Student ID Lanyard

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Anonymous wrote:There's no rigor behind it. They don't scan or check every kid individually. They just rely on admin and security to eyeball the kids as they come in. As you can imagine, there is enough admin and security to do this thoroughly for all kids so some kids can and do get by the so-called ID badge entry requirement.

Richard Montgomery's student newspaper quoted a student who pointed out how easy it was to bypass the ID requirement and still get into the school: https://thermtide.com/18687/news/rm-ramps-up-hallway-security-measures/

Meanwhile, other students think the cards could be a good thing but are not used properly. “I think [the ID cards] would help. However, I do think security does a bad job of checking them. Today I walked into school without showing my ID card because there was no security guard there,” sophomore Coby Ritter said. “If the ID cards implemented it right it will go well but that takes effort.”

MCPS isn't a jail.

How does that response address the fact that the solution has Swiss cheese-sized holes in it? And if you don't actually intend for the solution to be resourced seriously and with fidelity, why implement it? People aren't stupid.

As a teacher, if I see a student doing something dangerous and I don't know the student's name, a readily seen student ID card helps teachers report the incident. If you want to close Swiss-cheese holes in the MCPS student-ID practice, you will find that difficult. The schools aren't detention centers.

And that’s fine. The student ID badge system doesn’t have to be 100% airtight to be valuable.

The issue is that MCPS and school leaders present this student ID badge as if it were to be implemented with tight fidelity to assuage community concerns about safety. MCPS should manage expectations around it and be honest instead of pretending that the ID badge requirement will be something it’s not.

Policy without meaningful enforcement has long been what ails MCPS.

You're are the one saying that. You're the one trying to find faults in anything and everything

So the student at RM who said enforcement was lax and not good is also trying to find fault in anything? Your head is in the sand.

Why are you making this into a molehill. No one’s head is buried except maybe yours. It’s one random student who was probably asked and they gave their observation. Were they there for every single minute of every day to ensure this “gap?” Please. If after they implement this across the board and schools are not in compliance it most likely will be addressed.

And you have this confidence that MCPS will quickly and effectively address these gaps, that weren’t addressed in the pilot, once it’s rolled out systemwide because…?

And how do you know they were not addressed after that? That's the purpose of the "pilot" stage.
You just like to complain and find faults.

If it was addressed and that gap was closed in the pilot stage, then that should have been disclosed in its announcement about the systemwide rollout. A smart organization that understood how to do strategic planning and communication would have done that. But MCPS didn’t.

Why are you so confident about me and what I like to do and my motivations? Don’t you think you’re investing a lot of energy in making up personal attacks on a forum of anonymous posters? I don’t know you and you don’t know me, so leave the personal attacks and accusations out of this.

LOL.
You think they have to disclose everything to the general public?
You're definitely a troll

Yes, our public school system, which is a public institution funded by the public’s tax paying dollars, has an obligation to explain its decision making process and communicate openly and transparently.

Is the concept of public schools new to you?

A systemwide policy change, based on learnings from a pilot, is precisely the kind of thing that should be discussed openly through the BOE and other community communications.

LOL. In what world are you living?
No public institution, no government agency has to disclose everything to you, even as a taxpayer. And that is even more true when it comes to security.
Get a life and stop trolling this forum.

You can’t read. I never made the claim that “everything” has to be disclosed to the public. That was a straw man introduced by the PP.

But the results of a pilot that are now leading to a systemwide policy change absolutely can and should be communicated to the public.

I suggest you gain some reading comprehension and find something better to do than defend MCPS’s ineptitude on your free time. I don’t think Dr. Taylor pays you for this.

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Anonymous wrote:There's no rigor behind it. They don't scan or check every kid individually. They just rely on admin and security to eyeball the kids as they come in. As you can imagine, there is enough admin and security to do this thoroughly for all kids so some kids can and do get by the so-called ID badge entry requirement.

Richard Montgomery's student newspaper quoted a student who pointed out how easy it was to bypass the ID requirement and still get into the school: https://thermtide.com/18687/news/rm-ramps-up-hallway-security-measures/

Meanwhile, other students think the cards could be a good thing but are not used properly. “I think [the ID cards] would help. However, I do think security does a bad job of checking them. Today I walked into school without showing my ID card because there was no security guard there,” sophomore Coby Ritter said. “If the ID cards implemented it right it will go well but that takes effort.”

