National reading scores are at all time lows

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Anonymous wrote:I blame parents giving their children devices before they learn to read

I would love to remove all devices but the teachers keep assigning homework in apps. Get rid of the garbage apps.

I agree there is a little too much dependence on apps (thanks to underfunded & overcrowded schools), but Lexia is a great app.

Lexia is awful. My 6th grader has her 2nd grade sister do her assignments because it's so easy. It goes so so slowly.

At they beginning when they first introduced Lexia they let kids move ahead if they passed a placement test, but now they require kids to do Lexia for their grade level. It's so remedial. A total waste of time.

Lexia is not awful.

It’s a tool that can either be used effectively or not.

Yes it is. It moves incredibly slowly. It also has set levels so if a kid needs to work on one skill, but excels at others, they still have to wade through hours and hours of content that is far too easy. And if you click the wrong thing (usually trying to rush and move faster) then you have to sit through asinine recordings to "teach" the missed content. My kids equate Lexia to torture and I agree with them.

Talk to your kids’ teachers. They can adjust the levels.

They won't. Levels correspond to grade levels and they no longer allow kids to work above their grade level because then they run out of levels in upper grades.

No - wrong reason.

The school administrators and school boards are refusing to allow kids to work above grade level, citing “equity” - which is part of DEI.

I will post a few examples from national news sources:

JFC you are full of so much horse crap. No one is stopping kids from working above grade level because of equity. You are insane. The sh*t you idiots make up...

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Anonymous wrote:I blame parents giving their children devices before they learn to read

I would love to remove all devices but the teachers keep assigning homework in apps. Get rid of the garbage apps.

I agree there is a little too much dependence on apps (thanks to underfunded & overcrowded schools), but Lexia is a great app.

Lexia is awful. My 6th grader has her 2nd grade sister do her assignments because it's so easy. It goes so so slowly.

At they beginning when they first introduced Lexia they let kids move ahead if they passed a placement test, but now they require kids to do Lexia for their grade level. It's so remedial. A total waste of time.

Lexia is not awful.

It’s a tool that can either be used effectively or not.

Yes it is. It moves incredibly slowly. It also has set levels so if a kid needs to work on one skill, but excels at others, they still have to wade through hours and hours of content that is far too easy. And if you click the wrong thing (usually trying to rush and move faster) then you have to sit through asinine recordings to "teach" the missed content. My kids equate Lexia to torture and I agree with them.

Talk to your kids’ teachers. They can adjust the levels.

They won't. Levels correspond to grade levels and they no longer allow kids to work above their grade level because then they run out of levels in upper grades.

No - wrong reason.

The school administrators and school boards are refusing to allow kids to work above grade level, citing “equity” - which is part of DEI.

I will post a few examples from national news sources:

JFC you are full of so much horse crap. No one is stopping kids from working above grade level because of equity. You are insane. The sh*t you idiots make up...

There’s more than one idiot claiming ridiculous things someone wrote that in first grade they’d be a couple of kids holding everyone back. That doesn’t happen. Students have always been reading at their specific level. Many have reading groups and students who read at a 3rd grade level continue to read at a third grade. Kids who are delayed are in a group with a reading specialist getting help to catch up. Neither group is affecting the other group.

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NP. School buildings may not have been closed for two full years, but if you don't think that the lack of in-person learning for more than a year played a role in declines, you aren't being honest.
The 4th graders being tested had virtual kindergarten. It's crazy to think that didn't have an effect on learning.

I didn't go to k back in the 60s. None of the neighbor kids did either. A lot of our schools didn't offer it.

Now we do and there are kinder standards that were taught virtually. Poorly taught virtually actual. Keep up with line of logic, please.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. School buildings may not have been closed for two full years, but if you don't think that the lack of in-person learning for more than a year played a role in declines, you aren't being honest.

The 4th graders being tested had virtual kindergarten. It's crazy to think that didn't have an effect on learning.

I didn't go to k back in the 60s. None of the neighbor kids did either. A lot of our schools didn't offer it.

Now we do and there are kinder standards that were taught virtually. Poorly taught virtually actual. Keep up with line of logic, please.

Kindergartners were the least affected out of all the grades. I’m sure it had an effect on some kindergartners but the majority were able to do just fine. There’s nothing done in kindergarten that parents can’t handle. Read books, do art, colors, shapes, letters, simple words, workbooks for writing numbers and letters. All set for first grade. M

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Anonymous wrote:NP. School buildings may not have been closed for two full years, but if you don't think that the lack of in-person learning for more than a year played a role in declines, you aren't being honest.

The 4th graders being tested had virtual kindergarten. It's crazy to think that didn't have an effect on learning.

I didn't go to k back in the 60s. None of the neighbor kids did either. A lot of our schools didn't offer it.

Now we do and there are kinder standards that were taught virtually. Poorly taught virtually actual. Keep up with line of logic, please.

