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Anonymous wrote:So tired of people always crying politics or favoritism when their kids dont get chosen. It bleeds down to the players and creates a culture of excuses as opposed to working harder to be better.


so tired of people who complain that all it takes is to "work harder" when there is clear favoritism at play. It wouldn't be such a trope if it wasn't at least a "bit" true. It sucks, but sometimes a decision is made early on and there is nothing the player can do to overcome it.


That is a poor attitude. There are plenty of ways to overcome it.


Explain. Do you mean by working hard to become so good it's undeniable? Or do you mean by deciding to play the political game too? Often the latter is far easier, imo.


How many times can your kid juggle in a row? Can they keep up the ball 50x in a row with laces, inside foot, outside foot, thighs, chest and head?

Are their 5-10-5 shuttle, 400m, 800m and 1,600m times in the top 10% percentile of your age group.

Can they win 25% of their 1v1’s?

Is your kid scanning at least every 10-15 seconds (which is a slow rate) and able to scan and turn with anticipation?

Are they proficient with shooting, passing and receiving with both their left foot and right foot?

How is their ankle flexion, hip mobility and CofD agility?

After all of that, can they play in a neutral field without their squad or support from Mommy and Daddy?

Everybody wants to talk a great game without acknowledging the work. If you don’t get picked, pick a question above and start doing the work to become undeniable.


Juggling is for clowns and if the coach thinks it's a good metric of talent then they're a clown too.


So you don’t care about first touch and ball control?


Not every kid needs juggling to develop their first touch and ball control.
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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


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No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Winningest team in my state (by far) at my kid’s age group has two skilled midfielders who are about equal to other team’s most skilled. But they have the four fastest players in state at the four corners. Those kids just run down long balls over the top all day. Maybe they’re skilled, but you’d never know because they spend so much time running without the ball. Any team in state would instantly bump their starters to get one of those four kids based on speed alone.


Age, state and level would be a nice preface.

This must be WV NCSL equivalent of U9. Yes, I can see that happening.

Everybody is fast in the first tiers starting in U12 and most club train defensive positioning here in the DMV.
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Funny that people on here are griping over someone saying juggling 50x is hard. Both my kids can juggle over 1000x and I think the guy who posted about juggling is right. If you aren’t going to put the time in at something as basic as juggling, then scram.
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Anonymous wrote:So tired of people always crying politics or favoritism when their kids dont get chosen. It bleeds down to the players and creates a culture of excuses as opposed to working harder to be better.


so tired of people who complain that all it takes is to "work harder" when there is clear favoritism at play. It wouldn't be such a trope if it wasn't at least a "bit" true. It sucks, but sometimes a decision is made early on and there is nothing the player can do to overcome it.


That is a poor attitude. There are plenty of ways to overcome it.


Explain. Do you mean by working hard to become so good it's undeniable? Or do you mean by deciding to play the political game too? Often the latter is far easier, imo.


How many times can your kid juggle in a row? Can they keep up the ball 50x in a row with laces, inside foot, outside foot, thighs, chest and head?

Are their 5-10-5 shuttle, 400m, 800m and 1,600m times in the top 10% percentile of your age group.

Can they win 25% of their 1v1’s?

Is your kid scanning at least every 10-15 seconds (which is a slow rate) and able to scan and turn with anticipation?

Are they proficient with shooting, passing and receiving with both their left foot and right foot?

How is their ankle flexion, hip mobility and CofD agility?

After all of that, can they play in a neutral field without their squad or support from Mommy and Daddy?

Everybody wants to talk a great game without acknowledging the work. If you don’t get picked, pick a question above and start doing the work to become undeniable.


Juggling is for clowns and if the coach thinks it's a good metric of talent then they're a clown too.


So you don’t care about first touch and ball control?


Not every kid needs juggling to develop their first touch and ball control.


Ok. I'll bite. What tools are they using for their first touch and ball control?
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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


Oh Pleeze...
No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Most of the game you do NOt have the ball. But speed and size can get you to a loose ball faster. Size can help you keep the ball. So yes. This is all true.


Watch some professional soccer on TV this weekend and tell us how many times players without the ball are engaged in full out long sprints 😂
bad analogy .. they have 18 pros on a bench. You have youth American soccer with maybe 2-3 top skill players per team. Generally kids cant connect more than 3 passes or skill player loses the ball holding it too long. Most goals come from sprints breaking lines or set pieces. Again the faster and stronger kids when those balls.
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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


Oh Pleeze...
No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Most of the game you do NOt have the ball. But speed and size can get you to a loose ball faster. Size can help you keep the ball. So yes. This is all true.


Watch some professional soccer on TV this weekend and tell us how many times players without the ball are engaged in full out long sprints 😂
bad analogy .. they have 18 pros on a bench. You have youth American soccer with maybe 2-3 top skill players per team. Generally kids cant connect more than 3 passes or skill player loses the ball holding it too long. Most goals come from sprints breaking lines or set pieces. Again the faster and stronger kids when those balls.


lol. That is certainly not soccer. But do coaches or parents know?
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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


Oh Pleeze...
No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Most of the game you do NOt have the ball. But speed and size can get you to a loose ball faster. Size can help you keep the ball. So yes. This is all true.


Watch some professional soccer on TV this weekend and tell us how many times players without the ball are engaged in full out long sprints 😂
bad analogy .. they have 18 pros on a bench. You have youth American soccer with maybe 2-3 top skill players per team. Generally kids cant connect more than 3 passes or skill player loses the ball holding it too long. Most goals come from sprints breaking lines or set pieces. Again the faster and stronger kids when those balls.


lol. That is certainly not soccer. But do coaches or parents know?