MCPS isn't a jail.

How does that response address the fact that the solution has Swiss cheese-sized holes in it? And if you don't actually intend for the solution to be resourced seriously and with fidelity, why implement it? People aren't stupid.

As a teacher, if I see a student doing something dangerous and I don't know the student's name, a readily seen student ID card helps teachers report the incident. If you want to close Swiss-cheese holes in the MCPS student-ID practice, you will find that difficult. The schools aren't detention centers.

And that’s fine. The student ID badge system doesn’t have to be 100% airtight to be valuable.

The issue is that MCPS and school leaders present this student ID badge as if it were to be implemented with tight fidelity to assuage community concerns about safety. MCPS should manage expectations around it and be honest instead of pretending that the ID badge requirement will be something it’s not.

Policy without meaningful enforcement has long been what ails MCPS.

You're are the one saying that. You're the one trying to find faults in anything and everything

So the student at RM who said enforcement was lax and not good is also trying to find fault in anything? Your head is in the sand.

Why are you making this into a molehill. No one’s head is buried except maybe yours. It’s one random student who was probably asked and they gave their observation. Were they there for every single minute of every day to ensure this “gap?” Please. If after they implement this across the board and schools are not in compliance it most likely will be addressed.

And you have this confidence that MCPS will quickly and effectively address these gaps, that weren’t addressed in the pilot, once it’s rolled out systemwide because…?

And how do you know they were not addressed after that? That's the purpose of the "pilot" stage.
You just like to complain and find faults.

If it was addressed and that gap was closed in the pilot stage, then that should have been disclosed in its announcement about the systemwide rollout. A smart organization that understood how to do strategic planning and communication would have done that. But MCPS didn’t.

Why are you so confident about me and what I like to do and my motivations? Don’t you think you’re investing a lot of energy in making up personal attacks on a forum of anonymous posters? I don’t know you and you don’t know me, so leave the personal attacks and accusations out of this.

LOL.
You think they have to disclose everything to the general public?
You're definitely a troll

Yes, our public school system, which is a public institution funded by the public’s tax paying dollars, has an obligation to explain its decision making process and communicate openly and transparently.

Is the concept of public schools new to you?

A systemwide policy change, based on learnings from a pilot, is precisely the kind of thing that should be discussed openly through the BOE and other community communications.

LOL. In what world are you living?
No public institution, no government agency has to disclose everything to you, even as a taxpayer. And that is even more true when it comes to security.
Get a life and stop trolling this forum.

You can’t read. I never made the claim that “everything” has to be disclosed to the public. That was a straw man introduced by the PP.

But the results of a pilot that are now leading to a systemwide policy change absolutely can and should be communicated to the public.

I suggest you gain some reading comprehension and find something better to do than defend MCPS’s ineptitude on your free time. I don’t think Dr. Taylor pays you for this.

LOL
You're truly dumb, aren't you?
You're the one who said MCPS should disclose HOW the gap was closed in the pilot program when someone said 'how do you know any perceived gaps were not addressed' and that they don't have to disclose everything to you'.
All you have to do is read this chain of posts to see that.
But if you're that worry, move your damn kids to private school already.
Bye

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Anonymous wrote:There's no rigor behind it. They don't scan or check every kid individually. They just rely on admin and security to eyeball the kids as they come in. As you can imagine, there is enough admin and security to do this thoroughly for all kids so some kids can and do get by the so-called ID badge entry requirement.

Richard Montgomery's student newspaper quoted a student who pointed out how easy it was to bypass the ID requirement and still get into the school: https://thermtide.com/18687/news/rm-ramps-up-hallway-security-measures/

Meanwhile, other students think the cards could be a good thing but are not used properly. “I think [the ID cards] would help. However, I do think security does a bad job of checking them. Today I walked into school without showing my ID card because there was no security guard there,” sophomore Coby Ritter said. “If the ID cards implemented it right it will go well but that takes effort.”

MCPS isn't a jail.

How does that response address the fact that the solution has Swiss cheese-sized holes in it? And if you don't actually intend for the solution to be resourced seriously and with fidelity, why implement it? People aren't stupid.

As a teacher, if I see a student doing something dangerous and I don't know the student's name, a readily seen student ID card helps teachers report the incident. If you want to close Swiss-cheese holes in the MCPS student-ID practice, you will find that difficult. The schools aren't detention centers.