Kindergartners were the least affected out of all the grades. I’m sure it had an effect on some kindergartners but the majority were able to do just fine. There’s nothing done in kindergarten that parents can’t handle. Read books, do art, colors, shapes, letters, simple words, workbooks for writing numbers and letters. All set for first grade. M


Uh, no, kids learn to read in kindergarten now. Most K kids can write several sentences on a topic. And being virtual did absolutely hurt them. I'm a K teacher and did my best to really teach during covid but it wasn't good for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. School buildings may not have been closed for two full years, but if you don't think that the lack of in-person learning for more than a year played a role in declines, you aren't being honest.

The 4th graders being tested had virtual kindergarten. It's crazy to think that didn't have an effect on learning.

I didn't go to k back in the 60s. None of the neighbor kids did either. A lot of our schools didn't offer it.

Now we do and there are kinder standards that were taught virtually. Poorly taught virtually actual. Keep up with line of logic, please.

Kindergartners were the least affected out of all the grades. I’m sure it had an effect on some kindergartners but the majority were able to do just fine. There’s nothing done in kindergarten that parents can’t handle. Read books, do art, colors, shapes, letters, simple words, workbooks for writing numbers and letters. All set for first grade. M


Uh, no, kids learn to read in kindergarten now. Most K kids can write several sentences on a topic. And being virtual did absolutely hurt them. I'm a K teacher and did my best to really teach during covid but it wasn't good for anyone.

It’s easy to catch up if you don’t go to kindergarten. They aren’t reading chapter books. If the parents didn’t do this simple work with them there is probably an aid in the class to help them catch up

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Anonymous wrote:NP. School buildings may not have been closed for two full years, but if you don't think that the lack of in-person learning for more than a year played a role in declines, you aren't being honest.

The 4th graders being tested had virtual kindergarten. It's crazy to think that didn't have an effect on learning.

I didn't go to k back in the 60s. None of the neighbor kids did either. A lot of our schools didn't offer it.

Now we do and there are kinder standards that were taught virtually. Poorly taught virtually actual. Keep up with line of logic, please.

Kindergartners were the least affected out of all the grades. I’m sure it had an effect on some kindergartners but the majority were able to do just fine. There’s nothing done in kindergarten that parents can’t handle. Read books, do art, colors, shapes, letters, simple words, workbooks for writing numbers and letters. All set for first grade. M


Uh, no, kids learn to read in kindergarten now. Most K kids can write several sentences on a topic. And being virtual did absolutely hurt them. I'm a K teacher and did my best to really teach during covid but it wasn't good for anyone.

It’s easy to catch up if you don’t go to kindergarten. They aren’t reading chapter books. If the parents didn’t do this simple work with them there is probably an aid in the class to help them catch up

I'm not a teacher but have volunteered a lot in different elementary schools and also worked as an aide and sub. By all accounts at different schools, the kids who are currently in 4th grade were very much affected by the pandemic and are a cohort with significant behavioral and academic gaps. I hope it's better now, but I remember 2 years ago seeing one of the 2nd grade teachers throwing her hands up and basically admitting there's nothing she could do about her class.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. School buildings may not have been closed for two full years, but if you don't think that the lack of in-person learning for more than a year played a role in declines, you aren't being honest.

The 4th graders being tested had virtual kindergarten. It's crazy to think that didn't have an effect on learning.

I didn't go to k back in the 60s. None of the neighbor kids did either. A lot of our schools didn't offer it.

Now we do and there are kinder standards that were taught virtually. Poorly taught virtually actual. Keep up with line of logic, please.

Kindergartners were the least affected out of all the grades. I’m sure it had an effect on some kindergartners but the majority were able to do just fine. There’s nothing done in kindergarten that parents can’t handle. Read books, do art, colors, shapes, letters, simple words, workbooks for writing numbers and letters. All set for first grade. M


Uh, no, kids learn to read in kindergarten now. Most K kids can write several sentences on a topic. And being virtual did absolutely hurt them. I'm a K teacher and did my best to really teach during covid but it wasn't good for anyone.

It’s easy to catch up if you don’t go to kindergarten. They aren’t reading chapter books. If the parents didn’t do this simple work with them there is probably an aid in the class to help them catch up

I'm not a teacher but have volunteered a lot in different elementary schools and also worked as an aide and sub. By all accounts at different schools, the kids who are currently in 4th grade were very much affected by the pandemic and are a cohort with significant behavioral and academic gaps. I hope it's better now, but I remember 2 years ago seeing one of the 2nd grade teachers throwing her hands up and basically admitting there's nothing she could do about her class.

[Anonymous]

It's a combination of years of Lucy Calkins/Fountas and Pinnell, COVID, and screens that are way more entertaining than books. Mostly the latter.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a combination of years of Lucy Calkins/Fountas and Pinnell, COVID, and screens that are way more entertaining than books. Mostly the latter.

Yeah, I mean they are saying even adults can’t really read anymore. What chance do elementary and middle schoolers have, when they were taught to read using Calkins and F/P?

[Anonymous]

It’s the screens. That’s the final answer. No one reads anymore.

