STA vs TJHSST

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is majority Asian. So, if you're Asian, go there. If not, stick with STA.

Where should OP’s kid go if he wants to avoid racist jerks like yourself?

It isn't "racist" to state a fact. Look at the numbers for TJ.

It is racist to say that only Asians can go to a majority Asian school. I assume you also believe that Asians and Blacks should avoid majority white schools.

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Anonymous wrote:We made this choice and chose STA for our son. We have found that the depth of math & science in the US is far greater than that at public schools, even magnet schools. More importantly, the language arts - history, English, foreign languages - are a gazillion times stronger. Most folks we know who actually pursued math and science as a career stressed to us the importance of the ability to communicate, a skill that they viewed as important as the math/science. Professionals also stressed that going to a great math and science HS would do nothing for your long term career - if you truly love those things, go to a great undergrad in math or science and most importantly, grad school. Putting our son in a math science box right now seemed silly to us. STAs got some brilliant kids — and you just need a handful on the math/science side to give your kid a cohort. STA has that in spades. Plus, class size, communication of teachers/admin, supporting all other aspects of your son lose at TJ. The culture of TJ is vastly different than STA; at STA the boys compete with other in the US but nothing at all like what happens to our friends with kids at TJ. Most smart kids at STA have a lot of different interest and opportunities and options. TJ is test factory driven and many students are there to get the very best scores possible. We were accepted at TJ and it was not a hard decision to turn down for STA. Do your homework, have your kid apply, but at the end of the day, talk to US math/science parents who can tell you about their sons experience. US is really different than lower school fwiw.

Yeah, that's why STA dominate the science and math competitions ...NOT.
STA doesn't even register on the radar.
The delusion of STA boosters.
LOL

I've never met a single STA boy who entered a science or math competition. If that's the high school culture you want then it's not going to be a good fit. There is zero focus on this at the school.

However, each year there are STA boys who are admitted to the Ivies, Stanford, MIT etc to study science and math.

You clearly don't understand what science competitions are about, if you are dismissing their worth, and characterizing TJ as being overly test based. If you're submitting a project to Regeneron or one of the elite science competitions where there have been winners from TJ, you're engaging in original research--not just regurgitating what you've been taught. I've never seen StA's mentioned among the finalists or semifinalists for those truly high caliber competitions, but perhaps there have been.

And you are all acting as if the humanities education at TJ is poor, and as if the students, who are admitted on merit-based criteria, are not capable of excelling in those areas. If you're a National Merit Scholar (which TJ has several every year, not just finalists, which is what STAs has), if you're winning national writing competitions (which TJ kids have done), you have strong students . Let's not devolve into unhelpful stereotypes of TJ students being nothing but human calculators.

Compared to STA, yes the humanities at TJ are weaker.

It’s the TJ parents who are defensive and inferring all kinds of things that no one said.

What about STA kids don’t do competitions do you not understand? It’s just not part of the culture. The kids and their parents don’t care at all about the National Merit Scholarships. I cannot recall as single kid who entered the Intel Regeneron competition in the past 10 years.

What’s comical about this thread is all the TJ parents saying our kids excel at national competitions so TJ must be a better school when STA kids don’t enter any of these competitions because it’s just not something they’re interested in.

It’s like that Potomac parent claiming that their school is better because they win national debate competitions when STA doesn’t have a competitive debate team.

Sure, Sally, if it makes you feel better.

They are not good enough.

+1 Maybe they would be interested if they had those scientific research skillsets. And yes, if Potomac wins national debate competitions, and STAs doesn't even have a debate team, yes, Potomac is better at debate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is majority Asian. So, if you're Asian, go there. If not, stick with STA.

Where should OP’s kid go if he wants to avoid racist jerks like yourself?

It isn't "racist" to state a fact. Look at the numbers for TJ.

It is racist to say that only Asians can go to a majority Asian school. I assume you also believe that Asians and Blacks should avoid majority white schools.

