Ok, in FCPS one book is read by grade 4. Sounds like a great education to me! |
I wouldn’t call 2nd grade books novels. There are 2nd grade children’s chapter books that I’d assume they read. |
Still waiting for this poster to admit she did not read the book. |
Read it and already responded. Keep up. |
Then why don’t you explain the racism in the book that you read. Or why a book for 4th graders is not being taught in elementary schools? You Just claimed about how they don’t read this because of racism and nothing to back up your claim. Just one example of what you claim. |
Sorry, I just read your response about the word “tramp” and “Gypsy”. That’s not racism. This was written as if it’s post WW2 when these words were common. 4th graders can and need to understand the history of language and how and why it changes. Right now you’re supposed to say someone is “unhoused”, not “homeless” because homeless is apparently offensive. Language constantly changes. 1930s, 1940s saw a lot of homeless men who traveled from place to place looking for work. They were written about. My middle schooler just read Of Mice and Men where they were called Bindle Stiffs. Grapes of Wrath has homeless families called vagrants. We don’t ban books over words used in the era the author is writing about. |
It’s not just the terms, the book also depicts the homeless man (and others) as happily homeless by choice and not wanting to work and the “gypsies” as thieves and other negative stereotypes. It’s an ok book and would be find should my kids have been assigned it (I’ve read it aloud), but no public school teacher is using this as a class book. It’s very outdated in many ways. This is a book that you’d find being used in a homeschool co-op or maybe a Catholic school, but not a public school. I bet most public libraries don’t even carry it. Few public schools are assigning full books to elementary kids to read during the school year at all- and they certainly aren’t picking ones dating pre 1960, very few classics at all. |
Books can’t be all puppies and rainbows. The book has the man happy with living under the bridge and was irritable when the family came in. The Gypsy and the homeless man helped the family get a home and he left the bridge to move in with a family. Happy ending, you’re leaving out the compassion of the gypsy and eventually the homeless man softened helped watch the children. This was real life and still is. I got to know 2 homeless men near my daughter’s theatre school when I waited on the side street. I would buy food at 7/11. One man was homeless by choice. His wife told quit alcohol or leave. He left to live on the streets. Roll of Thunder Hear My Cry is in 5th grade. Same era, Southern Mississippi, the most racist place in America. It’s about a black family and how they dealt with the ugliness of racism, violence and segregation. It uses racial slurs like they did and still do. These are historical books and shouldn’t be banned because someone’s offended by a word or stereotype that was alive during the time period. I’d hate for kids not to know the history of their own country. What are some of your book suggestions ? |
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In FCPS regular (not honors) English, the kids read The Outsiders. On their own. |
I think they should read more, but there is one poster on DCUM that goes on and on about how much she hates Benchmark and kids don't read books anymore and blah blah blah and my kids both read the same book in 4th in two different schools. One before Benchmark and one after Benchmark. Anyway, no, my kids aren't reading nearly as many books as I would like for them to read in school, but we make up for that with a LOT of books from the library. I've started my 6th grader on books that I read in school as a child - she just finished Bridge to Terabithia and The Secret Garden. Next up is probably A Wrinkle in Time or Where the Red Fern Grows. |
| Our ES formed book clubs and kids ranked book choices and were placed in a group with a book from 3rd-6th. Then in 7th grade the class ALL read the same book. |
Same with my 7th grader. They brought the book home with them to read and then answer questions and discuss in class. No honors English until high school. |
One poster claims these books are no good. The Secret Garden has classic English feeling of superiority and claiming Indians are “not even human”. Where the Red Fern Grows also uses old term language. Should these books continue just because you read them? |
NP WE all know that life can’t be all puppies and rainbows. I believe that Pp is talking about public schools and libraries, which are pushing new, PC, “diverse voices” books. |
What books were or are on your list for each grade 2nd - 6th? Any books you had them read you would actually not recommend? |