, even at a place like Gilman that makes strong recommendations. But be honest about your kid’s emotional maturity and social skills. Your kid is going to be with their cohort for a long time, and getting off on the wrong foot can be tough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)

Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.

I am familiar with Baltimore privates making recommendations based on the individual children, beyond just birthday, with some kids progressing normally and others held back but from what I have seen the decision is given to the parent.

It really depends where you are. At Gilman about 80% of summer birthdays do Prep 1st - but I do know parents who have specifically refused the recommendation. Of those kids, some have done very well, and some haven’t. In my experience all not all non-redshirted summer birthdays have behavioral and social issues, but all the boys with behavioral and social issues are non-redshirted summer birthdays.

It’s up to you to make the decision for your kid, even at a place like Gilman that makes strong recommendations. But be honest about your kid’s emotional maturity and social skills. Your kid is going to be with their cohort for a long time, and getting off on the wrong foot can be tough.

Also very helpful!

[Anonymous]

Just here to say we moved here from a state where 1/3 of the class started K as a 6 yo due to redshirting or “primer k” and regular K at the schools.

It made little difference to academics, social, or travel sports teams (by birth year or birth date).

It only mattered for the school sports teams, some of which were pretty awesome in the AAAAA conferences. And this was for sports where you wanted a big, strong or fast physique.

It was pretty myopic frankly.

Driving as a freshman was also accident city.

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* We watched the age differences play out k-10th grade and it was negligible.

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Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.

Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.

You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on the school. For example, GDS: no. Beauvoir and Sidwell: highly probable.

BVR family here—they told us to send our late May birthday along, no redshirt.

June 1, summer, is the mark BVR begins to recommend redshirting. You can be May 31 and be fine and June 1 is recommended to redshirt.

And we all know privates build their classrooms. If you're child has a June 1 +later birthday and wasn't redshirted, they probably needed him to balance the classroom. Think critically about demographics and you'll have your answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.

Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.

You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.

That's the opposite of what I've seen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)

Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.

So, some of these kids are 20 if they are held back and do two years of first grade. Ever consider the issue is the school and not the child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.

Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.

You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.

What the heck?
For how many years are kids supposedly doing that?
And if it’s beyond grade 2 or 3 someone needs a neuropsych.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We applied to Baltimore privates from out of state and our summer and early fall birthday boys were not asked to repeat their grade at the schools they where were accepted. (coming in late elementary school)

Then your kids will be a year to 18 months younger than their classmates. Because the Baltimore private schools definitely hold back all summer and some spring birthdays.

So, some of these kids are 20 if they are held back and do two years of first grade. Ever consider the issue is the school and not the child?

Huh? Literally no school does this. Stop making stuff up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.

Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.

You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.

What the heck?
For how many years are kids supposedly doing that?
And if it’s beyond grade 2 or 3 someone needs a neuropsych.

Kids don't do this in DC's pre-k. What the heck kind of schools are you paying money for where the choice is to retain kids or have them run wild??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beauvoir has brought up retention for our June kindergartener son. They claim impulsiveness/immaturity.. academics aren’t a concern. Many of the boys in his class are six going on seven, however the girls are mostly five or have just turned six.

Those older kids aren't more mature, just older. I'd worry about a school that doesn't have age appropriate expectations and holds back kids based off their needs.

You can always figure out who the youngest are. They stand out in behavior and the stories your child brings home. And based on my experience and what I've seen, it is absolutely immaturity and lack of self-regulation. Storming away from the class during assemblies, snatching away from teachers, hitting/punching other students, yelling when they don't get their way, not being able to engage appropriately on the carpet. And that's only what I've seen on the rare occasion I'm in the class for no more than 30 min at a time. They may have the academics, but they don't know how to be in a classroom at all and it shows even when lined up to the younger boys who have February-May birthdays... so it's probably a personality/developmental thing.

Mine has never ever done those things. It's generally the older kids who are bored or have other issues going on that aren't getting the help they need. Mine was taught in preschool how to behave. These schools sound terrible if they aren't preparing these kids properly or taking in the wrong kids.