AP World History

Anonymous
Does this make you rethink APUSH for next year? We don’t want a repeat of this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


You think the teachers should spoon-feed them everything? (just like in college...)
This is a notoriously difficult class for freshmen because the whole concept of reading, note-taking taking and studying for a test is completely different.
This is how they learn to do it. Qtr1 is always filled with low grades, they will learn and improve.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


You think the teachers should spoon-feed them everything? (just like in college...)
This is a notoriously difficult class for freshmen because the whole concept of reading, note-taking taking and studying for a test is completely different.
This is how they learn to do it. Qtr1 is always filled with low grades, they will learn and improve.


College professors have much more compassion for the learning curve for an 18 year old starting a college level class than some high school teachers have for 15 year olds. Also let’s be honest, teachers ought to know their audience and build up accordingly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


You think the teachers should spoon-feed them everything? (just like in college...)
This is a notoriously difficult class for freshmen because the whole concept of reading, note-taking taking and studying for a test is completely different.
This is how they learn to do it. Qtr1 is always filled with low grades, they will learn and improve.


College professors have much more compassion for the learning curve for an 18 year old starting a college level class than some high school teachers have for 15 year olds. Also let’s be honest, teachers ought to know their audience and build up accordingly.


You have multiple people on this board telling you that that is a normal score for the first test and you still think something is wrong.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


You think the teachers should spoon-feed them everything? (just like in college...)
This is a notoriously difficult class for freshmen because the whole concept of reading, note-taking taking and studying for a test is completely different.
This is how they learn to do it. Qtr1 is always filled with low grades, they will learn and improve.


College professors have much more compassion for the learning curve for an 18 year old starting a college level class than some high school teachers have for 15 year olds. Also let’s be honest, teachers ought to know their audience and build up accordingly.


You have multiple people on this board telling you that that is a normal score for the first test and you still think something is wrong.


DP. The problem isn't the score (which my DD tells me is pretty normal, regardless of the teacher; there are other classes with much better instructors, and their grades aren't great either, but they do get massive bumps) as much as it is the lack of instruction. I have never been in any college level course where there was no instruction or discussion of the material. If that's what this is supposed to be, why even have a class? Everyone does their work at home and comes to school to take tests.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


The kids are sophomores, so 15/16 years old. It's not available to freshmen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Does this make you rethink APUSH for next year? We don’t want a repeat of this.


The instructor whose last name begins with a T is apparently very good, per DD. This instructor does not teach APUSH, as far as I know. DD will probably end up taking DE anyway.

We do have a potential problem with math, where the teacher is one of two who will be teaching the next level, and she is really awful. Apparently one of the kids finally said 'I don't understand any of what you just said, could you please explain it again?' and she just started screaming at the whole class. If DD gets her again, we'll ask for a different instructor or for her to learn it online.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


You think the teachers should spoon-feed them everything? (just like in college...)
This is a notoriously difficult class for freshmen because the whole concept of reading, note-taking taking and studying for a test is completely different.
This is how they learn to do it. Qtr1 is always filled with low grades, they will learn and improve.


There is no expectation that the kids should be spoonfed. There is some expectation that there will be a discussion of the material they're reading and taking notes on. That's what's missing in the class.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


You think the teachers should spoon-feed them everything? (just like in college...)
This is a notoriously difficult class for freshmen because the whole concept of reading, note-taking taking and studying for a test is completely different.
This is how they learn to do it. Qtr1 is always filled with low grades, they will learn and improve.


There is no expectation that the kids should be spoonfed. There is some expectation that there will be a discussion of the material they're reading and taking notes on. That's what's missing in the class.


+100
Anonymous
When do you think the kids will get back their SAQs? The retest is scheduled for next Tuesday and kids don’t even know if they need to redo the SAQ portion. Totally ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


Dumbest take I’ve ever read

All the teachers are required to take AP training every 5 years. Content wise you teach it long enough you just know it and learn new fun tidbits. Instructional AP training gives you knowledge about what might be new or have been added and allows you to meet and share strategies for instruction with other cohort teachers.

Suggesting an AP teacher is untrained just tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To make matters worse, the teacher doesn’t really teach either.


Are you in the classroom enough to make this accusation?

Honestly, the class is just hard.

A 77% on the first test sounds about right where a strong student should be at this time of year.

The AP world teachers are usually some of the strongest history teachers at the school because the class is such a challenge and dramatic jump in expectations for the kid.

With a 77, it sounds like the teacher is doing a very hood job teaching the material and holding your kid to standards.


Wrong. We actually had to buy several resources online (complete course videos and worksheets) because the teacher doesn’t do any sort of lecture or PowerPoint or go over any info. No guidance whatsoever consolidating the massive amount of info and helping break down what’s actually important. No study guide was provided in class prior to the test and the kids did no practice SAQs on any of the info leading up to the test. It’s all self study at this point. They weren’t even told what makes a good SAQ. We found videos online to help with that as well. It’s so bad I decided to learn the material alongside my child and watch all the videos as well so I can help my child study. We spent hours poring over the course videos and worksheets which I purchased online. There was nothing from the actual teacher. The only reason my child was able to get a 77 was because I worked with them at home and purchased additional materials. I asked my child how the other kids did - they said a lot of their classmates had bad scores - ranging from 50-65%. It doesn’t surprise me based on what my child tells me goes in class.

We are so disappointed because we had heard such good things about this teacher. I now think the kids liked him because they actually do nothing in class.


It's a college-level class being taken by 14 year old, what did you expect?


Perhaps fcps shouldn’t have unqualified teachers teaching college level classes.


Dumbest take I’ve ever read

All the teachers are required to take AP training every 5 years. Content wise you teach it long enough you just know it and learn new fun tidbits. Instructional AP training gives you knowledge about what might be new or have been added and allows you to meet and share strategies for instruction with other cohort teachers.

Suggesting an AP teacher is untrained just tells me you have no idea what you’re talking about


+1, OP, if you feel your post is accurate then have a decision with the department head.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When do you think the kids will get back their SAQs? The retest is scheduled for next Tuesday and kids don’t even know if they need to redo the SAQ portion. Totally ridiculous.


Hopefully, soon. Likely, the day before.
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