Barnard Attacks

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Anonymous wrote:The school is finally starting to enforce its policies to ensure that all tuition-paying students can learn and study and feel safe on campus. But it's hard to reassert leadership after months of appeasement.The protestors have no interest in education or dialogue. They harass, intimidate, spew hate, and then hide like kkk clansmen behind their culturally appropriated kaffias. Quite lacking in self awareness when they chant kkk when the nypd shows up. Their talking points are taken from propoganda materials without fact checking the material, it's source, etc. It's a performative cult. They chant without even inderstanding the words. They are not interested in scholarship and dont belong at a top educational institution. The pandering to the faux protestors gives the school a bad image, and as a Columbia alum, none of my peers are interested in hiring ignorant thugs.

Current Columbia parent here. I agree in all fronts…….except, the protestors are an extremely small part of the Columbia student body. Students who are not participating are not going to be affected in hiring decisions. It would take more than this for Columbia to no longer be Columbia. A lot more.

That said…they do need to get it under control. It’s getting really annoying. My DC is not scared or threatened, just annoyed at this point. But I’d hate to be one of those administrators. It is a free country, no? From what I understand the protests this week a very calm. So what can the school do about it really?

Blocking Jewish students from attending class and entering buildings is okay as long as it’s done “calmly”?

I haven’t heard of this happening. Of course that’s intolerable. How would protestors know which students are Jewish? My DC’s roommate is Jewish and I haven’t heard any mention of this from them.

I want an end to this. How does the school stop students from entering buildings? I mean I’m really asking - not provoking. I want it to end. But I just don’t see what more the school can do than what they’re doing (I.e. the arrests made yesterday).

The Jewish kids on that campus are being told to hide anything that identifies them as being jewish.

In America.

It is completely unacceptable that the school allowed the civil rights of Jewish students to be violated this way. It brings to mind images of the klan during the civil rights era. The schools are complicit. No student in the US should be treared in the way that school has allowed Jewish students to be treated.

No. This is a total lie. This is all about radical extremists attacking peaceful protesters on campus in the US. The only students attacked and living in fear are non Jew and Jews who have questioned Israel. This is not Israel. If you want apartheid and oppression move to Israel.

They are screaming and yelling with megaphones during midterms. Literally nothing abt them is peaceful. More like barbaric.

yeesh, we used to have real issues. Are people really this pressed about individuals yelling on a megaphone? You'd think they set the campus on fire with how dramatic everyone is acting. And, oh no, the poor kids midterms, just terrible! (the kids are perfectly fine).

This. So what if a handful of people have gathered and are yelling in a microphone. Everyone else can go about their business. Stop with the exaggerations and hyperbole

Handful of people? You exaggerate in the wrong way, called minimization.

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Anonymous wrote:The school is finally starting to enforce its policies to ensure that all tuition-paying students can learn and study and feel safe on campus. But it's hard to reassert leadership after months of appeasement.The protestors have no interest in education or dialogue. They harass, intimidate, spew hate, and then hide like kkk clansmen behind their culturally appropriated kaffias. Quite lacking in self awareness when they chant kkk when the nypd shows up. Their talking points are taken from propoganda materials without fact checking the material, it's source, etc. It's a performative cult. They chant without even inderstanding the words. They are not interested in scholarship and dont belong at a top educational institution. The pandering to the faux protestors gives the school a bad image, and as a Columbia alum, none of my peers are interested in hiring ignorant thugs.

Current Columbia parent here. I agree in all fronts…….except, the protestors are an extremely small part of the Columbia student body. Students who are not participating are not going to be affected in hiring decisions. It would take more than this for Columbia to no longer be Columbia. A lot more.

That said…they do need to get it under control. It’s getting really annoying. My DC is not scared or threatened, just annoyed at this point. But I’d hate to be one of those administrators. It is a free country, no? From what I understand the protests this week a very calm. So what can the school do about it really?

Blocking Jewish students from attending class and entering buildings is okay as long as it’s done “calmly”?

I haven’t heard of this happening. Of course that’s intolerable. How would protestors know which students are Jewish? My DC’s roommate is Jewish and I haven’t heard any mention of this from them.

I want an end to this. How does the school stop students from entering buildings? I mean I’m really asking - not provoking. I want it to end. But I just don’t see what more the school can do than what they’re doing (I.e. the arrests made yesterday).

The Jewish kids on that campus are being told to hide anything that identifies them as being jewish.

In America.

It is completely unacceptable that the school allowed the civil rights of Jewish students to be violated this way. It brings to mind images of the klan during the civil rights era. The schools are complicit. No student in the US should be treared in the way that school has allowed Jewish students to be treated.

No. This is a total lie. This is all about radical extremists attacking peaceful protesters on campus in the US. The only students attacked and living in fear are non Jew and Jews who have questioned Israel. This is not Israel. If you want apartheid and oppression move to Israel.

They are screaming and yelling with megaphones during midterms. Literally nothing abt them is peaceful. More like barbaric.

yeesh, we used to have real issues. Are people really this pressed about individuals yelling on a megaphone? You'd think they set the campus on fire with how dramatic everyone is acting. And, oh no, the poor kids midterms, just terrible! (the kids are perfectly fine).

This. So what if a handful of people have gathered and are yelling in a microphone. Everyone else can go about their business. Stop with the exaggerations and hyperbole

Handful of people? You exaggerate in the wrong way, called minimization.

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And gaslighting. Those people yelling are also preventing others from accessing the library, classrooms, and other campus buildings. In short, they are infringing on the rights of all the other students to get the education they paid for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No, not really. There was a genocide in Palestine. The whole world knows it. Stop lying.