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Parents need to care for the education of their kids and put them first. If you are educated then you need to supplement at home. Things are not going to get better in the future so parents cannot depend on schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I blame parents giving their children devices before they learn to read

I would love to remove all devices but the teachers keep assigning homework in apps. Get rid of the garbage apps.

I agree there is a little too much dependence on apps (thanks to underfunded & overcrowded schools), but Lexia is a great app.

Lexia is awful. My 6th grader has her 2nd grade sister do her assignments because it's so easy. It goes so so slowly.

At they beginning when they first introduced Lexia they let kids move ahead if they passed a placement test, but now they require kids to do Lexia for their grade level. It's so remedial. A total waste of time.

Lexia is not awful.

It’s a tool that can either be used effectively or not.

Yes it is. It moves incredibly slowly. It also has set levels so if a kid needs to work on one skill, but excels at others, they still have to wade through hours and hours of content that is far too easy. And if you click the wrong thing (usually trying to rush and move faster) then you have to sit through asinine recordings to "teach" the missed content. My kids equate Lexia to torture and I agree with them.

Talk to your kids’ teachers. They can adjust the levels.

They won't. Levels correspond to grade levels and they no longer allow kids to work above their grade level because then they run out of levels in upper grades.

No - wrong reason.

The school administrators and school boards are refusing to allow kids to work above grade level, citing “equity” - which is part of DEI.

I will post a few examples from national news sources:

JFC you are full of so much horse crap. No one is stopping kids from working above grade level because of equity. You are insane. The sh*t you idiots make up...

There’s more than one idiot claiming ridiculous things someone wrote that in first grade they’d be a couple of kids holding everyone back. That doesn’t happen. Students have always been reading at their specific level. Many have reading groups and students who read at a 3rd grade level continue to read at a third grade. Kids who are delayed are in a group with a reading specialist getting help to catch up. Neither group is affecting the other group.

Former teacher and NP. The lowest students get MUCH more time than the highest students. The lower your lowest students perform, the more your admin looks over your shoulder. I met with three reading groups a day. My lowest group got seen every day. This was a requirement. They also saw a specialist every day. My highest group got seen once a week. That’s what people are talking about. When I was a child, the teacher had three reading groups, and each group got seen every day.

One year ( in private school), I met with each reading group for an equal amount of time. My reading teacher was not happy, until she saw the EOY scores. The lowest group made the same progress as normal, but the middle group and above did incredibly well. I think that this is why our nation’s reading scores are so low. We don’t give enough time to students with the most potential.

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Anonymous wrote:I blame parents giving their children devices before they learn to read

I would love to remove all devices but the teachers keep assigning homework in apps. Get rid of the garbage apps.

I agree there is a little too much dependence on apps (thanks to underfunded & overcrowded schools), but Lexia is a great app.

Lexia is awful. My 6th grader has her 2nd grade sister do her assignments because it's so easy. It goes so so slowly.

At they beginning when they first introduced Lexia they let kids move ahead if they passed a placement test, but now they require kids to do Lexia for their grade level. It's so remedial. A total waste of time.

Lexia is not awful.

It’s a tool that can either be used effectively or not.

Yes it is. It moves incredibly slowly. It also has set levels so if a kid needs to work on one skill, but excels at others, they still have to wade through hours and hours of content that is far too easy. And if you click the wrong thing (usually trying to rush and move faster) then you have to sit through asinine recordings to "teach" the missed content. My kids equate Lexia to torture and I agree with them.

Talk to your kids’ teachers. They can adjust the levels.

They won't. Levels correspond to grade levels and they no longer allow kids to work above their grade level because then they run out of levels in upper grades.

No - wrong reason.

The school administrators and school boards are refusing to allow kids to work above grade level, citing “equity” - which is part of DEI.

I will post a few examples from national news sources:

JFC you are full of so much horse crap. No one is stopping kids from working above grade level because of equity. You are insane. The sh*t you idiots make up...

This totally happens in progressive district like where I am in Seattle. In fact teachers are specifically prohibited from going above grade level.

Don’t call people idiots

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:also closing schools for (in some areas) over 2 years didn't do us any favors.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/students-aren-t-recovering-from-covid-test-scores-are-getting-worse/ar-AA1y32Zf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=bed906f67f484690924890be737eb4a1&ei=40

Fcking liar.

Schools were not closed for over two years.

Oh stop. Some schools were mostly closed for nearly 18 months (eg, NYC):

September 20, 2024

The Scary Truth About How Far Behind American Kids Have Fallen

Students of all ages still haven’t made up the ground they lost during the pandemic.

“Nearly all public schools in America closed by the end of March 2020, and while some reopened that fall, others did not fully resume in-person learning until fall 2021.”

Many families moved to states with more open schools because of this, but not everyone had that option.

https://cepr.harvard.edu/news/scary-truth-about-how-far-behind-american-kids-have-fallen

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Schools in New York City fully reopen after 18 months of pandemic restrictions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/13/nyregion/nyc-schools-reopening.html