20 victims reported at Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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He killed himself with a self-inflicted gunshot, ONLY when the cops showed up with their guns.

If ONLY some trained person had been on site with a weapon to IMMEDIATELY shoot back at him, rather than having to wait for law enforcement.

Real life is not like a movie. Most people are going to hesitate, get nervous, or panic in these situations. That is not a reliable option.

Liar. Trained and experienced armed people are essential.

Trained and experienced armed police and military kill the wrong people for the wrong reasons on a fairly routine basis. Stop acting like 'a good guy with a gun' is the simple solution to the mass shooting epidemic in America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the police unable to identify who the shooter was?

The problem in our individualistic society is that no one is willing to say "That guy is a psycho/pervert/freak and needs to be watched like a hawk." Instead it's "you do you!" Evil walks among us and we can't deny it even if the media doesn't want us to think about it. They want us to think of this like a bad tornado, just something that happens.

Good point.

Look at all the headlines (Google them) saying “situation” or “occurrence” or “tragedy.”

Just say: murder.

Does anyone doubt this was a murder??

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Regardless of when and what details come out I’m confident gun control wouldn’t have stopped it.

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Anonymous wrote:Not that my emotions matter but I have to post this somewhere because I’m at work and don’t have a place where I can go cry. This hurts so much. Little kids at mass? Why? Why? Why? Why?

Was it less disturbing when a classroom of Sandy Hook Elementary school kindergarteners were gunned down 14 years ago? This country refuses to get its guns under control. The USA has a level of violence that far exceeds any other advanced economy.

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When is finally going to be too much for you people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regardless of when and what details come out I’m confident gun control wouldn’t have stopped it.

If he had not had a gun, he literally could not have shot all of these people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I won't "take a breath" and wait. Yes, I blame MAGA. And the NRA. And Republicans. And anyone who every voted for them. You put the gun in a psycopath's hands. If it weren't for you, he would not have had a gun.

That's not true. We've always had guns. We haven't always had so many mentally ill people. Something is terribly wrong with America. I heard someone on NPR today -- Dr. Offutt -- say we wouldn't have had the shooting at the cdc if RFK JR and Trump hadn't put out so much anti-vaccine fake data. That's absurd. The guy shot at the cdc because he was mentally ill. This is not about politics or fake news or data. We have to find out why we have so many sick alienated people in our society.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

No citizen should. Period. People are fine before they have mental breakdowns. Our mental health care sucks. All our health care sucks. Even if it didn't, why should anyone have access to automatic weapons?? It doesn't matter what a person's politics are. I am so sick of this. Those poor children.

Then we have to agree to disagree. The vast majority of people can be trusted with guns.

Who has the responsibility to determine that? What if this guy presented as completely normal and trustworthy? What if someone is as stable as can be and then has a psychotic episode? What if someone is a charming in-control sociopath who can fool anyone, including a salesman looking to earn his wages in the Walmart gun department? What do you say then? "Oooops! Sorry, kids are dead. Walmart guy's bad." You are part of the problem if you voted for this. The blood is on your hands.

They almost never present as normal. Generally you can tell at first glance by the blank expression, unkempt long hair and ghostly skin that they are a weirdo. But we're not allowed to "judge"

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Psychiatric fueled mental illness is out of control.

[Anonymous]

The “good guy with a gun” people always forget about the Vegas shooting, in particular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter if he is pro or anti-Trump. It doesn't matter what his sexual orientation or identity is. None of that matters.

If he didn't have access to guns, he couldn't have killed to innocent children. He couldn't have shot over a dozen others.

Anyone who does not see this, is complicit.

Mentality deranged people should not have access to guns. The signs were there

No citizen should. Period. People are fine before they have mental breakdowns. Our mental health care sucks. All our health care sucks. Even if it didn't, why should anyone have access to automatic weapons?? It doesn't matter what a person's politics are. I am so sick of this. Those poor children.

Then we have to agree to disagree. The vast majority of people can be trusted with guns.

Why do you need an automatic weapon?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the police unable to identify who the shooter was?

The problem in our individualistic society is that no one is willing to say "That guy is a psycho/pervert/freak and needs to be watched like a hawk." Instead it's "you do you!" Evil walks among us and we can't deny it even if the media doesn't want us to think about it. They want us to think of this like a bad tornado, just something that happens.

There isn’t enough of a mechanism to do something with these people. The people who do these crimes typically are not normal people who recently slipped into problems. Most of them have life long antisocial and troubling behaviors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are the police unable to identify who the shooter was?

The problem in our individualistic society is that no one is willing to say "That guy is a psycho/pervert/freak and needs to be watched like a hawk." Instead it's "you do you!" Evil walks among us and we can't deny it even if the media doesn't want us to think about it. They want us to think of this like a bad tornado, just something that happens.

Good point.

Look at all the headlines (Google them) saying “situation” or “occurrence” or “tragedy.”

Just say: murder.

Does anyone doubt this was a murder??

The headlines say "shooting" or "children killed" not situation or occurrence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
He killed himself with a self-inflicted gunshot, ONLY when the cops showed up with their guns.

If ONLY some trained person had been on site with a weapon to IMMEDIATELY shoot back at him, rather than having to wait for law enforcement.

Real life is not like a movie. Most people are going to hesitate, get nervous, or panic in these situations. That is not a reliable option.

I am confident if I had a gun sitting in church with my child and someone started shooting, I would f*ucking shoot back. My adrenaline is pumping just thinking about it. And I say this as a 40 some year old woman with no disposition to violence. Now ideally, neither of us would have guns, but alas, this is the type of country we choose to live in apparently.

You sound like you need meds.

Nope, just a product of being a minority woman in this country and learned early on to always look over my shoulders and look for threats. I feel consciously more relaxed when I am in East Asia.

But also there is something wrong with you if your adrenaline doesn't start pumping at the thought of someone trying to kill your kids. No mamma bear instincts for you I guess.

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Anonymous wrote:We have normalized this behavior in America. You can thank the MAGA cult. Yes, you can.

I hate MAGA with the intensity of a thousand burning suns, but this is a ridiculous assertion.

The problem of mass shootings at schools and other congregate settings and our political system's apathy in response to the problem was very well established long before Trumplethinskin descended his escalator and the first red hat was stitched in a Chinese factory.

Agree with this. It is not just MAGA, it's also non-MAGA Republicans like Mitch McConnell and anyone else who has ever aligned itself with the NRA. You are directly responsible for school shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of when and what details come out I’m confident gun control wouldn’t have stopped it.

If he had not had a gun, he literally could not have shot all of these people.

Liar. Criminals who make their way into Europe kill many innocent people with knives, explosives, and vehicles.