And that’s fine. The student ID badge system doesn’t have to be 100% airtight to be valuable.

The issue is that MCPS and school leaders present this student ID badge as if it were to be implemented with tight fidelity to assuage community concerns about safety. MCPS should manage expectations around it and be honest instead of pretending that the ID badge requirement will be something it’s not.

Policy without meaningful enforcement has long been what ails MCPS.

You're are the one saying that. You're the one trying to find faults in anything and everything

So the student at RM who said enforcement was lax and not good is also trying to find fault in anything? Your head is in the sand.

Why are you making this into a molehill. No one’s head is buried except maybe yours. It’s one random student who was probably asked and they gave their observation. Were they there for every single minute of every day to ensure this “gap?” Please. If after they implement this across the board and schools are not in compliance it most likely will be addressed.

And you have this confidence that MCPS will quickly and effectively address these gaps, that weren’t addressed in the pilot, once it’s rolled out systemwide because…?

And how do you know they were not addressed after that? That's the purpose of the "pilot" stage.
You just like to complain and find faults.

If it was addressed and that gap was closed in the pilot stage, then that should have been disclosed in its announcement about the systemwide rollout. A smart organization that understood how to do strategic planning and communication would have done that. But MCPS didn’t.

Why are you so confident about me and what I like to do and my motivations? Don’t you think you’re investing a lot of energy in making up personal attacks on a forum of anonymous posters? I don’t know you and you don’t know me, so leave the personal attacks and accusations out of this.

LOL.
You think they have to disclose everything to the general public?
You're definitely a troll

Yes, our public school system, which is a public institution funded by the public’s tax paying dollars, has an obligation to explain its decision making process and communicate openly and transparently.

Is the concept of public schools new to you?

A systemwide policy change, based on learnings from a pilot, is precisely the kind of thing that should be discussed openly through the BOE and other community communications.

LOL. In what world are you living?
No public institution, no government agency has to disclose everything to you, even as a taxpayer. And that is even more true when it comes to security.
Get a life and stop trolling this forum.

You can’t read. I never made the claim that “everything” has to be disclosed to the public. That was a straw man introduced by the PP.

But the results of a pilot that are now leading to a systemwide policy change absolutely can and should be communicated to the public.

I suggest you gain some reading comprehension and find something better to do than defend MCPS’s ineptitude on your free time. I don’t think Dr. Taylor pays you for this.

LOL
You're truly dumb, aren't you?
You're the one who said MCPS should disclose HOW the gap was closed in the pilot program when someone said 'how do you know any perceived gaps were not addressed' and that they don't have to disclose everything to you'.
All you have to do is read this chain of posts to see that.
But if you're that worry, move your damn kids to private school already.
Bye

Same to you. If you're worried about having to deal with the burdened expectations of open communication, community collaboration and transparency, quit working in public schools and go to private. Take your own damn advice, moron.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's no rigor behind it. They don't scan or check every kid individually. They just rely on admin and security to eyeball the kids as they come in. As you can imagine, there is enough admin and security to do this thoroughly for all kids so some kids can and do get by the so-called ID badge entry requirement.

Richard Montgomery's student newspaper quoted a student who pointed out how easy it was to bypass the ID requirement and still get into the school: https://thermtide.com/18687/news/rm-ramps-up-hallway-security-measures/

Meanwhile, other students think the cards could be a good thing but are not used properly. “I think [the ID cards] would help. However, I do think security does a bad job of checking them. Today I walked into school without showing my ID card because there was no security guard there,” sophomore Coby Ritter said. “If the ID cards implemented it right it will go well but that takes effort.”

MCPS isn't a jail.

How does that response address the fact that the solution has Swiss cheese-sized holes in it? And if you don't actually intend for the solution to be resourced seriously and with fidelity, why implement it? People aren't stupid.

As a teacher, if I see a student doing something dangerous and I don't know the student's name, a readily seen student ID card helps teachers report the incident. If you want to close Swiss-cheese holes in the MCPS student-ID practice, you will find that difficult. The schools aren't detention centers.

And that’s fine. The student ID badge system doesn’t have to be 100% airtight to be valuable.

The issue is that MCPS and school leaders present this student ID badge as if it were to be implemented with tight fidelity to assuage community concerns about safety. MCPS should manage expectations around it and be honest instead of pretending that the ID badge requirement will be something it’s not.