Barnard alumna who is glad to see that the students are speaking up

Then these thugs can go protest by blocking a highway or marching somewhere. But they aren't entitled to disrupt a college campus. Sorry to disappoint!

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Why isn’t anyone brave enough to take the signs and replace “Jew” or “Israel” with “black” or “africa” and see how people react? Would be a great social experiment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

These aren't fair comparisons. In the case of Sudan, for example, the U.S. has been its people's primary source of humanitarian aid. This contrasts to U.S. support for Israel, which has enabled, excepting periods of ceasefire, a 10/7 level of killing every two days in Gaza in relation to its population, along with the virtual destruction of the enclave itself.

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

These aren't fair comparisons. In the case of Sudan, for example, the U.S. has been its people's primary source of humanitarian aid. This contrasts to U.S. support for Israel, which has enabled, excepting periods of ceasefire, a 10/7 level of killing every two days in Gaza in relation to its population, along with the virtual destruction of the enclave itself.

You forgot the original enablement of killing and destruction of Gaza - Hamas actions. That is the main enablement of the killings in Gaza.

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

These aren't fair comparisons. In the case of Sudan, for example, the U.S. has been its people's primary source of humanitarian aid. This contrasts to U.S. support for Israel, which has enabled, excepting periods of ceasefire, a 10/7 level of killing every two days in Gaza in relation to its population, along with the virtual destruction of the enclave itself.

You forgot the original enablement of killing and destruction of Gaza - Hamas actions. That is the main enablement of the killings in Gaza.

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for both Israeli and Hamas officials. However, it is Israel that has been credibly accused of genocide or genocidal acts — of which neither can be excused by precipitating events — by legal scholars and scholars of genocide, and by organizations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

These aren't fair comparisons. In the case of Sudan, for example, the U.S. has been its people's primary source of humanitarian aid. This contrasts to U.S. support for Israel, which has enabled, excepting periods of ceasefire, a 10/7 level of killing every two days in Gaza in relation to its population, along with the virtual destruction of the enclave itself.

You forgot the original enablement of killing and destruction of Gaza - Hamas actions. That is the main enablement of the killings in Gaza.

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for both Israeli and Hamas officials. However, it is Israel that has been credibly accused of genocide or genocidal acts — of which neither can be excused by precipitating events — by legal scholars and scholars of genocide, and by organizations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

What BS, and totally off-topic. Go back to creating endless antisemitic threads in the politics section.

[Anonymous]

New poster here: it's not BS and it's directly on-topic to remind everyone of the ICC, Amnesty, & Human Rights Watch. Many of us are *both* horrified by the events of 10/7 *and* think Israel's post-10/7 actions have been overreach. Go read Haaretz if you want to see the same kinds of criticism of the Israeli government. Not anti-Semitic to criticize Israeli government actions. And, free speech in the US has been used to protect all kinds of viewpoints. Saying a protestor has views that are morally repugnant to you does not mean that that protestor has no right to protest.

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This note from the administration is a lie. 4 of the students are enrolled at Columbia. They’ve been suspended, not kicked out at this point.

To the poster who is using the ICC and Amnesty International as their basis for “genocide”, I suggest you read the book “People Love Dead Jews”. And, I’ll remind you that the Red Cross visited Auschwitz mid war and proudly announced “all’s well… a happy little work camp here.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This note from the administration is a lie. 4 of the students are enrolled at Columbia.

It seems that the purview of the president of Barnard College would be Barnard College. She correctly stated that none of those arrested are Barnard students.

[Anonymous]

Why is it okay for white people to wear keffiyeh? I keep seeing the protestors wearing them and it seems innately wrong. Isn’t this the worst form of cultural appropriation that these protestors would normally be offended by?

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

People who choose a cause to support do not typically support every other worthy cause. It doesn’t mean that other causes are not worthy.

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

These aren't fair comparisons. In the case of Sudan, for example, the U.S. has been its people's primary source of humanitarian aid. This contrasts to U.S. support for Israel, which has enabled, excepting periods of ceasefire, a 10/7 level of killing every two days in Gaza in relation to its population, along with the virtual destruction of the enclave itself.

You forgot the original enablement of killing and destruction of Gaza - Hamas actions. That is the main enablement of the killings in Gaza.

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for both Israeli and Hamas officials. However, it is Israel that has been credibly accused of genocide or genocidal acts — of which neither can be excused by precipitating events — by legal scholars and scholars of genocide, and by organizations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

This is very true

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are young college kids speaking out for justice and humanity. Shameful behavior from Barnard and Columbia.

Totally untrue. They are not speaking out for justice and humanity. If they were, they would be for all human rights, not just hamas-Palestinian human rights. They are not out protesting for the starving Yemeni babies, or the Sudanese children being killed by starvation and violence on a great scale. Or the Syrians being butchered. This is pure and simple anti-Jewish rhetoric, performative human rights support (not real, performative.)

These aren't fair comparisons. In the case of Sudan, for example, the U.S. has been its people's primary source of humanitarian aid. This contrasts to U.S. support for Israel, which has enabled, excepting periods of ceasefire, a 10/7 level of killing every two days in Gaza in relation to its population, along with the virtual destruction of the enclave itself.

You forgot the original enablement of killing and destruction of Gaza - Hamas actions. That is the main enablement of the killings in Gaza.

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for both Israeli and Hamas officials. However, it is Israel that has been credibly accused of genocide or genocidal acts — of which neither can be excused by precipitating events — by legal scholars and scholars of genocide, and by organizations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

What BS, and totally off-topic. Go back to creating endless antisemitic threads in the politics section.

This is not BS at all but all factually true. If you only want to believe a 100% pro-Israel point of view, that is your right but most of the world does not agree with you.