Modern professional soccer: long throws, goalkeepers kicking to the opposite touchline, set pieces, Mbappe, PSG's speed demons, whatever it takes to win.
Clueless American youth soccer know it alls: Everyone must play Tiki-TAKA!
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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


Oh Pleeze...
No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Most of the game you do NOt have the ball. But speed and size can get you to a loose ball faster. Size can help you keep the ball. So yes. This is all true.


Watch some professional soccer on TV this weekend and tell us how many times players without the ball are engaged in full out long sprints 😂
bad analogy .. they have 18 pros on a bench. You have youth American soccer with maybe 2-3 top skill players per team. Generally kids cant connect more than 3 passes or skill player loses the ball holding it too long. Most goals come from sprints breaking lines or set pieces. Again the faster and stronger kids when those balls.


lol. That is certainly not soccer. But do coaches or parents know?


Modern professional soccer: long throws, goalkeepers kicking to the opposite touchline, set pieces, Mbappe, PSG's speed demons, whatever it takes to win.
Clueless American youth soccer know it alls: Everyone must play Tiki-TAKA!


If you're calling PSG an unskilled team that only plays long ball kick and run you should probably just read but not comment
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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


Oh Pleeze...
No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Most of the game you do NOt have the ball. But speed and size can get you to a loose ball faster. Size can help you keep the ball. So yes. This is all true.


Watch some professional soccer on TV this weekend and tell us how many times players without the ball are engaged in full out long sprints 😂
bad analogy .. they have 18 pros on a bench. You have youth American soccer with maybe 2-3 top skill players per team. Generally kids cant connect more than 3 passes or skill player loses the ball holding it too long. Most goals come from sprints breaking lines or set pieces. Again the faster and stronger kids when those balls.


I'll have to see how many players are doing long sprints without the ball at soccerplex this weekend
More importantly, what they do after they get to it
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Anonymous wrote:Funny that people on here are griping over someone saying juggling 50x is hard. Both my kids can juggle over 1000x and I think the guy who posted about juggling is right. If you aren’t going to put the time in at something as basic as juggling, then scram.


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Anonymous wrote:Not getting pushed off the ball by opposing teams that push in the back. Massive acceleration, which requires muscle. If your whole team plays like Spain, great. But if not, you can’t use quick passing skills everywhere and you lose the ball. Or lose 50/50 challenges. Kids like mine look great on a team that all plays the same way, but if not, it’s a hard road.


This is a frustrating reality that many just don't seem to get. A technical player needs good teammates to shine. A freak athlete shines regardless of team quality.

And high level teams push like crazy, even in the back, even with out-stretched arms. It's only a foul when the ref decides it's excessive or reckless. Small players need to learn when to fall down to actually get the call. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W-LU9tK60yw Sounds like many people would just say this offensive player needs better skills.


How exactly does a freak athlete shine in soccer to knowledgeable coaches and scouts without high level or exceptional soccer skills?


Excessive speed and physicality will put a decent soccer on a team with great soccer players.

Just saw it at tryouts. Top team just put a player with no left foot on the squad.


Oh Pleeze...
No quality coach and organization putting a runner on a top tier soccer team


What age are you thinking about? Because before about freshman/sophomore year, the coaches are for sure putting a runner on a top team. At any point, skills with the speed will help, but early on the most skilled kids aren't *that* skilled.


So they just running 60mph without the ball?


Winningest team in my state (by far) at my kid’s age group has two skilled midfielders who are about equal to other team’s most skilled. But they have the four fastest players in state at the four corners. Those kids just run down long balls over the top all day. Maybe they’re skilled, but you’d never know because they spend so much time running without the ball. Any team in state would instantly bump their starters to get one of those four kids based on speed alone.


Age, state and level would be a nice preface.

This must be WV NCSL equivalent of U9. Yes, I can see that happening.

Everybody is fast in the first tiers starting in U12 and most club train defensive positioning here in the DMV.


Big state, well into ECNL/GA years, no need to scroll down to see it in rankings app national ranking. Unless you’re on a super great team, hope your coach taught to park the bus and play for 0-0.
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What's that saying

You don't have to juggle to be a professional soccer player, but every professional soccer player can juggle
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Anonymous wrote:Funny that people on here are griping over someone saying juggling 50x is hard. Both my kids can juggle over 1000x and I think the guy who posted about juggling is right. If you aren’t going to put the time in at something as basic as juggling, then scram.


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i love these maxims. Acting like there's only one way to develop a kid and that if your kid can't hit certain benchmarks by age 9, then they're doomed to failure at soccer. My kid can juggle.. maybe 40 times on a good day, they only practices soccer 3-4 days a week, and almost never practice on their own. Yet they have one of the best first touches on the team and they're a starter on a top team in a top league. They even have the audacity to play a second sport at a high-level and soccer is their 'for fun' sport. How is this possible if juggling is required to play high level soccer, you need to be exclusively focused on soccer by 10, and all successful kids must practice on their own 7-days a week? Just let the kids have their own journey. If they want to get 2000+ juggles on their own, great for them! If they don't, they're going to be just fine.
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Some kids just got it, sheer athleticism and good sensibilities. Some kids have to grind day in and day out to play on the top field.
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“ How is this possible if juggling is required to play high level soccer, you need to be exclusively focused on soccer by 10, and all successful kids must practice on their own 7-days a week? Just let the kids have their own journey. If they want to get 2000+ juggles on their own, great for them! If they don't, they're going to be just fine.”

It’s this guy again! Parents, juggling isn’t hard and it doesn’t take seven days of practice. Just because kid can juggle endlessly doesn’t mean they don’t play multiple sports and other things outside of soccer.
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