Policy without meaningful enforcement has long been what ails MCPS.

You're are the one saying that. You're the one trying to find faults in anything and everything

So the student at RM who said enforcement was lax and not good is also trying to find fault in anything? Your head is in the sand.

Why are you making this into a molehill. No one’s head is buried except maybe yours. It’s one random student who was probably asked and they gave their observation. Were they there for every single minute of every day to ensure this “gap?” Please. If after they implement this across the board and schools are not in compliance it most likely will be addressed.

And you have this confidence that MCPS will quickly and effectively address these gaps, that weren’t addressed in the pilot, once it’s rolled out systemwide because…?

And how do you know they were not addressed after that? That's the purpose of the "pilot" stage.
You just like to complain and find faults.

If it was addressed and that gap was closed in the pilot stage, then that should have been disclosed in its announcement about the systemwide rollout. A smart organization that understood how to do strategic planning and communication would have done that. But MCPS didn’t.

Why are you so confident about me and what I like to do and my motivations? Don’t you think you’re investing a lot of energy in making up personal attacks on a forum of anonymous posters? I don’t know you and you don’t know me, so leave the personal attacks and accusations out of this.

LOL.
You think they have to disclose everything to the general public?
You're definitely a troll

Yes, our public school system, which is a public institution funded by the public’s tax paying dollars, has an obligation to explain its decision making process and communicate openly and transparently.

Is the concept of public schools new to you?

A systemwide policy change, based on learnings from a pilot, is precisely the kind of thing that should be discussed openly through the BOE and other community communications.

LOL. In what world are you living?
No public institution, no government agency has to disclose everything to you, even as a taxpayer. And that is even more true when it comes to security.
Get a life and stop trolling this forum.

You can’t read. I never made the claim that “everything” has to be disclosed to the public. That was a straw man introduced by the PP.

But the results of a pilot that are now leading to a systemwide policy change absolutely can and should be communicated to the public.

I suggest you gain some reading comprehension and find something better to do than defend MCPS’s ineptitude on your free time. I don’t think Dr. Taylor pays you for this.

LOL
You're truly dumb, aren't you?
You're the one who said MCPS should disclose HOW the gap was closed in the pilot program when someone said 'how do you know any perceived gaps were not addressed' and that they don't have to disclose everything to you'.
All you have to do is read this chain of posts to see that.
But if you're that worry, move your damn kids to private school already.
Bye

lol. 😂 shhh you might offend the delicate daisy who thinks schools should report everything back to them no matter what.


That’s what private school is for sweetie.

[Anonymous]

What are you people so proud of living in a dictatorship?

Move to Russia if you want to be a servant of the government instead of the government serving the people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are you people so proud of living in a dictatorship?

Move to Russia if you want to be a servant of the government instead of the government serving the people.

Well that escalated quickly.

Didn’t realize a new policy, that hasn't been actually enacted yet (because they obviously have to finalize and then report on it) requiring students to wear a school ID while in the building was considered to be fascist. 🙄

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Does anybody know when this will be communicated to all of the schools? Sherwood hasn’t heard anything yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anybody know when this will be communicated to all of the schools? Sherwood hasn’t heard anything yet.

Apparently expecting to be communicated about these things is unreasonable and should only be expected if you work for private school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anybody know when this will be communicated to all of the schools? Sherwood hasn’t heard anything yet.

I think they plan is to implement by November, so maybe not all schools are starting on day 1.

[Anonymous]

My kids schools implemented this in previous years but there is zero enforcement. I got them each a lanyard but they wouldn’t use it because they said they’d be the only one. Happy to have this change, but I’m skeptical.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody know when this will be communicated to all of the schools? Sherwood hasn’t heard anything yet.

I think they plan is to implement by November, so maybe not all schools are starting on day 1.

And for schools that piloted last year - should students assume it is continuing again this year? No communication, yet. Did we think a new Super would get us more timely communications overnight??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anybody know when this will be communicated to all of the schools? Sherwood hasn’t heard anything yet.

I think they plan is to implement by November, so maybe not all schools are starting on day 1.

And for schools that piloted last year - should students assume it is continuing again this year? No communication, yet. Did we think a new Super would get us more timely communications overnight??

Perhaps we should wait until after the board meeting tomorrow when this is scheduled to be discussed.