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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Great comment. I don't fundamentally understand why someone would respond to a post for high level players and parents to state that don't have any ambitions but we're going to provide our opinion anyway.

I think most of us fundamentally understand our kids have a .001 to be a professional and probably a .0001 chance of them making life-changing money. It does not mean it is not worth a shot if the kid is geared towards it.

if you understand actual probability, you know it's not worth the shot (now if the kid is having fun - great/excellent/awesome and do it for those reasons), but if you are actually chasing those probabilities you are a bad gambler.

You have a defeatist mentality and your kid doesn't have a champion supporting them

Does every kid who wants to be a doctor make it? Should all kids just be cool with getting C's and D's because everyone can't become a surgeon?

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Great comment. I don't fundamentally understand why someone would respond to a post for high level players and parents to state that don't have any ambitions but we're going to provide our opinion anyway.

I think most of us fundamentally understand our kids have a .001 to be a professional and probably a .0001 chance of them making life-changing money. It does not mean it is not worth a shot if the kid is geared towards it.

if you understand actual probability, you know it's not worth the shot (now if the kid is having fun - great/excellent/awesome and do it for those reasons), but if you are actually chasing those probabilities you are a bad gambler.

You have a defeatist mentality and your kid doesn't have a champion supporting them

Does every kid who wants to be a doctor make it? Should all kids just be cool with getting C's and D's because everyone can't become a surgeon?

Funny you mention that - my wife is a surgeon (and how we can afford this racket :) ) - we all have different goals and that's great, but .001 and .0001 probabilities are far worse than becoming a Dr/Surgeon and worth recognizing. Chase the goals, but understand how astronomically low those chances are.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Great comment. I don't fundamentally understand why someone would respond to a post for high level players and parents to state that don't have any ambitions but we're going to provide our opinion anyway.

I think most of us fundamentally understand our kids have a .001 to be a professional and probably a .0001 chance of them making life-changing money. It does not mean it is not worth a shot if the kid is geared towards it.

if you understand actual probability, you know it's not worth the shot (now if the kid is having fun - great/excellent/awesome and do it for those reasons), but if you are actually chasing those probabilities you are a bad gambler.

You have a defeatist mentality and your kid doesn't have a champion supporting them

Does every kid who wants to be a doctor make it? Should all kids just be cool with getting C's and D's because everyone can't become a surgeon?

Funny you mention that - my wife is a surgeon (and how we can afford this racket :) ) - we all have different goals and that's great, but .001 and .0001 probabilities are far worse than becoming a Dr/Surgeon and worth recognizing. Chase the goals, but understand how astronomically low those chances are.

Yeah, we're impressed with her millions in income
We all can afford the racket or we wouldn't be here

As said earlier, your defeatist mentality and self therapy to deal with the fact your kid has no chance of being a top tier player is your burden alone to bear

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

Sometimes being more laid back helps with dealing with the pressure.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

Sometimes being more laid back helps with dealing with the pressure.

The parents should always be laid back, even if the kid has an intense mentality and wants to try to go pro. That inner drive has to come from them anyway if they are to make it. Too many parents here think they have some sort of control over whether or not their kid makes it. You have a much better chance of killing your child’s love of a sport than you do helping them to make it to the pros. Chill out, drive them to wherever they need to be and let it be their thing not yours.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Great comment. I don't fundamentally understand why someone would respond to a post for high level players and parents to state that don't have any ambitions but we're going to provide our opinion anyway.

I think most of us fundamentally understand our kids have a .001 to be a professional and probably a .0001 chance of them making life-changing money. It does not mean it is not worth a shot if the kid is geared towards it.

if you understand actual probability, you know it's not worth the shot (now if the kid is having fun - great/excellent/awesome and do it for those reasons), but if you are actually chasing those probabilities you are a bad gambler.

Mate, that is bleak.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

This is interesting. You are advocating to teach your child to not give their best after making a commitment to the team?

Actually, you're saying you're fine with your kid being mediocre and just showup?
Hopefully they learn better work ethics from others

Your kid giving 50% doesn't hurt the kid giving 100%

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Great comment. I don't fundamentally understand why someone would respond to a post for high level players and parents to state that don't have any ambitions but we're going to provide our opinion anyway.

I think most of us fundamentally understand our kids have a .001 to be a professional and probably a .0001 chance of them making life-changing money. It does not mean it is not worth a shot if the kid is geared towards it.

if you understand actual probability, you know it's not worth the shot (now if the kid is having fun - great/excellent/awesome and do it for those reasons), but if you are actually chasing those probabilities you are a bad gambler.

