Where do the "B" students go?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If you’re on FB, there’s a group called something like: College Admissions for Awesomely Average Kids. The group is specifically for kids with under 3.5 weighted GPAs & 1100ish (or less) SAT scores.

Lots of good info on colleges that readily accept kids with these stats. You can search the page for your kid’s GPA to find “results” posts from previous cycles (note: for some schools, like JMU, they admit OOS kids with way lower GPAs than NoVA kids. So shoot your shot, just something to be aware of)


Any citation for this?


The FB group mentioned. Assuming people on there aren’t lying about their kid’s stats and the parents of WL/not accepted kids I know in NoVA lying about their kids stats, there’s several data points that a kid with a 3.2 weighted from Kentucky has a better shot than an identical student from FFX


Speaking of Kentucky…what a state. Uk has like a 3.5 avg gpa and 90% admissions rate, so B students regularly get in. Cool campus and town.


Absolutely! I’ve also heard great things about UNM & some other AL schools (I think it’s the one in Huntsville that has a partnership w NASA so has great engineering opportunities). There are loads of schools that offer solid education & unique opportunities, all happy to admit kids with solid B averages
Anonymous
Check out CTCL.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Jesuit colleges and universities that aren’t Georgetown or BC. Excellent and practical educations that lead to great careers after a fun four years.


Agreed…Marquette, Xavier, fordham, Gonzaga, the Loyolas, depending on what they want out of it.


Im not OP but am in a similar situation and am struggling a little. Like Marquette has an average admitted student gpa of 3.6 — that’s more as than bs so not really a B average student. (And that 3.6 includes the hooked students, athletes etc.). I know everyone says there are lots of options but …. It’s not quite that easy.


I have a DC that was a B student in HS.
Attended Loyola Maryland.

The original poster advocating Jesuit schools perspective closely mirrors my DC experience.

Graduated Magna cum laude. Found their footing. Enjoyed watching their confidence grow.

To the PP if you are open to school in the DMV/Baltimore I would recommend you take a look at Loyola Maryland.

Good luck to you and your child.

Anonymous
There are lots of different types of B students. Some define a B student has having a 3.0 and others call a 3.5 student a B student. Having high SAT score further complicates things.

A lot of regional publics are perfect for a B student.

My B student is looking at regional colleges (in a neighboring state) plus less competitive flagships, like Kentucky, WVU and Iowa State.

Also, liberal arts colleges that are outside of the top 40 are great options.
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Anonymous wrote:An unweighted "B" from where?

Very different to get B's from large, average HS school (private or public) where more than have the class has a 4.0 avg. And B's really mean C's.

But if your student is getting B's from Philips Andover and taking very rigorous courses and doesn't weight GPA or give out As easily despite only admitting top students.


Um, what? Bs mean Bs.


oh you sweet, naive, summer child ...

I was totally expecting that when my kid went to public high school but that wasn’t her experience in honor classes in 9th grade. The writing assignments and exams were actually challenging. And most teachers will not allow retakes (which is why I think people assume public school grades are BS) unless a kid got a bad grade.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:An unweighted "B" from where?

Very different to get B's from large, average HS school (private or public) where more than have the class has a 4.0 avg. And B's really mean C's.

But if your student is getting B's from Philips Andover and taking very rigorous courses and doesn't weight GPA or give out As easily despite only admitting top students.


Um, what? Bs mean Bs.


oh you sweet, naive, summer child ...

I was totally expecting that when my kid went to public high school but that wasn’t her experience in honor classes in 9th grade. The writing assignments and exams were actually challenging. And most teachers will not allow retakes (which is why I think people assume public school grades are BS) unless a kid got a bad grade.


I am often surprised about how much parents with kids in private school know about grading in public ones.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know everyone here has kids with unweighted 4.0s but where do the smart but non-4.0 kids go? The ones with ECs that are good but not great (rec sports their whole life but no travel), good ECs but not great (volunteer at org their whole life but ever started one), etc? Kid is a rising soph so we're not fully in this world yet.


Outside of T20, your child has good admission chances to nearly any college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I know everyone here has kids with unweighted 4.0s but where do the smart but non-4.0 kids go? The ones with ECs that are good but not great (rec sports their whole life but no travel), good ECs but not great (volunteer at org their whole life but ever started one), etc? Kid is a rising soph so we're not fully in this world yet.


Outside of T20, your child has good admission chances to nearly any college.


No this is not correct at all. You have to go much lower around 100-200.
Anonymous
Is this a B student taking the most rigorous classes or a B student in non-AP classes? I have questions about the former.
Anonymous
I think with admissions being what it is now, it’s better to be a B student. B students seem
Freer, seem to have a wider range of good choices and seem more focused on fit, whereas some (not all) A students feel like they have to attend a T-50 and ultimately end up settling for a place that was not a top choice or a good fit for the wrong reasons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:An unweighted "B" from where?

Very different to get B's from large, average HS school (private or public) where more than have the class has a 4.0 avg. And B's really mean C's.

But if your student is getting B's from Philips Andover and taking very rigorous courses and doesn't weight GPA or give out As easily despite only admitting top students.


Um, what? Bs mean Bs.


oh you sweet, naive, summer child ...

I was totally expecting that when my kid went to public high school but that wasn’t her experience in honor classes in 9th grade. The writing assignments and exams were actually challenging. And most teachers will not allow retakes (which is why I think people assume public school grades are BS) unless a kid got a bad grade.


I think PP's original comment was that in some average public and private schools, Bs are like Cs. not a private vs. public thing. just an above average or competitive vs. average school thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:An unweighted "B" from where?

Very different to get B's from large, average HS school (private or public) where more than have the class has a 4.0 avg. And B's really mean C's.

But if your student is getting B's from Philips Andover and taking very rigorous courses and doesn't weight GPA or give out As easily despite only admitting top students.


Um, what? Bs mean Bs.


oh you sweet, naive, summer child ...

I was totally expecting that when my kid went to public high school but that wasn’t her experience in honor classes in 9th grade. The writing assignments and exams were actually challenging. And most teachers will not allow retakes (which is why I think people assume public school grades are BS) unless a kid got a bad grade.


I am often surprised about how much parents with kids in private school know about grading in public ones.


+1
It's interesting, isn't it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:An unweighted "B" from where?

Very different to get B's from large, average HS school (private or public) where more than have the class has a 4.0 avg. And B's really mean C's.

But if your student is getting B's from Philips Andover and taking very rigorous courses and doesn't weight GPA or give out As easily despite only admitting top students.


Um, what? Bs mean Bs.


oh you sweet, naive, summer child ...


Having had three kids who were A/B students at public schools (and who all got into great colleges), I'm quite sure I know more about the situation than you do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is this a B student taking the most rigorous classes or a B student in non-AP classes? I have questions about the former.

You have questions about someone getting B’s is the most rigorous classes, but not about someone getting B’s in easier classes? What exactly is your question - why they decided to challenge themself instead of get the easy A?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:An unweighted "B" from where?

Very different to get B's from large, average HS school (private or public) where more than have the class has a 4.0 avg. And B's really mean C's.

But if your student is getting B's from Philips Andover and taking very rigorous courses and doesn't weight GPA or give out As easily despite only admitting top students.


Um, what? Bs mean Bs.


oh you sweet, naive, summer child ...

I was totally expecting that when my kid went to public high school but that wasn’t her experience in honor classes in 9th grade. The writing assignments and exams were actually challenging. And most teachers will not allow retakes (which is why I think people assume public school grades are BS) unless a kid got a bad grade.

Lol exactly - in private schools, there are no retakes at all. If you get a bad grade, too bad so sad, you should have studied more.
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