If your child took Algebra 1 in 6th grade..

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Anonymous wrote:I remember a poster posting about WPES in many threads and what do you know, she is right. It is the Wealthy Potomac middle schools that are offering Algebra 2 in middle school

Walter Johnson feeders
North Bethesda:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/northbethesdams/departments/math

Tilden:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/tildenms/departments/math/

Walt Whitman feeder:
Pyle:
https://sites.google.com/mcpsmd.net/pyle-ms-math-summer-2024/recommended-support-math-resources

Wootton/Churchill feeder:
Frost::
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/robertfrostms/news-index/2024-summer-math-packets/

Why the divide in education? Either offer it everywhere or scrap that everywhere.

We did it at a low income school. It’s at other schools too.

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

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I also think it is very unfair to kids from other schools who may be smart but they cannot access that education because they are in the wrong zip code or zoned school.

The bigger problem is starting on this track and your assigned hs doesn’t have anything after calculus so your kid has no math classes for two years.

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

+1

I also think it is very unfair to kids from other schools who may be smart but they cannot access that education because they are in the wrong zip code or zoned school.

The bigger problem is starting on this track and your assigned hs doesn’t have anything after calculus so your kid has no math classes for two years.

If the assigned school doesn't have anything after calculus, the kid could take it in a school which has it or at MC or UMD.

But the question is how do you address the needs of kids who are smart, do not get into the magnet through lottery and their home schools suck. All the ES,MS and HS that don't have special programs should have the same curriculum for core courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember a poster posting about WPES in many threads and what do you know, she is right. It is the Wealthy Potomac middle schools that are offering Algebra 2 in middle school

Walter Johnson feeders
North Bethesda:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/northbethesdams/departments/math

Tilden:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/tildenms/departments/math/

Walt Whitman feeder:
Pyle:
https://sites.google.com/mcpsmd.net/pyle-ms-math-summer-2024/recommended-support-math-resources

Wootton/Churchill feeder:
Frost::
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/robertfrostms/news-index/2024-summer-math-packets/

Why the divide in education? Either offer it everywhere or scrap that everywhere.

We did it at a low income school. It’s at other schools too.

Name one low income school that has it

[Anonymous]

PP - I mean name a low income school without a magnet program or special programs that offers Algebra 1 for 6th grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP - I mean name a low income school without a magnet program or special programs that offers Algebra 1 for 6th grade

They have been named before. They are down county. Why don't you believe it happens? Its the lottery school that do it to get the kids to come to their schools to boost the test scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - I mean name a low income school without a magnet program or special programs that offers Algebra 1 for 6th grade

They have been named before. They are down county. Why don't you believe it happens? Its the lottery school that do it to get the kids to come to their schools to boost the test scores.

And, the MVA had it.

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

+1

I also think it is very unfair to kids from other schools who may be smart but they cannot access that education because they are in the wrong zip code or zoned school.

The bigger problem is starting on this track and your assigned hs doesn’t have anything after calculus so your kid has no math classes for two years.

If the assigned school doesn't have anything after calculus, the kid could take it in a school which has it or at MC or UMD.

But the question is how do you address the needs of kids who are smart, do not get into the magnet through lottery and their home schools suck. All the ES,MS and HS that don't have special programs should have the same curriculum for core courses.

How does the child get to that school? How do they get to MC or UMD? MC and UMD during the day would be impossible with a full schedule and later classes even worse if your child is in activities. MCPS should be consistent in their offerings at all schools. My junior will not be driving age, for example and we aren't near buses that could get there and the public bus would take 90 minutes each way, so what 3 hours a day?

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

+1

I also think it is very unfair to kids from other schools who may be smart but they cannot access that education because they are in the wrong zip code or zoned school.

The bigger problem is starting on this track and your assigned hs doesn’t have anything after calculus so your kid has no math classes for two years.

If the assigned school doesn't have anything after calculus, the kid could take it in a school which has it or at MC or UMD.

But the question is how do you address the needs of kids who are smart, do not get into the magnet through lottery and their home schools suck. All the ES,MS and HS that don't have special programs should have the same curriculum for core courses.

How does the child get to that school? How do they get to MC or UMD? MC and UMD during the day would be impossible with a full schedule and later classes even worse if your child is in activities. MCPS should be consistent in their offerings at all schools. My junior will not be driving age, for example and we aren't near buses that could get there and the public bus would take 90 minutes each way, so what 3 hours a day?

Totally agree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - I mean name a low income school without a magnet program or special programs that offers Algebra 1 for 6th grade

They have been named before. They are down county. Why don't you believe it happens? Its the lottery school that do it to get the kids to come to their schools to boost the test scores.

Funny how you assume the lottery schools have it. My kid is in the STEM lottery school and no, we do not have Algebra 2.

If you actually know of a school, name it.

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Anonymous wrote:PP - I mean name a low income school without a magnet program or special programs that offers Algebra 1 for 6th grade

They have been named before. They are down county. Why don't you believe it happens? Its the lottery school that do it to get the kids to come to their schools to boost the test scores.

And, the MVA had it.

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

I agree that some kids could use it. However it is no where near the number of kids that parents think. Also, if kid is really that smart they will take off later. Been there.

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

I agree that some kids could use it. However it is no where near the number of kids that parents think. Also, if kid is really that smart they will take off later. Been there.

My kid is on this track and doing well later on. Any kids who had over a certain map were offered it. Maybe 240 or 250. I forget. It’s more kids than you think. Some declined. Both middle schools we were at offered it. Not W schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP - I mean name a low income school without a magnet program or special programs that offers Algebra 1 for 6th grade

They have been named before. They are down county. Why don't you believe it happens? Its the lottery school that do it to get the kids to come to their schools to boost the test scores.

In MCPS it's incredibly important to distinguish between "continuing on a track once already joined", which is supported everywhere, vs "skipping a grade level in math" which is only supported in WPES/MS.

If you somehow found a way to break into a higher level math due to a generous principal, no MCPS school will kick you off that track later (unless you are failing). Getting into the higher level track is the hard part (outside WPES/MSwho will up kids from Math 5/6 in 5th to Algebra in 6th).

Even the very acceleration/skip friendly WPES has been known to force extremely advanced ES kids who transfer from out of state to repeat on-level math from previous year/school.

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Anonymous wrote:Those whose kids were bussed from MS to HS for the Algebra 2, typically when are these classes held? How did the transportation work? Do you have to drop off your kid at the MS or HS where it is offered? And from there a bus will pick up and drop them back at their MS? During the commute what did your kid miss out on? How do they decide which school your kid will go to for the class?

Typically HS first period as HS starts earlier than MS.

So much work to be able to brag about your kid being extra advanced in math

It’s not bragging, it’s meeting your child’s needs. Some schools offer Algebra 2.

I agree that some kids could use it. However it is no where near the number of kids that parents think. Also, if kid is really that smart they will take off later. Been there.

My kid is on this track and doing well later on. Any kids who had over a certain map were offered it. Maybe 240 or 250. I forget. It’s more kids than you think. Some declined. Both middle schools we were at offered it. Not W schools.

Did they need to take Alg 2 at the high school in the morning during 8th grade?