Actually, pp said as much - “if you’re Asian go [to TJ].” Apparently Asians shouldn’t go to STA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We made this choice and chose STA for our son. We have found that the depth of math & science in the US is far greater than that at public schools, even magnet schools. More importantly, the language arts - history, English, foreign languages - are a gazillion times stronger. Most folks we know who actually pursued math and science as a career stressed to us the importance of the ability to communicate, a skill that they viewed as important as the math/science. Professionals also stressed that going to a great math and science HS would do nothing for your long term career - if you truly love those things, go to a great undergrad in math or science and most importantly, grad school. Putting our son in a math science box right now seemed silly to us. STAs got some brilliant kids — and you just need a handful on the math/science side to give your kid a cohort. STA has that in spades. Plus, class size, communication of teachers/admin, supporting all other aspects of your son lose at TJ. The culture of TJ is vastly different than STA; at STA the boys compete with other in the US but nothing at all like what happens to our friends with kids at TJ. Most smart kids at STA have a lot of different interest and opportunities and options. TJ is test factory driven and many students are there to get the very best scores possible. We were accepted at TJ and it was not a hard decision to turn down for STA. Do your homework, have your kid apply, but at the end of the day, talk to US math/science parents who can tell you about their sons experience. US is really different than lower school fwiw.

Yeah, that's why STA dominate the science and math competitions ...NOT.
STA doesn't even register on the radar.
The delusion of STA boosters.
LOL

I've never met a single STA boy who entered a science or math competition. If that's the high school culture you want then it's not going to be a good fit. There is zero focus on this at the school.

However, each year there are STA boys who are admitted to the Ivies, Stanford, MIT etc to study science and math.

You clearly don't understand what science competitions are about, if you are dismissing their worth, and characterizing TJ as being overly test based. If you're submitting a project to Regeneron or one of the elite science competitions where there have been winners from TJ, you're engaging in original research--not just regurgitating what you've been taught. I've never seen StA's mentioned among the finalists or semifinalists for those truly high caliber competitions, but perhaps there have been.

And you are all acting as if the humanities education at TJ is poor, and as if the students, who are admitted on merit-based criteria, are not capable of excelling in those areas. If you're a National Merit Scholar (which TJ has several every year, not just finalists, which is what STAs has), if you're winning national writing competitions (which TJ kids have done), you have strong students . Let's not devolve into unhelpful stereotypes of TJ students being nothing but human calculators.

Compared to STA, yes the humanities at TJ are weaker.

It’s the TJ parents who are defensive and inferring all kinds of things that no one said.

What about STA kids don’t do competitions do you not understand? It’s just not part of the culture. The kids and their parents don’t care at all about the National Merit Scholarships. I cannot recall as single kid who entered the Intel Regeneron competition in the past 10 years.

What’s comical about this thread is all the TJ parents saying our kids excel at national competitions so TJ must be a better school when STA kids don’t enter any of these competitions because it’s just not something they’re interested in.

It’s like that Potomac parent claiming that their school is better because they win national debate competitions when STA doesn’t have a competitive debate team.

Sure, Sally, if it makes you feel better.

They are not good enough.

+1 Maybe they would be interested if they had those scientific research skillsets. And yes, if Potomac wins national debate competitions, and STAs doesn't even have a debate team, yes, Potomac is better at debate.

STA kids don’t have those scientific research skills because the majority are not science-focused. There are some kids who are who attend Stanford, MIT, and CalTech. They make up maybe 3-5% of the STA student population.

Yes, Potomac is better at debate. Doesn’t make them a better school.

STA gets more kids into Ivies and SLACs. TJ into the tech schools and Stanford. You’re comparing apples and oranges and lambasting the apple for not having a peel. They’re both good schools specializing in different things.

It’s like saying CalTech is a much better school because they do jet propulsion so much better than MIT.

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*orange* peel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ is majority Asian. So, if you're Asian, go there. If not, stick with STA.

Where should OP’s kid go if he wants to avoid racist jerks like yourself?

It isn't "racist" to state a fact. Look at the numbers for TJ.

It is racist to say that only Asians can go to a majority Asian school. I assume you also believe that Asians and Blacks should avoid majority white schools.

Why the need to bring Blacks into it? Because a member of some other group is claiming racism, you wanna try to crowbar Blacks into your argument?
Anyway, the poster was only giving an opinion about what they thought would be a better fit. Wasn’t even being racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ is majority Asian. So, if you're Asian, go there. If not, stick with STA.

Where should OP’s kid go if he wants to avoid racist jerks like yourself?

It isn't "racist" to state a fact. Look at the numbers for TJ.

It is racist to say that only Asians can go to a majority Asian school. I assume you also believe that Asians and Blacks should avoid majority white schools.

Actually, pp said as much - “if you’re Asian go [to TJ].” Apparently Asians shouldn’t go to STA.

Also STA does have a reputation for being racist to kids from certain cultures