Given their relative sizes, that's almost certainly true. As is the depth of really strong athletes, artists, whatever. I imagine any of that could figure into which is better for your kid--or none of it. |
Is the sexism and misogyny as "great" at SAAS as it is at STA? |
No, it's less than StA (or Prep or Landon), but it's not non-existent. |
I can't think of Abbey boys who would tolerate a friend behaving in a sexist way. There was one comment made at a dance years ago, and the boys who heard it reported the kid to a teacher, and he was kicked out of the dance (turned out to not be a current student at the school). |
| ^ lol the fact that he was not a student is why they reported it! |
Don't be ridiculous. I've had two boys at the Abbey, one still there. I love the school and its boys. But they're boys, in an all-boys environment. I can think of only one I'd characterize as misogynistic, but sexist? Yeah, most (including, sigh, both of mine). It's not a mean-spirited sexism, but kind of a casual, ignorant one. They're pretty well positioned to outgrow it (both by the school and by the parents who send them there), and most of them do, but let's not give in to magical thinking. |
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We sent our DS to SAAS in 9th grade after looking very broadly at private schools, particularly those starting in 9th grade or where the class size increases substantially in high school. Our experience has been very positive for a number of reasons, some of which surprised us:
- a really nice community of boys (and parents!) - an excellent 4-year Arabic language program - the value add of 4 years of religion classes that are mostly taught w. a philosophical approach - small classes (think 2:1 student-to-teacher ratio) - the ability to pursue Independent Study as an Upperclassman (often with a teacher who is a PhD) - great institutional commitment to the Fine Arts - ability to play on a sports team and benefit from that experience even if not a great athlete For a boy who takes advantage of what this small and personalized environment has to offer, SAAS can be an excellent experience and a rock-solid foundation for college. |
Sports are about the same level as Prep. They are also in the IAC. But they may be stronger at Gonzaga as they are WCAC. |
The Class of 2025 is particularly strong academically. But I will say that getting a 4.0 at SAAS is not at all easy. |
SAAS sports are NOT at the same level as Prep. Prep has 500 boys, athletic facilities of a well-equipped Division III college, and a tradition of athletic excellence. Prep wins the IAC Founders Cup just about every year. While the Interstate Athletic Conference (Prep, Landon, STA, Bullis, etc.) isn’t at the same level as the WCAC (Gonzaga, De Matha, etc.), li is way better than the league SAAS competes in. Each year Prep sends kids to play in college, frequently at the Division I level. |
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If you're the kind of parent who sniffs at there not being enough instagram notifications of elite college admissions at SAAS, it's definitely the wrong place for you.
Nobody goes to a bad school, everyone is extremely well prepared to succeed at college. Who cares about the particular Ivy admissions in a given year. Not everyone should go to Ivies, even if they can get in. Maybe your son should go to the Naval Academy, or Carnegie Mellon or CalPoly or RISDI. If you have 30 kids in a class and no one goes to an Ivy but you've got three who go to schools like that—and then do well while there—that's much more important. |
I strongly suspect the PP was referring to STA being on the same level as Prep: "Sports are about the same level as Prep. They are also in the IAC." STA and prep are indeed both IAC. Everyone knows SAAS is not at that level, and has no interest in being at that level. |
If they wanted them happy, they wouldn’t send them there. |
That made me laugh out loud. It’s just regurgitated from years past. |
Yes, you are right. ALthough I'm not sure "everyone knows" based on some of the wacky opinions I've seen from time to time. |