What are the most common/unremarkable ECs?

[Anonymous]

Not how it works. ECs are table stakes for showing you don't play video games exclusively.

Rare ECs are a boost for useful but rare skills like getting a bassoonist in the orchestra vs the 50th violinist that they don't need (but it's still fine as a basic EC/C for well roundedness)

Leadership activity is for showing you aren't a pure sheep, not about how huge of a leader you are in high school.

Awards are considered separately, and can be EC or C, that make the school famous.

Basket weaving is rare but not very interesting, while robotics is common but in more demand for engineering programs.

[Anonymous]

This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

That's the Crimson and IvyWise formula.....
lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

And yet, he’s had a 4.0 his Freshman yr….high A’s in everything…..kids just mature academically at their own pace. He was way too busy to focus as much on academics in HS as his sister did. He is not any less smart or capable. I’m glad these IVY’s didnt have YOU as an AO..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

And yet, he’s had a 4.0 his Freshman yr….high A’s in everything…..kids just mature academically at their own pace. He was way too busy to focus as much on academics in HS as his sister did. He is not any less smart or capable. I’m glad these IVY’s didnt have YOU as an AO..

That’s not really what it’s about though. Many people can get 4.0s at ivies, but it is obviously unfair. I think it’s gross that you’d treat your daughter as some delusional, selfish child for a very logical emotion. You’re actually really sick and abusive, but it’s mommy’s boy so I guess it doesn’t matter.

Wow….you must be a loser to attack me this way. Why in the world would you say I treat my daughter as “ some delusional, selfish child for a very logical emotion”? What is wrong with you? Clearly my son getting in with those stats while yours were denied with higher stats is bothering you a lot…..You need help.

BTW, he DID submit his test scores seven being below the 25 percentile. We asked her private college counselor, who used to be an IVY AO, her take on all of this. We did not hire a private counselor for my son after she didnt get in her top targets.
Her take was that for some of the IVYs they saw her as a Typical privileged white kid with high stats. Unfortunately they have a ton of applications from kids like her every year. While his was a little more complex. Her comment wearing an AO hat was: “She will likely end up at a great Law School and become a partner at a TOP Law Firm. He will likely become the CEO of a business he will be the founder of and possibly have a bigger impact on society”…

Do I agree? No. But it doesnt matter does it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

He is not under qualified and it is not for you to say, either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

And yet, he’s had a 4.0 his Freshman yr….high A’s in everything…..kids just mature academically at their own pace. He was way too busy to focus as much on academics in HS as his sister did. He is not any less smart or capable. I’m glad these IVY’s didnt have YOU as an AO..

yeah that is just a bitter a hole.

What he has is entrepreneurial spirit, as you will know. Gates, Bezos, Jobs etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not how it works. ECs are table stakes for showing you don't play video games exclusively.

Rare ECs are a boost for useful but rare skills like getting a bassoonist in the orchestra vs the 50th violinist that they don't need (but it's still fine as a basic EC/C for well roundedness)

Leadership activity is for showing you aren't a pure sheep, not about how huge of a leader you are in high school.

Awards are considered separately, and can be EC or C, that make the school famous.

Basket weaving is rare but not very interesting, while robotics is common but in more demand for engineering programs.

you sound like quite a sheep yourself. there are fewer bassoonists than violinists, sure, but also little need for them. bassoon repertoire is minimal and boring and they play three notes per concert.

in contrast, violin is the most important instrument in orchestra, by far. first violins carry all the tunes, CM leads the whole orchestra and has frequent solos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

And yet, he’s had a 4.0 his Freshman yr….high A’s in everything…..kids just mature academically at their own pace. He was way too busy to focus as much on academics in HS as his sister did. He is not any less smart or capable. I’m glad these IVY’s didnt have YOU as an AO..

yeah that is just a bitter a hole.

What he has is entrepreneurial spirit, as you will know. Gates, Bezos, Jobs etc.

calm down, the kids is hardly a bezos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not how it works. ECs are table stakes for showing you don't play video games exclusively.

Rare ECs are a boost for useful but rare skills like getting a bassoonist in the orchestra vs the 50th violinist that they don't need (but it's still fine as a basic EC/C for well roundedness)

Leadership activity is for showing you aren't a pure sheep, not about how huge of a leader you are in high school.

Awards are considered separately, and can be EC or C, that make the school famous.

Basket weaving is rare but not very interesting, while robotics is common but in more demand for engineering programs.

you sound like quite a sheep yourself. there are fewer bassoonists than violinists, sure, but also little need for them. bassoon repertoire is minimal and boring and they play three notes per concert.

in contrast, violin is the most important instrument in orchestra, by far. first violins carry all the tunes, CM leads the whole orchestra and has frequent solos.

Cellos are more interesting than violins and you get a chance to shine if there's only 4 of you instead of dozens. But I agree, the bassoon is basically percussion. Triangle anyone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

That's the Crimson and IvyWise formula.....
lol

step 1 "don't be a sheep"
step 2 "listen to the podcasts, read the blogs, do exactly what they say..."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our example with our 2 white privileged kids, one at IVY, the other at a t25:

2 yrs ago - T25 kid: 1520 SAT 3.9 UW GPA. Violin, volunteering at non profit, sports, denied at all IVYs applied.

Last yr - IVY Kid: 1380 SAT, 3.7 UW GPA. Started business selling his product to 10 different countries and sold it for $40k beginning of Sr year. donated it all to a charity for kids prior to application, was in the local news. Pre-College summer program in Europe before Sr yr. Sport in HS. Accepted at 3 IVYs and 2 t20.

That is impressive and you can see exactly what made the difference. It is demonstrable initiative, innovation and social consciousness. Well done your kid.

Absolutely. It has frustrated kid #1 as she has always been considered the “smart one” by everybody else outside out family. She is thriving now, but I know this has bothered her a lot. All those hours working to get a 98 on all her AP classes and Calc BC, while son slacked a little in HS since his focus was on his little business and didnt even take Calc AB…..he maxed out at Honors Pre-Calc…..

He wouldn’t have achieved it without test optional. She’s rightfully upset that he’s this under qualified but allowed into an Ivy.

And yet, he’s had a 4.0 his Freshman yr….high A’s in everything…..kids just mature academically at their own pace. He was way too busy to focus as much on academics in HS as his sister did. He is not any less smart or capable. I’m glad these IVY’s didnt have YOU as an AO..

yeah that is just a bitter a hole.

What he has is entrepreneurial spirit, as you will know. Gates, Bezos, Jobs etc.

calm down, the kids is hardly a bezos.

Those are entrepreneurs. That is the comparison. Do catch up!