You have a defeatist mentality and your kid doesn't have a champion supporting them

Does every kid who wants to be a doctor make it? Should all kids just be cool with getting C's and D's because everyone can't become a surgeon?

Funny you mention that - my wife is a surgeon (and how we can afford this racket :) ) - we all have different goals and that's great, but .001 and .0001 probabilities are far worse than becoming a Dr/Surgeon and worth recognizing. Chase the goals, but understand how astronomically low those chances are.

My child’s aspirations has them accelerated academically and self-sufficient. The habits are transferable to everything in life. It is why some of the best business leaders are former high level athletes. They understand the commitment necessary and the undeniable failure and let-downs every one will experience no matter how successful you are in sport. Those are invaluable life lessons. I guess this is why the title of this post includes high-level parent because despite your wife’s professional success, there is no way you would be anywhere near my circles with your mentality.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

'Mentality means a person's particular way of thinking, their mental attitude, mindset, or outlook, often reflecting their intelligence, beliefs, or characteristic approach to things'

Clearly you don't understand the meaning of the word or you wouldn't have written such an asinine response 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

This is interesting. You are advocating to teach your child to not give their best after making a commitment to the team?

Actually, you're saying you're fine with your kid being mediocre and just showup?
Hopefully they learn better work ethics from others

Your kid giving 50% doesn't hurt the kid giving 100%

This convo has nothing to do with effort. My kid gives 100% every time they are on the field. The discussion was about the value of traveling long distances for games. My position is that we prefer longer travel because we get to spend time together and visit fun places with the team. We have no intention of playing soccer in college or pros. Someone called that soccer tourism and implied these kids aren’t giving 100% on the field. That’s not true. They enjoy the full experience 100% - traveling, competing, socializing.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

You should be on a Travel forum

Here’s some news for you. There are a lot of people like us on your kid’s high level soccer team. My kid is a good athlete and soccer is a fun activity we can afford. Development is not important to us because our kid is not going to play pro or in college.

First and foremost, there aren't a lot of casual soccer tourist people like you on my kid's team

Second, did you read the heading of the thread?

Well there are plenty of casual soccer tourist people on my kid's GA team. It's not the top team in the area but is near the top of the standings and is still considered high level except by ecnl dad. Considering more than half of players on GA teams don't play in college I'd say many are willing tourists.

Not making it and having a mentality not even trying are two different things

Mentality? We’re talking about a kids activity here. Just because you take it too seriously doesn’t mean we all do. Not everyone has the same goals. As long as my kid is good enough to play on the team they can have whatever mentality they want. I’ll bet it really burns you to know that there are players on your team who lack the “mentality” but are just as good or better and sharing the stage with your kid.

This is interesting. You are advocating to teach your child to not give their best after making a commitment to the team?

Actually, you're saying you're fine with your kid being mediocre and just showup?
Hopefully they learn better work ethics from others

Your kid giving 50% doesn't hurt the kid giving 100%

This convo has nothing to do with effort. My kid gives 100% every time they are on the field. The discussion was about the value of traveling long distances for games. My position is that we prefer longer travel because we get to spend time together and visit fun places with the team. We have no intention of playing soccer in college or pros. Someone called that soccer tourism and implied these kids aren’t giving 100% on the field. That’s not true. They enjoy the full experience 100% - traveling, competing, socializing.

Are you the guy who said they don't care about development or about what happens on the soccer field because it's all about the travel experience?

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

I enjoy every waking moment with my son. Spending 4 hours in a car with him is awesome.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

It’s absolutely better to me. We get to stay overnight and explore a new city. Spend a lot of quality time with my kid. Have fun with the other families. When we are 20 minutes away everyone just shows up for the game and goes their separate ways as soon as it’s over. When we go far away people stick around, have meals together, go shopping between games. The experience is totally different. For us the experience has little to do with what’s happening on the soccer field.

So absolutely nothing to develop as a soccer player.

The more time they spend together tightens the bond between teammates, Karen.

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Anonymous wrote:Long distance travel for non professional academies is non value-added

What part of yourh development in soccer happens in a plane or bus or hours in the car?
It's all about training and executing your training in games at game speed decision making

You can play the same 6 clubs all season in under an hour drive and develop as a player.

Long distance travel happens because in the US, soccer is a pay to play activity more like competitive dance than a tier 1 sport. Half the people don’t care much about developing their kids in soccer and are more about the experience. Long distance travel is a better experience.

Explain how driving I-95 or NJT for 4 hours and eating stale gas station food is a better experience than playing the same quality team 20 minutes from home?

I enjoy every waking moment with my son. Spending 4 hours in a car with him is awesome.

*as son stares at phone or tablet for 3hrs 54 minutes 👀